Ron Paul - Our Constitution...has failed.

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The Anti Federalists and yes, even the anarchists, are right, and Ron Paul agrees.

The Constitution, as written, is a failure.

It did not prevent, even with the written absolute prohibitions of the Bill of Rights, tyranny and bankruptcy.

Secession, now!


Congressman Ron Paul: ‘America Is Broke’

http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/ron-paul-america-is-broke.html

The US “cannot go on much longer” if it continues to spend and consume in the existing way, according to Ron Paul, who made his farewell speech to the Congress earlier on Wednesday, as the 77-year-old will be retiring at the close of this term.

His address wasn’t a summary of his long political career. On the contrary, the congressman from Texas, who is known for his critical views of American policies, this time exceeded all experts’ expectations, by the direct criticism of the existing situation in the United States, as he posed several key questions, which have been in the air for a long time.

In his sharp 52-minute speech Paul lambasted American government, dollar crisis, fiat money, federal debt and borrowing, the power of the Federal Reserve system, politicians and special interests by a limited circle of people, who are behind the country’s authorities.

“The government has grown exponentially, taxes remain excessive as a prolific increase of incomprehensible regulations continues. Wars are constant and pursued without a congressional declaration. Deficits rise to the sky, poverty is ramping and dependency on the federal government is now worse than any time in our history. All this with minimal concerns for the deficits and unfunded liabilities, that common sense tells us: it cannot go on much longer,” said the congressman.

Paul also criticized America for being the world’s biggest consumer. In his opinion, it has already damaged the country.

“The spending continues, as the economy weakens and the downward spiral continues. As the government continues fiddling around, our liberties and our wealth burn in the flames of a foreign policy, that makes us less safe. The major stumbling block to real change in Washington is the total resistance to admitting that the country is broke,” pointed out the republican.

“We can expect the continuous and dangerous march to a corporatism and even fascism with even more loss of our liberties. Prosperity for our large middle class though will become an abstract dream,” he also added.

The congressman said that during his years of being on the political scene, from 1976 to 2012, the government had “accomplished very little.” It is an open secret, that the American foreign debt is the biggest in the world. The country owes more than $16 billion in total and that enormous figure is constantly growing. The enduring politician had a clear word on that too.

“We have ended up with the system, that doesn’t produce enough even to finance the debt and no fundamental understanding of why a free society is crucial to reversing these trends. If this is not recognized, recovery will linger for a long time. Bigger government, more spending, more debt, more poverty for the middle class and in a more intense scramble by the elite special interests will continue,” added the congressman.

The retiring politician also admitted the failure of the country’s chief law:

“Our Constitution, which was intended to limit government power and abuse, has failed."

"The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified,” Paul said.

The congressman left the podium, offering an answer to all of these problems, saying that people should choose liberty and limit government, and seek change within themselves.

“We need an intellectual awakening. Without an intellectual awakening the turning point will be driven by economic law. A dollar crisis will bring the current under-control system to its knees,” concluded Paul.

Reprinted with permission
 
Yesterday morning on CSPAN, Ron Paul said that the idea of succession is valid but nullification was the right answer.
 
Yesterday morning on CSPAN, Ron Paul said that the idea of succession is valid but nullification was the right answer.

Damn, wish I could watch videos where I am, I had heard that, wished I could see it.

At any rate, yes, the two go hand in hand.

Secession would be the logical next step if nullification failed.

Which I would have to say it would, I have no illusions that Mordor on the Potomac would honor the 10th any more than it would the other nine.
 
Damn, wish I could watch videos where I am, I had heard that, wished I could see it.

At any rate, yes, the two go hand in hand.

Secession would be the logical next step if nullification failed.

Which I would have to say it would, I have no illusions that Mordor on the Potomac would honor the 10th any more than it would the other nine.

We are going to find out here in Colorado. Industrial hemp and marijuana will be legal to grow in 2013. We'll let everyone know if nullification fails.
 
"The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified,” Paul said.

Virtue and morality has been gradually replaced with envy and narcissism.
 
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We are going to find out here in Colorado. Industrial hemp and marijuana will be legal to grow in 2013. We'll let everyone know if nullification fails.

You're in CO?

I didn't know that.

You haven't posted under the screename JT Coyote on other forums, have you?

I wish Kenny (speciallyblend) would check in.

He must be ecstatic...:D
 
You're in CO?

I didn't know that.

You haven't posted under the screename JT Coyote on other forums, have you?

I wish Kenny (speciallyblend) would check in.

He must be ecstatic...:D
No, I always use Travlyr. I bet Kenny is quite ecstatic. A lot of us are. It is going to get interesting here.
 
No, I always use Travlyr. I bet Kenny is quite ecstatic. A lot of us are. It is going to get interesting here.

Gotcha, I knew a fellow that had a similar writing style and view that went by that name who lived in CO.

You'll have a whole lot of people pulling for you, myself included.

Get seated on federal grand juries and refuse to indict. ;)
 
Unfortunately you can't nullify the income tax.

If any state wants freedom, secession is the only way apart from electing a government that will restore liberty and constitutionality.
 
Don't forget that he said the reason for the failure of the Constitution was that it is only fit to govern a virtuous and moral people, and that as liberty and responsibility take root, it will continue to be fit for such a virtuous and moral people. As also said the people who wrote it in the first place. He also said that the essence of this morality is to denigrate aggression, and do not give the State authority to aggress.

I've seen the major media take all kinds of rorschach blots out of Paul's farewell speech, and this is been one of the heaviest hit, because they hope it will demoralize the Pauler movement.

They forget that we look deeper than one sentence or a headline.
 
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Don't forget that he said the reason for the failure of the Constitution was that it is only fit to govern a virtuous and moral people, and that as liberty and responsibility take root, it will continue to be fit for such a virtuous and moral people. As also said the people who wrote it in the first place. He also said that the essence of this morality is to denigrate aggression, and do not give the State authority to aggress.

I've seen the major media take all kinds of rorschach blots out of Paul's farewell speech, and this is been one of the heaviest hit, because they hope it will demoralize the Pauler movement.

They forget that we look deeper than one sentence or a headline.

Taking cues from Ron, we should replace "virtuous and moral people" with "those who reject the initiation of all aggression," or at the very least define virtuous and moral as such whenever we use that phrase.
 
Don't forget that he said the reason for the failure of the Constitution was that it is only fit to govern a virtuous and moral people, and that as liberty and responsibility take root, it will continue to be fit for such a virtuous and moral people. As also said the people who wrote it in the first place. He also said that the essence of this morality is to denigrate aggression, and do not give the State authority to aggress.

I've seen the major media take all kinds of rorschach blots out of Paul's farewell speech, and this is been one of the heaviest hit, because they hope it will demoralize the Pauler movement.

They forget that we look deeper than one sentence or a headline.

A valid observation.

But I could make the case that one of the reasons for the failure was the lack of accounting for the Hobbesian nature of man and his lust for power.

That people are not usually given to virtue and morality.

A serious question: what can be done, beyond the usual catch all response of education, what can be done to instill virtue and empathy and morality as we are addressing it here?

That is, morality as we are defining it, not as being free from vices or perversions, but having empathy for and not wanting to murder and torture our fellow man.

How do we inculcate that into a people that boo the "Golden Rule" and eat pizza and cheer as phosphorus bombs incinerate thousands of people?

(Shock and Awe night, Baghdad, 2003)
 
Taking cues from Ron, we should replace "virtuous and moral people" with "those who reject the initiation of all aggression," or at the very least define virtuous and moral as such whenever we use that phrase.

Well, that is in fact the very essence of morality. The Golden Rule. It's clear though that Americans by and large do not know what moral or virtue are anymore.
 
A valid observation.

But I could make the case that one of the reasons for the failure was the lack of accounting for the Hobbesian nature of man and his lust for power.

That people are not usually given to virtue and morality.

A serious question: what can be done, beyond the usual catch all response of education, what can be done to instill virtue and empathy and morality as we are addressing it here?

That is, morality as we are defining it, not as being free from vices or perversions, but having empathy for and not wanting to murder and torture our fellow man.

How do we inculcate that into a people that boo the "Golden Rule" and eat pizza and cheer as phosphorus bombs incinerate thousands of people?

(Shock and Awe night, Baghdad, 2003)

We don't. We have to live it ourselves, pass it along to our children, and hope others will follow our example.
 
A valid observation.

But I could make the case that one of the reasons for the failure was the lack of accounting for the Hobbesian nature of man and his lust for power.

That people are not usually given to virtue and morality.

A serious question: what can be done, beyond the usual catch all response of education, what can be done to instill virtue and empathy and morality as we are addressing it here?

That is, morality as we are defining it, not as being free from vices or perversions, but having empathy for and not wanting to murder and torture our fellow man.

How do we inculcate that into a people that boo the "Golden Rule" and eat pizza and cheer as phosphorus bombs incinerate thousands of people?

(Shock and Awe night, Baghdad, 2003)

Well, for one, you're never going to eliminate the wanton delusions of those perched at the top of society. They are clearly situated there for a reason. With all that said, the common people are slowly becoming infected with the same strain of narcissism and immorality that their feckless leaders have exhibited for centuries. It's a stunning phenomenon which can be traced specifically to the breakdown of the nuclear family unit, thanks in large part to the implementation of the Prussian School of Indoctrination. A strong government cannot exist without a diminished family unit.
 
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A valid observation.

But I could make the case that one of the reasons for the failure was the lack of accounting for the Hobbesian nature of man and his lust for power.

That people are not usually given to virtue and morality.

A serious question: what can be done, beyond the usual catch all response of education, what can be done to instill virtue and empathy and morality as we are addressing it here?

That is, morality as we are defining it, not as being free from vices or perversions, but having empathy for and not wanting to murder and torture our fellow man.

How do we inculcate that into a people that boo the "Golden Rule" and eat pizza and cheer as phosphorus bombs incinerate thousands of people?

(Shock and Awe night, Baghdad, 2003)

Inculcate and plant as deeply and broadly as possible, that 'it is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression. You, me, police, military or civil authorities. The Golden Rule is the essence of all morality. America doesn't function unless we are moral.' Love your neighbor as yourself.

Yes, the reason America is collapsing, is because Ye Only True (tm) Christian Church booed Jesus's own Golden Rule in South Carolina. That's actually a true statement. All the Christians who think they are His, need to be connected to that moment and decide if they stand with the Pharisees or with God.

The fastest and surest way to restore the Constitution, is to instill voters with an understanding of morality and a desire to embrace it. Fortunately the message is pretty simple, and can be distilled into abrupt and powerful talking points.

It is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression.

That's also the essence of freedom, no?

Liberty, nonaggression, responsibility, morality, virtue, --> a Constitutional Republic.
 
Don't forget that he said the reason for the failure of the Constitution was that it is only fit to govern a virtuous and moral people, and that as liberty and responsibility take root, it will continue to be fit for such a virtuous and moral people. As also said the people who wrote it in the first place. He also said that the essence of this morality is to denigrate aggression, and do not give the State authority to aggress.

I've seen the major media take all kinds of rorschach blots out of Paul's farewell speech, and this is been one of the heaviest hit, because they hope it will demoralize the Pauler movement.

They forget that we look deeper than one sentence or a headline.

I like to think that we look deeper than the constitution too and deeper into what we are trying to do and what we could even be able to accomplish (considering the odds are so much against us).

I think we all know the constitution isn't perfect. Ron Paul himself has called it imperfect all throughout his career.
 
Inculcate and plant as deeply and broadly as possible, that 'it is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression. You, me, police, military or civil authorities. The Golden Rule is the essence of all morality. America doesn't function unless we are moral.' Love your neighbor as yourself.

Yes, the reason America is collapsing, is because Ye Only True (tm) Christian Church booed Jesus's own Golden Rule in South Carolina. That's actually a true statement. All the Christians who think they are His, need to be connected to that moment and decide if they stand with the Pharisees or with God.

The fastest and surest way to restore the Constitution, is to instill voters with an understanding of morality and a desire to embrace it. Fortunately the message is pretty simple, and can be distilled into abrupt and powerful talking points.

It is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression.

That's also the essence of freedom, no?

Liberty, nonaggression, responsibility, morality, virtue, --> a Constitutional Republic.

The Constitution authorizes taxation and other aggressions. If the goal of instilling the rejection of all initiated aggression is achieved, the Constitution will be seen as an evil document.

Other than that, I'm with you - time to hammer the philosophical arguments rather than Constitutional arguments.
 
Inculcate and plant as deeply and broadly as possible, that 'it is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression. You, me, police, military or civil authorities. The Golden Rule is the essence of all morality. America doesn't function unless we are moral.' Love your neighbor as yourself.

Yes, the reason America is collapsing, is because Ye Only True (tm) Christian Church booed Jesus's own Golden Rule in South Carolina. That's actually a true statement. All the Christians who think they are His, need to be connected to that moment and decide if they stand with the Pharisees or with God.

The fastest and surest way to restore the Constitution, is to instill voters with an understanding of morality and a desire to embrace it. Fortunately the message is pretty simple, and can be distilled into abrupt and powerful talking points.

It is wrong for anybody to initiate aggression.

That's also the essence of freedom, no?

Liberty, nonaggression, responsibility, morality, virtue, --> a Constitutional Republic.

The family is the essence of all morality. Because the family is the only legitimate source of obligation and thus the moral principles that derive from that purpose are the only things that can legitimately restrict your absolute freedom. It so happens that the "golden rule" follows from that imo. But that is only 1 moral principle. There are several others, and they are perfectly outlined in the 10 commandments imo.

I also don't agree with the principle of non-aggression, because there are non-violent assaults against our freedom as well. Unless you define those as aggression, then I would not subscribe to that principle. Adultery would be one example.
 
Here are the 10 commandments, I will bold the parts relevant to secular government:

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Freedom - God commands us not to put ourselves back into slavery, giving the government power over your life is having and serving a different god.

3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. Liberty and Freedom, do not 'bow down' or 'worship' politicians and leaders.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. Basically, honor your obligations.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. Property rights established. But you need time to fulfill other obligations as well.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. Family

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” And maybe the most relevant to our present time, such wisdom! I wonder what liberals think when they read this. Anyway this plainly says that you may not assert a right to something that belongs legitimately to others.
 
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