Ron Paul says Trump doesn't understand how the rigging works.

[jmdrake]

"I think Donald Trump is off base when he says it's rigged. There's a lot of rigging going on but I don't think he understands how it works."

The entire video is good, but the part that gave rise to this thread is here: https://youtu.be/li0CPcRH4vk?t=2m

Ron Paul confirms what I and others have been saying. Trump absolutely could have competed in and won Colorado with a ground game. Ron Paul won delegates where he lost the popular vote and the establishment was against him because he and his team read and understood the rules and worked them to his advantage. And yet Trump, with a ton of his own money and the popular vote behind him, couldn't work a ground game and just chose to skip the state?

 

[Mike4Freedom]

That was a big screw up for his campaign. If Rand would be in Trumps position right now and lost Colorado in the same fashion, this forum would be destroying him right now. They would be saying that he a gatekeeper for the establishment. He was too incompetent to have a team ready down there to get delegates. He does not want to win, etc.

Trump does it, they are out to get him! Do you ever think that maybe he does not really want to win this thing? Maybe he just wants to come close so it looks like he tried? If someone else gets it at the convention he can save face. Do you think that could be going on?

 

[Ronin Truth]

Perhaps "The Donald" could put you on an advisory consultant retainer for his POTUS campaign, Ron.

 

[jmdrake]

That was a big screw up for his campaign. If Rand would be in Trumps position right now and lost Colorado in the same fashion, this forum would be destroying him right now. They would be saying that he a gatekeeper for the establishment. He was too incompetent to have a team ready down there to get delegates. He does not want to win, etc.

Trump does it, they are out to get him! Do you ever think that maybe he does not really want to win this thing? Maybe he just wants to come close so it looks like he tried? If someone else gets it at the convention he can save face. Do you think that could be going on?

Except Rand wouldn't have lost Colorado "in the same fashion" as Donald Trump lost Colorado because Rand would have actually competed in Colorado! That's the point that you are missing even though Ron Paul himself said it. The deck was stacked against Paul in 2012, yet he won delegates in states where he lost the popular vote because he read the rules and understood how to work them. If Rand skipped out on Colorado like Donald Trump did then yes, this forum would have been in an uproar over how stupid Rand was.

 

[William Tell]

Trump is as always full of crap.

 

[timosman]

He can't go to a Pizza Ranch. He can't just walk in. That is just not in his arena

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...wa-Caucus-Presents-Trump-s-Next-Big-Challenge

 

[Mike4Freedom]

Except Rand wouldn't have lost Colorado "in the same fashion" as Donald Trump lost Colorado because Rand would have actually competed in Colorado! That's the point that you are missing even though Ron Paul himself said it. The deck was stacked against Paul in 2012, yet he won delegates in states where he lost the popular vote because he read the rules and understood how to work them. If Rand skipped out on Colorado like Donald Trump did then yes, this forum would have been in an uproar over how stupid Rand was.

I agree. I was just pointing out all the pro Trump people here have double standards about things.

 

[erowe1]

That was a big screw up for his campaign. If Rand would be in Trumps position right now and lost Colorado in the same fashion, this forum would be destroying him right now. They would be saying that he a gatekeeper for the establishment. He was too incompetent to have a team ready down there to get delegates. He does not want to win, etc.

Trump does it, they are out to get him! Do you ever think that maybe he does not really want to win this thing? Maybe he just wants to come close so it looks like he tried? If someone else gets it at the convention he can save face. Do you think that could be going on?

Well put. This is incontrovertibly the case.

 

[jmdrake]

I agree. I was just pointing out all the pro Trump people here have double standards about things.

Oh. My bad. :o I actually misread what you wrote.

 

[Smitty]

Ron Paul's delegate strategy was nothing but a way to demonstrate how rigged the system is.

Both Ron Paul and Doug Wead explained it numerous times on TV, but it took the Colorado Caucus for it to really sink in.

Thanks!, Colorado.

 

[erowe1]

Ron Paul's delegate strategy was nothing but a way to demonstrate how rigged the system is.

Rigged in the favor of anti-establishment candidates?

 

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul's delegate strategy was nothing but a way to demonstrate how rigged the system is.

Quote of Ron Paul actually saying that? Because he said the opposite in the video I posted in the OP.

Rigged in the favor of anti-establishment candidates?

^This.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Except Rand wouldn't have lost Colorado "in the same fashion" as Donald Trump lost Colorado because Rand would have actually competed in Colorado! That's the point that you are missing even though Ron Paul himself said it. The deck was stacked against Paul in 2012, yet he won delegates in states where he lost the popular vote because he read the rules and understood how to work them. If Rand skipped out on Colorado like Donald Trump did then yes, this forum would have been in an uproar over how stupid Rand was.

Uh, because Rand lost the first contest, right out of the gate?

 

[Smitty]

Quote of Ron Paul actually saying that? Because he said the opposite in the video I posted in the OP.



^This.

There's a lot of rigging going on but I don't think he understands how the rigging works"

--Ron Paul

 

[erowe1]

There's a lot of rigging going on but I don't think he understands how the rigging works"

--Ron Paul

But weren't you saying before that you disagree and think that Trump does understand, and that Colorado really was rigged against him?

 

[Smitty]

But weren't you saying before that you disagree and think that Trump does understand, and that Colorado really was rigged against him?

No.

You must have me confused with somebody else.

 

[erowe1]

No.

You must have me confused with somebody else.

In post 10, you said:

it took the Colorado Caucus for it to really sink in.

Thanks!, Colorado.

In what way do you mean this, if you don't mean that you agree with what Trump supporters are complaining about with regard to Colorado? If you're not talking about it sinking in with them, then who are you talking about? Is there some other story about election rigging in Colorado that is sinking in with some other group?

 

[bunklocoempire]

That was a big screw up for his campaign. If Rand would be in Trumps position right now and lost Colorado in the same fashion, this forum would be destroying him right now. They would be saying that he a gatekeeper for the establishment. He was too incompetent to have a team ready down there to get delegates. He does not want to win, etc.

Trump does it, they are out to get him! Do you ever think that maybe he does not really want to win this thing? Maybe he just wants to come close so it looks like he tried? If someone else gets it at the convention he can save face. Do you think that could be going on?

Run interference against Rand, get a chip to use down the road. It's how I would expect to operate in the slimy system.

Status quo works for a lot of people.

 

[RandallFan]

Rand would have lost. Dick Cheney-linked, Rubio & Cruz delegates united against the problem: Donald Trump.

There is no brilliance here. Trump has lost caucus events so it's pretty easy to get a majority of insiders at a state party against Trump.

Ron was lucky he had people in place at the right time in 2011 & 2012. They aren't all there. Ron's Iowa people got kicked out. So which states still have Ron people in control. No way Ron's people are 100% for Cruz. It's just the anti-frontrunner.

 

[Smitty]

In post 10, you said:


In what way do you mean this, if you don't mean that you agree with what Trump supporters are complaining about with regard to Colorado? If you're not talking about it sinking in with them, then who are you talking about? Is there some other story about election rigging in Colorado that is sinking in with some other group?

That's not what you claimed I said in the other post.

Go peddle your strawman somewhere else.

I don't want to talk with you, anyway.

You're strange.