Ron Paul just scored with the most applause yet!

Don't pay any attention to them. Most of the people you're associating yourself with are good people. I don't think Mexicans in particular are ignorant. There are ignorant people of all races in America. It's up to us to educate them on the truth and Ron Paul helped to do that tonight. I applaud him for going. We first have to understand what it means to be truly free in order to be truly free.


Of course there are ignorant people of all races. Like the idiots in this thread who don't understand the perspective of the audience, many of which have lived under Castro, or have relatives who have. The fact that they booed Dr. Paul's response doesn't make them "ignorant Mexicans." It also doesn't mean that they can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie. It also doesn't make them neo-cons. It just means that they disagree, and could probably use more information.

All I'm saying is that there are a lot of folks of Mexican heratige out here supporting Ron Paul, and to come in this forum and see people defending an "ignorant Mexicans" comment is sickening, and all sorts of disgusting.
 
I don't care what he meant.

And that's a problem.

Being blind to the meaning and substance of his statement and using the rest to attack him is unneccesary, and makes it look like YOU are the one who has a foot to remove from your mouth.
 
People should just shut up instead of sticking their foot further down their throats. I'm starting to wonder about who the hell I'm associating myself with here with all this "ignorant Mexicans" defense. Trust me... there are plenty of Mexicans who can tell the difference between the truth and a lie. We're not just a bunch of dumb brown people who don't get it. Seriously.

I am mexican also, my last name is Romero and I am more embarassed about this fact since I have read your posts that is for sure... :(
 
Of course there are ignorant people of all races. Like the idiots in this thread who don't understand the perspective of the audience, many of which have lived under Castro, or have relatives who have. The fact that they booed Dr. Paul's response doesn't make them "ignorant Mexicans." It also doesn't mean that they can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie. It also doesn't make them neo-cons. It just means that they disagree, and could probably use more information.

All I'm saying is that there are a lot of folks of Mexican heratige out here supporting Ron Paul, and to come in this forum and see people defending an "ignorant Mexicans" comment is sickening, and all sorts of disgusting.

You are correct about this. However I'd imagine 90% of the audience here is Cuban. I have spoken to many of them and there is a big divide in the community.
Some people realize that making the people of cuba live like it is 1960 is a bad thing and our policy as it is now doesn't work. They all have an undying hate of Castro, but some DO realize that if we opened trade and the people were able to get out of the 1960's era they people may just step up and overthrow on their own.
 
Of course there are ignorant people of all races. Like the idiots in this thread who don't understand the perspective of the audience, many of which have lived under Castro, or have relatives who have. The fact that they booed Dr. Paul's response doesn't make them "ignorant Mexicans." It also doesn't mean that they can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie. It also doesn't make them neo-cons. It just means that they disagree, and could probably use more information.

All I'm saying is that there are a lot of folks of Mexican heratige out here supporting Ron Paul, and to come in this forum and see people defending an "ignorant Mexicans" comment is sickening, and all sorts of disgusting.

+1
 
I don't care what he meant. He's coming off like a racist jackass. It pisses me off. It's NOT right. We are all individuals. We should be treated as such. Calling people "ignorant Mexicans" is an insult.

Agreed. There are tons of ignorant people and so no need to single out some specific group. There are also very intelligent people in all "groups" of people.
 
I'm starting to wonder about who the hell I'm associating myself with here with all this "ignorant Mexicans" defense.

Because they're willing to fight for your freedom, if you're willing to fight for theirs - which includes the freedom to hold whatever beliefs they want, even if they're stupid.

As Dr. Paul says, freedom unites us. :)
 
Me either...

MY RANKINGS OF WORST CANDIDATES:

1. Rudy
2. Romney
3. McCain (Climbing Fast)

Rudy was at the top of my list, but Huckabee passed him up. I think they're both done though. Their past is way to shady. They can't hide it forever. McCain is desperate and broke. Thompson has to be done; he can't answer a question to save his life.

Romney is Paul's only competition.
 
so is it still going on? Damn, I wish I wouldn't have missed this one. Oh well, I really think I would have thrown something through my monitor if I would have seen that little fucker McCain laughing at paul.
 
People espousing an anti-immigrant message here are out of line with Congressman Paul's positions.

Congressman Paul believes free individuals should be able to freely and safely cross national boundaries to pursue their fortunes and those of their families.

He is opposed to a border fence because it sends a message of isolation and protectionism that is contrary to the rights of free individuals.

Congressman Paul says that what separates and divides are not languages, cultures, and national boundaries, but rather the irresponsible and wasteful policies of big government that work at odds to the freedoms of individuals.


Paul is pro-immigrant, anti-illegal immigrant. He says he will physically secure the border by any means possible and he opposes amnesty. Please don't mis-represent Dr. Paul's positions.
 
As for the "ignorant Mexicans"...

The shills are playing to the ignorant Mexicans.......Paul is too honest to lie to get their vote.

The way I understood it was that the other candidates all think that "Mexicans" (the word is generic among Anglos for Spanish-speaking people anywhere in the Southwest, such as Southern California where I grew up in the 1950s, or New Mexico where I live now) are ignorant, so they can lie to them with impunity. Which they certainly do, all day every day -- just as they lie to everyone else. While Dr. Paul, as usual, just speaks the truth.

And they boo him (so I gather; I haven't seen this event yet), as the ignorant Anglos did at the debate in May -- which, ironically, was the big boost that actually got the campaign off the ground.

No need to be thin-skinned about it; there's plenty of ignorance in every racial/ancestral/cultural group. Fortunately, Dr. Paul relates to everyone as individuals first, and so can we. When Dr. Paul addressed an Arab-American group in Michigan, someone asked him if he had a special message for them. "No," he said, "just the same speech I give to everyone." That's our Ron Paul. Speak the truth and you need have no regrets.
 
Screw you. I'm proudly of Mexican heratige, and we are honest people.

You can get f***ing bent.

Sorry but coming into the country illegally (I am sure he directed this toward the illegal mexicans and the mexicans who support illegals) and demanding the rights of the legal citizens is not acceptable.
 
The way I understood it was that the other candidates all think that "Mexicans" (the word is generic among Anglos for Spanish-speaking people anywhere in the Southwest,

Your theory is flawed because most americans today aren't anglos. Most americans are a big mix of people. Euro-americans being the majority, barely.

Anglos(a germanic tribe) were a small minority in Briton just like the saxons. Welsh and celtic rooted people were the majority(as the bbc has reported recently). Those brits that came over to america were mainly welsh and celtic rooted people, not anglos. Though the anglo-germanic tribes were so fierce that their langauge did make way and take over in Briton.
 
Sorry but coming into the country illegally (I am sure he directed this toward the illegal mexicans and the mexicans who support illegals) and demanding the rights of the legal citizens is not acceptable.

Some LaRaza losers on these fourms don't seem to understand that. It's been said before that they're beyond stupid mentally and couldn't care less about America. If Ron were to boycott any debate, it should have been this Racist LaRaza debate.
 
There shouldn't be a debate in spanish to begin with. It is a debate for the "Illegal vote" Which any illegal person in the country with a drivers license can vote. I do not see any debates being conducted in German, French, Italian, Sweedish, Arabic, etc, etc. Illegal immigration isn't about race, nationality,or color. It doesn't matter if the illegal is red, yellow, black or brown. Its about the law and allowing to many people into our country with no allegience to america without time to assimialte createing a foreign country within our own. This is being done on purpose to make the NAU transitition easier.
 
There shouldn't be a debate in spanish to begin with. It is a debate for the "Illegal vote" Which any illegal person in the country with a drivers license can vote. I do not see any debates being conducted in German, French, Italian, Sweedish, Arabic, etc, etc. Illegal immigration isn't about race, nationality,or color. It doesn't matter if the illegal is red, yellow, black or brown. Its about the law and allowing to many people into our country with no allegience to america without time to assimialte createing a foreign country within our own. This is being done on purpose to make the NAU transitition easier.

It is interesting to see how twisted they make the words if nothing else. It is a plus for us there are a lot of Ron Paul supporters on their boards that are mad about the lack of coverage :D
 
The way I understood it was that the other candidates all think that "Mexicans" (the word is generic among Anglos for Spanish-speaking people anywhere in the Southwest,

Your theory is flawed because most americans today aren't anglos. Most americans are a big mix of people. Euro-americans being the majority, barely.

Anglos(a germanic tribe) were a small minority in Briton just like the saxons. Welsh and celtic rooted people were the majority(as the bbc has reported recently). Those brits that came over to america were mainly welsh and celtic rooted people, not anglos. Though the anglo-germanic tribes were so fierce that their langauge did make way and take over in Briton.

(1) I didn't pose a "theory", just said how it sounded to me.

(2) The term "Anglo" is generally used, in areas of the US where there are large Hispanic communities, to denote the English-speaking community; for instance here in New Mexico "Anglo" includes African- as well as European-Americans. In that sense most Americans are Anglos.

(3) The Germanic tribe you refer to were the Angles (not Anglos), who together with Saxons, Jutes and Danes colonized the eastern and northern 2/3 of (what became) England in the latter half of the first millennium CE, pushing the Celtic people to the west; their language eventually became dominant throughout what is now England, as well as Scotland (the lowland Scots are Anglo-Saxons, the highlanders Celts, descendants of Irish colonists from about a thousand years ago, mixed with the original Picts and other inhabitants, who've left no trace other than occasional mentions in Roman chronicles).

(4) The name of the country/place is Britain; its inhabitants are Britons, who may indeed be genetically mostly Celtic, despite having been overrun by Romans, Angles/Saxons/Jutes/Danes, and Norman French over the last 2000 years. I don't know the research on this, but do know the Germanic tribes came in great numbers over several centuries; unlike the Romans and the later Normans, they were not just conquerers but colonists looking for land due to population pressures on the Continent. I'd say the history of Great Britain (England + Scotland) is so mixed it'd be hard to define anyone there as "purely" of any particular racial ancestry (outside of Wales).

(5) Well, my paternal ancestors came here over 300 years ago, bearing a name that came to Britain with the Norman conquest in 1066, while my maternal ancestors brought a Celtic name apparently from north central England. Anyway, we're all here now.
 
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