Ron Paul on Daily Show TONIGHT Monday 9/26

Yeah, is there a good example to show "true libertarianism"?
I thought that was a trick question, because he's running on a platform of returning the country to a constitutional republic. The most successful country in the whole world was a constitutional republic, for the first 100 - 150 years of its existence.
 
I thought it made Ron look like a blurry headed old man who wants corporations to run everything. The commercial for the segment was more exciting than the actual segment. There was nothing about the wars really, or the drug war, or things like the Patriot Act. I don't think this is going to sell anyone on his candidacy. Disappointed.

Pissing in the punchbowl, eh? Damn half-empty glasses! ;)
 
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Great - personal attacks. That really makes your case. I am not sure what "shortminded" is, but is it is a synonym for "short sighted" let me opine that Stewart is a partisan hack that led the charge for Obama in 2008. He doesn't lean libertarian, he's not a journalist, and he'll turn on us if we win the primary.

That's prescient, not "shortminded."

He continually bashes Obama, something you already claimed he never does. Stewart's job is easy, he just points out the obvious faults of the media and the government among other things and puts a nice funny spin around it. To claim he is a cheerleader for anybody is ridiculous.
 
I thought that was a trick question, because he's running on a platform of returning the country to a constitutional republic. The most successful country in the whole world was a constitutional republic, for the first 100 - 150 years of its existence.

Actually I thinjk he said this because a lot of his staff and viewers would ask this because they don't really know. Nothing but good will come from this.
 
He continually bashes Obama, something you already claimed he never does. Stewart's job is easy, he just points out the obvious faults of the media and the government among other things and puts a nice funny spin around it. To claim he is a cheerleader for anybody is ridiculous.

I don't know how to say this using words that are any smaller, so I'll go for repetition: He only berates Obama for not being liberal enough. Were you not paying attention in 2008?

When he first took over the show, I thought he was funny. I got tired of repeatedly being insulted to my face because I'm a conservative, so I quit watching him. I prefer comedians who are funny, and he isn't any more.

And I am going to bed, so you can type out a long insulting response if you find it therapeutic, but I probably won't see it. This will be old news by the time I make it back to the forums tomorrow evening.
 
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Actually I thinjk he said this because a lot of his staff and viewers would ask this because they don't really know. Nothing but good will come from this.

Oh yeah, over all I think the interview was full of win. But if you hadn't noticed, I'm not a Stewart fan. How on earth he can sit there, cracking jokes about GOP politicians while absolutely implying that the federal government is the best solution..... as we're standing here watching our friends and family lose everything as a direct result of that government....I can't stomach it.
 
I thought that was a trick question, because he's running on a platform of returning the country to a constitutional republic. The most successful country in the whole world was a constitutional republic, for the first 100 - 150 years of its existence.

It was also a country where people could own other people. Women couldn't vote...

I'll take version 2011.
 
I don't know how to say this using words that are any smaller, so I'll go for repetition: He only berates Obama for not being liberal enough. Were you not paying attention in 2008?

When he first took over the show, I thought he was funny. I got tired of repeatedly being insulted to my face because I'm a conservative, so I quit watching him. I prefer comedians who are funny, and he isn't any more.

Regardless, you can't deny the draw he has. He has the most popular video on Ron Paul Flix. http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/08/jon-stewart-scolds-media-for-ignoring-ron-paul-aug-15-2011/
 
Actually I thinjk he said this because a lot of his staff and viewers would ask this because they don't really know. Nothing but good will come from this.

I'm interested to see the entire interview. Jon is a ridiculously fair guy who has a thing for Ron. I'm sure it was good.

That said, what was shown on TV was not good for Ron. It was basically just Libertarian talking points that do nothing to change minds.
 
I don't know how to say this using words that are any smaller, so I'll go for repetition: He only berates Obama for not being liberal enough. Were you not paying attention in 2008?

When he first took over the show, I thought he was funny. I got tired of repeatedly being insulted to my face because I'm a conservative, so I quit watching him. I prefer comedians who are funny, and he isn't any more.

And I am going to bed, so you can type out a long insulting response if you find it therapeutic, but I probably won't see it. This will be old news by the time I make it back to the forums tomorrow evening.

He also goes after him for being stupid, not living up to campaign promises, saying one thing and doing the opposite, lying etc. Stewart is a bleeding heart liberal, no doubt, but he's more fair than you give him credit for.
 
Stewart is obviously biased to the left. And that bias obviously shows in his humor.

He was an Obama cheerleader at one point. I also think he is pretty disillusioned with that now.

If Ron Paul wins the primary, he's commanded the national debate. And guys like Stewart, with at least adequate critical thinking skills, will be forced to put a lot more thought into it. And of ALL the people to quickly write him off to their old partisan divides, I'd put him far from the "hopeless" category. It's just not important enough yet to him (and many) to really do the legwork and investigate the philosophy itself, which is what needs to happen if liberty is to truly become mainstream.
 
There is just one point I wish he would have made during the question about regulation and the industrial revolution where Stewart asked if the corporations should be accountable to elected regulators instead of shareholders. Paul made the point that companies colluded back then to pollute, but he should have mentioned that it is the government that allowed them to get away with it. If property rights were enforced those companies would not have gotten away with it. Other than that I thought he did well.

Agreed.

This is clearly an issue for Jon Stewart and Ron Paul should have a better answer.

These very laws that are designed to protect the consumer actually protect the businesses who are doing the harm.

Find concrete examples.

Merck and Gardasil and Perry. Apparently, Merck could not be sued, or could not be as easily sued, if the government mandated Gardasil.

Unsafe products get on the market, because the companies know that government laws protect them from lawsuits.

Identify other companies who are benefitted by these laws, and the people that are harmed.

People don't like Monsanto, Merck, ADM and others.

We can't prove exactly how HFCS got to be in everything, but we're beginning to know that it's bad for you.
BT corn, BT potatoes, BT anything. It has got to be harmful. Gardasil and other vaccines are harmful, and these companies are protected by the government.

The Class Action attorneys, the people who would be protecting the people, can't easily fight through the protections that the government has given Monsanto, Merck and ADM.

Come up with example after example of Monsanto being protected, Merck being protected, ADM being protected.

Blue Class Action Attorneys - making it easy for you to take a big chunk out of Monsanto, Merck and ADM.

This line of argumentation is not particularly helpful with Republicans, but it is small government.
 
This interview did nothing for me (at least what was shown on TV). The first segment was jokey and funny but lacked any substance whatsoever, then the 2nd segment just jumped right into some more hardcore libertarian philosophy, and JS was sorta interrupting his own questioning.

I'm a fan of the DS, but I look forward to seeing the entire interview tomorrow. I can't imagine what they showed in that 2nd segment was the best they could have grabbed out of the interview.
 
I feel so bad that I missed it! I couldn't find a proper stream anywhere and had a lot of homework to do! Ahh, I guess I'll have to wait for tomorrow.
 
Again with the personal attacks.

Aside from serving his own interests with an end-of-the-quarter ratings boost guest, Ron Paul, what has he ever said or done in the name of liberty that makes you such a blathering fan-boy? No, I don't like Jon Stewart, partly because he's Obama's court jester, but partly because he's just become so miserable, bitter, and partisan over the years. Whipping out the occasional Ron Paul interview isn't enough to make me suck his d.... (as you so eloquently phrased it), although it appears that you're ready and willing to swallow anything he puts out there.

Remember what he said about the Republicans only settling for one perfect candidate? You might want to stop and consider that, because I'm willing to bet there isn't another candidate on that stage you could stand to even say a single nice thing about, much less vote for. You're perfectly fine if Stewart bashes Christians, Republicans, rich people.....anybody except Ron Paul.

You know, I might be tempted to go double-or-nothing that you voted for Obama last time around, too.


Yup, right after November 2008 (or was it January 2009) I stopped watching Stewart and Colbert. Because for 8 years they were attacking the President, and then I was looking forward to seeing them attack Obama, and, nope. Continued to attack Republicans. Nothing to attack. Lost the Presidency, didn't have the house or senate, and they were getting attacked. That was it. Occasionally I'd watch, but I used to watch it fairly regularly.
 
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