Ron Paul polls 10% for 2012 GOP Nomination (highest national numbers yet)

Please tell me you aren't seriously believing that the revolution just started with the last presidential campaign?

There have been a lot of people for many, many years fighting these assholes. Our country would have bit the dust long ago, if not for these patriots.

I think he/she meant the RP revolution.
 
Please tell me you aren't seriously believing that the revolution just started with the last presidential campaign?

There have been a lot of people for many, many years fighting these assholes. Our country would have bit the dust long ago, if not for these patriots.

All hell, you wanna pull out the ruler next because that's what this is equivalent to..

I guess a better phrase would be when the revolution awakened. I know there were people out there long before 2007, but that was the first that it became known just how much liberty minded people were out there and the result thereof networked like minded people from around the country into what is resulting in 10% for Ron Paul in national polls. Without Paul running and getting the revolution jump started we'd never be where we are today. That's all I meant.
 
I think people are truly underestimating what all this means.

especially the gop;) if the gop screws it up this time. i don't think the gop gets a second chance! just my opinion!! i expect the gop to shape up or they will alienate themselves!!
 
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This is what at times seems so frightening about so many Americans - that so high a proportion would favor the likes of Romney, Palin, etc. over a Ron Paul. Sometimes it seems hopeless, but what can we do except to keep swinging?

To those who do not consider Paul I would ask: "how well have the offerings of the Demopublican and Republicrat parties worked out for you so far?" Press them on it and ask what leads them to believe that somehow this time things will be different. What have they to lose in trying something different? You can't get much worse than the "leadership" we have had foisted upon us since 1980, so why not take a chance? At worst the republic is lost. It is lost in any event if we put another insider clone into the oval office, so why not at least take the outside chance candidate - at least there is a chance, slim as it may be. Remind them of the old definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

Remember the campaign meme: "Ask youself this: are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" Perhaps we need to be using that once more - only substitute 8 15 or 30 for 4. It seems to me that we need to yank peoples' thinking into that place and out of the ideological rut into which so many appear to have become stuck. Get them away from the right/left/demo/repub thought paradigm and into one that is focused on results - on the realities of life right here, right now and how it compares with10, 20, 30, and more years ago. Ask them why things are worse now than at any time in the history of the nation. If they respond with the usual regurgitations of "corporate greed" and the sort, you need to disabuse them of those phony baloney notions and help them to see what is really going on. How does corproate greed account for the behavior of those in government, for example. Use socratic method - questions, questions, and more questions - lead them to the conclusion so they run face first into the truth under their own power.

Many such people are just ignorant and deluded - not necessarily stupid or of an evil character. Help them see the way in terms of cost/benefit.

I swear if in 2012 another insider or some inept goon like Palin is seated, I think I may implode. For pity's sake, we have to do something better or we deserve the boot that is on our necks.
 
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Ugggg! We need fliers to pass out at all future tea party rallies with the following messages:

Romneycare = Obamacare
Gingrich = Support for Nancy Pelosi on "climate change"
Palin = Support for the Bush Bailout

Forgive me, but flyers are mostly a waste of time, methinks. I am thinking that the tea party is a good conduit for educating those who want a change but are somehow not quite grasping that the SOS is not going to cut the mustard.

One on one education is best, but small group meetings - tea party events - nobody "owns" it, so why organize your own? Invite like-minded friends for a Saturday dinner and introduce them to Ron Paul if they do not know about him or think he is some sort of a kook, or what have you. Teach them of the great virtue that is the act of voting one's consciousness instead of pursuing the one they think has the chance. It is precisely THAT mentality that keeps the vermin in office.

Small social gatherings are a great way to bring people aboard. Hit people up on the golf course, over a beer, around the poker table, while out fishing, at the range, and so on. There are SO many opportunities. You don't have to get into arguments about it or go on for hours necessarily. Bring it up amongst friends and acquaintances - make it a specific point to address the issue - disseminate the information and go with the level of interest. Learn how to maintain focus on the topic. There are legitimate tangents such as that of liberty and why it is better than anything else, but don't let those take over. Know your topic so that you can respond to most any curve an objector may throw. Be gentle and friendly and respectful at all times. Make it clear in your words and demeanor that you are there to help them understand something that you feel is important and that you are not trying to force anything upon them. Force will NEVER work there, but friendly and solidly presented persuasion might. Learn to recognize the lost causes - those so married to their ideas that no amount of reason and truth will shake them loose. For every one of those, there are perhaps five who will at least listen with reasonably open minds if you approach them properly. Make it personal. Make it personable. Make it truthful. Make it genuine.

We are running out of time and out of liberty. Both could be effectively gone in the coming few years. Get out there and talk about it face to face with those you know and encourage them to do the same. Remember the six degrees of separation? It would take only six iterations to spread the world to every man woman and child in the USA - perhaps only five or even four to expose every eligible voter. We have two years. We could accomplish an incredible amount in that time if we each held even only one dinner with six guests. How about a Labor Day barbeque? Short notive now, I know, but would it be worth a try? Come on over for good food, drink, and company and a short talk about Ron Paul and why it is so important that we put him in the white house in '12. Doesn't matter if your guests are reobubs or demos or commies. Well, OK, may not the commies. If we don't try we are guaranteed nothing. If we do, the worst that happens is nothing. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

OK, I'm off the soap box. Sorry.
 
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