Ron Paul speaks about Bob Barr:

[torchbearer]

I bank online so I would hope the LP could set up a secure system where paying members could make a secure vote. I'm not sure I would be ready to accept a general election online but I think the LP could do an online primary because who would care enough to fuck it up and I'm sure if someone tried it could be detected.

I just think the delegate process is outdated and puts to much power in the hands of very few. I mean this year there was actually debate as if Barr would win the LP nomination. I'm sure that was only a view held by a handful of party activist.

It wasn't a minority opinion. The LP is split down the middle - moderate/ goldwater type republican lite, the other half are closer to anarchist (the purest).
For years... if not since the beginning, the purest actually held the edge in votes.
This year was different.

Do you know how much a secure voting system would cost? Who would develop and implement it? We may try it next time around if its feasible.
Our budget is like $2000 a year.

 

[JMann]

It wasn't a minority opinion. The LP is split down the middle - moderate/ goldwater type republican lite, the other half are closer to anarchist (the purest).
For years... if not since the beginning, the purest actually held the edge in votes.
This year was different.

Do you know how much a secure voting system would cost? Who would develop and implement it? We may try it next time around if its feasible.
Our budget is like $2000 a year.

I understand the budget concern and money problems. I think if the LP opened up the party (as they have done by nominating Barr) more money, people and volunteers will come to the party.

I think the LP seems to want to beat people into accepting their point of view instead of listening to the 30% of the population that agrees with libertarian ideals but don't buy into the most extreme planks of the LP platform. It is a matter of whether the LP wants to be a broad tent real player or remain a philosophical party that has no desire to welcome people that agree with much but maybe not all of the party. This is the same problem the Dems and Reps have... How open to people do we want to be?

 

[torchbearer]

I understand the budget concern and money problems. I think if the LP opened up the party (as they have done by nominating Barr) more money, people and volunteers will come to the party.

I think the LP seems to want to beat people into accepting their point of view instead of listening to the 30% of the population that agrees with libertarian ideals but don't buy into the most extreme planks of the LP platform. It is a matter of whether the LP wants to be a broad tent real player or remain a philosophical party that has no desire to welcome people that agree with much but maybe not all of the party. This is the same problem the Dems and Reps have... How open to people do we want to be?

The Central Committee of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana is now majority Moderate LP.
I am the first republican to be elected to their central committee.
We are opening up to those who do want freedom regardless of if they agree with the platform 100%.
You see the shit we are taking for it.

 

[JMann]

The Central Committee of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana is now majority Moderate LP.
I am the first republican to be elected to their central committee.
We are opening up to those who do want freedom regardless of if they agree with the platform 100%.
You see the shit we are taking for it.

I think that is great... just as libertarian minded republicans have tried to get involved in the Republican party (a hard job) it would make sense for liberty minded Democrats and Republicans to get and give money to LP politics.

The LP has a unique opportunity this year and I hope they take advantage of the opportunity. The Dems have nominated an unelectable candidate and Reps have nominated a pro-war candidate.

 

[OceanMachine7]

I guess writing in Ron Paul will make him feel bettah. TONES

Yeah man, why do something that will actually further the cause of smaller government when you can do something that's pretty much useless and will just make you feel better?

It's so irrational!

 

[torchbearer]

Yeah man, why do something that will actually further the cause of smaller government when you can do something that's pretty much useless and will just make you feel better?

It's so irrational!

If Ron Paul doesn't continue his run beyond the GOP convention, why would you force him to do so by writing him in... seems disrespectful of his wishes.

 

[syborius]

You are acting like he changed his "rhetoric" a month ago to get the LP nomination. It was longer than that. Am I pandering to you people because I changed my opinion on alot of these issues about 2 years ago??? I belive he changed because obviously alot of LP members do too and i like what i have been hearing on TV.

Also, wouldn't he want to pander to the winning side? He obviously has no chance to win this year by pushing our agenda because we saw what happened to Ron Paul. I don't see any harm in any of this. He will get our message out to more Conservative and Moderate Republicans and hopefully bring them into the revolution. You do know we need those type of people to change their minds on things if we are ever going to win an election.

So go make your protest vote for Baldwin, Barr, or Write in Paul (it won't even get counted on election day) And move on!! The bickering about this is rediculous. We get it, some of you will never trust him or think Baldwin is a bible humper. Then don't vote for them!!! But if some of us are discussing them, why not just STFU and move on to the next thread instead of making a stink about how much you hate him when we already talked about it 1000000 times.

yeah, it was two months ago

 

[qh4dotcom]

He has an anemic quarter of a million dollars. Lets get this guy some campaign money.

Just sent Barr a donation and I sent the LP another donation last week.

 

[mczerone]

That should read.....

Neo-con drug warrior Barr 08

You mean:

Marijuana Policy Project Lawyer Barr 08.

He just issued a statement saying the Drug War should be ended.

What more can a man do, or will you forever keep you head in the sand, and continue believing the first thing you heard, which may have even been right at the time, despite all the current evidence to the contrary?

If Barr is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing, DONT BE A SHEEP: Don't follow the man, Bob Barr, but stand up WITH him, speaking Liberty. If he changes tune again later, it's his problem, not yours. Just Keep Spreading Liberty.

 

[mczerone]

yeah, it was two months ago

2006, when he joined the LP, was two months ago?

What are you talking about?