Ron Paul Should Move to New Hampshire for the Free State Project

[mport1]

In 2007, Ron Paul said he'd consider moving to New Hampshire and running for a statewide office if his Presidential campaign didn't go well.

Since then, he has amassed a huge following, and Dave Ridley makes a very compelling case for Ron Paul moving to New Hampshire if he doesn't win the nomination:

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Ron Paul moving for the FSP could be a tipping point for the movement and push the FSP over the edge. It would be a very effective way to work towards liberty in one state, and through his national organizations, Ron Paul could still have an effect nationally.

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, I think we need something bold like this to re-energize liberty activists. We need something substantial to rally the troops, and this is the best idea I've heard thus far.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Wouldn't that be something. Sure is a nice place to retire if one is currently bogged down. However, Ron is a big family guy and I suspect he'll stick around Texas for that reason not to mention he just recently bought a new house.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I encourage and endorse this idea.

 

[mport1]

Wouldn't that be something. Sure is a nice place to retire if one is currently bogged down. However, Ron is a big family guy and I suspect he'll stick around Texas for that reason not to mention he just recently bought a new house.

He could convince some of his family to move there. Or, he could take up a second residence in New Hampshire.

Cutting out all of the time he spends in DC and on the campaign trail, he could spend a good amount of time in both New Hampshire and Texas.

 

[cilution]

Well, judging from how things ended up, I say make Minnesota the new free state project and have him move here.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I still can't believe they chose New Hampshire. It is landlocked by liberal cesspools.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I still can't believe they chose New Hampshire. It is landlocked by liberal cesspools.

Results for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary:

NH 23% (And before anybody wheezes about that percentage, keep in mind everybody, except Bachmann, was still in the race at that time. Ron's second place NH finish was his best in 2012)
ME 36%
VT 25%

GA 6%
SC 13%
FL 7%
AL 5%

"Liberal" and "conservative" hardly mean anything anymore.

The Deep South states are more closely wedded to the DC tit and police state than many "liberal" states.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I still can't believe they chose New Hampshire. It is landlocked by liberal cesspools.

Yeah, but those same liberals cross the border to buy appliances w/o sales taxes and cheap booze by the gallons.

Also, for all the people here that love liberty and don't think the national GOP restoration program suits them, there's plenty of random activism going on in FSP-land of all sorts. Especially goes for anarchists that don't have any strong base of support where they are presently. Of course, NH republicans are miles more toward libertarianism than on the national scale because of the FSP and a strong liberty base so those that I'm referring this too might just change their minds about being active in the GOP once in NH.

However, I think there's mostly just a repugnance over the term republican currently. It's just a political party not a cult.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I still can't believe they chose New Hampshire. It is landlocked by liberal cesspools.

If you haven't noticed, the entire country is a statist cesspool. Might as well be in the freest state, no? Also, New Hampshire isn't landlocked. They border the freakin' ocean.

PS: If you're really worried, you should probably move out of Georgia, considering all the North Easterners move to where it's warm...namely in your neck of the woods. They don't call Florida second New York for no reason..., not that New Yorkers are any worse than the FLGOP filth.

 

[angelatc]

Wouldn't that be something. Sure is a nice place to retire if one is currently bogged down. However, Ron is a big family guy and I suspect he'll stick around Texas for that reason not to mention he just recently bought a new house.

Old guys tend to move away from the snow.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Results for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary:

NH 23%
ME 36%
VT 25%

GA 6%
SC 13%
FL 7%
AL 5%

"Liberal" and "conservative" hardly mean anything anymore.

The Deep South states are more closely wedded to the DC tit and police state than many "liberal" states.

It's been like that since Reconstruction, erm, Occupation. All the 'southerners' are just in denial. I think I have some authority on this, considering...well..native Floridian and all.

 

[mport1]

Well, judging from how things ended up, I say make Minnesota the new free state project and have him move here.

I still can't believe they chose New Hampshire. It is landlocked by liberal cesspools.

Well, the FSP is already well established and showing progress in New Hampshire despite having just 1/20th of the desired number of activists. They already have the infrastructure set up for success, and I think it is too late at this point to change states and that that doing so would only dilute the activism.

Plus, there are a number of great things about New Hampshire which is why it overwhelmingly won the vote for the state to choose. See the 101 Reasons to Move to New Hampshire.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Results for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary:

NH 23%
ME 36%
VT 25%

GA 6%
SC 13%
FL 7%
AL 5%

"Liberal" and "conservative" hardly mean anything anymore.

The Deep South states are more closely wedded to the DC tit and police state than many "liberal" states.

In terms of ME and VT, that is likely due to low turnout. I am mostly concered about MA and NY.

I would have preferred a place like Montana. Its weather isn't any worse than New Hampshire either.

 

[fr33]

I prefer to live far far away from those huge east coast populations.

 

[Anti Federalist]

In terms of ME and VT, that is likely due to low turnout. I am mostly concered about MA and NY.
I would have preferred a place like Montana. Its weather isn't any worse than New Hampshire either.

As well you should be.

They are infiltrating you.

That said, Montana would have been OK. But then again, I'm weird, I like the cold and snow, so I don't consider that "worse weather".

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

If you haven't noticed, the entire country is a statist cesspool. Might as well be in the freest state, no? Also, New Hampshire isn't landlocked. They border the freakin' ocean.

PS: If you're really worried, you should probably move out of Georgia, considering all the North Easterners move to where it's warm...namely in your neck of the woods. They don't call Florida second New York for no reason..., not that New Yorkers are any worse than the FLGOP filth.

I meant to say border locked.

Georgia isn't the best state but I cannot just get up and move. Where I live it is pretty rural so its not too bad. And that is another disadvantage with New England, high population density.

Those northern states like Wyoming and Montana would be the best choices for the FSP, imo.

New Hampshire is currently the freest state. The question is how long that will hold up.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

In terms of ME and VT, that is likely due to low turnout. I am mostly concered about MA and NY.

I would have preferred a place like Montana. Its weather isn't any worse than New Hampshire either.

You do know most emigrants from NY move to places like Texas and Florida, and not New Hampshire...right? The cold contrary to most people is actually a great thing because it averts many statists since so many people care for relatively superfluous things like...warm weather, palm trees, and laying on the beach at Christmas. Guess what sort of folks typically move to places like VT and NH? The people who do so for political reasons (e.g. hippie types move to VT, and libertarian types to NH) for the most part.

Also, again, I presume you live in GA... Here are some numbers for you:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/migration/

Use 2010, or any of the years for that matter. Check it:

NY to New Hampshire - 2400
NY to Georgia - 12000
NY to FL - 55000
NY to MA - 20000

Etc. etc.

It helps to actually know what you are talking about, before you open your mouth. Just sayin'.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Georgia isn't the best state but I cannot just get up and move. Where I live it is pretty rural so its not too bad. And that is another disadvantage with New England, high population density.

NH - ME and VT all have lower population densities than does GA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density

Not trying to pick on you here, but many people have misconceptions of all of New England as just NYC north, crime infested, overpopulated, polluted, liberal shitholes.

At least as far as the Northern New England states are concerned, nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I prefer to live far far away from those huge east coast populations.

Well, they prefer to live near you.

NY to TX - 16,000
MA to TX - 7,000
PA to TX - 7,000
CA to TX - 70,000

NY to NH - 2,400
MA to NH - 13,000
PA to NH - 674
CA to NH - 1,700

(Most people in VT and ME stick to themselves...so little population so little density...lots of wilderness and COLD/Mountains, etc.)

http://www.census.gov/hhes/migration/

Again, it should be noted, most of the North East, at least NH, VT, and ME, has very little population and tons and tons of wilderness.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

You do know most emigrants from NY move to places like Texas and Florida, and not New Hampshire...right? The cold contrary to most people is actually a great thing because it averts many statists since so many people care for relatively superfluous things like...warm weather, palm trees, and laying on the beach at Christmas. Guess what sort of folks typically move to places like VT and NH? The people who do so for political reasons (e.g. hippie types move to VT, and libertarian types to NH) for the most part.

Also, again, I presume you live in GA... Here are some numbers for you:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/migration/

Use 2010, or any of the years for that matter. Check it:

NY to New Hampshire - 2400
NY to Georgia - 12000
NY to FL - 55000
NY to MA - 20000

Etc. etc.

It helps to actually know what you are talking about, before you open your mouth. Just sayin'.

Well,

In GA that would be 1 person for every 817 people.
In NH that would be 1 person for every 549 people.