Ron Paul: I will not vote for Trump, he can give two positions in one speech (flashback)

[enhanced_deficit]

Words of wisdom, some of us took a while to see things clearly.


Ron Paul: I will not vote for Trump

03/31/16

Ron Paul: I will not vote for Donald Trump https://t.co/6OZtrfIwim https://t.co/mmwHDhWvjj
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) March 31, 2016​

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said on Thursday he wouldn't vote for Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump.
"I was very explicit about that. I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump," he said on CNN on Thursday.

"If you can't stand any of them and you happen to be a dedicated progressive, you ought to make your vote count and vote for the Green Party and if you happen to be a libertarian, vote for the Libertarian Party," he continued.
Paul noted that some people say Trump is "far superior" or the lesser of two evils, but he doesn't know what the celebrity real estate mogul would do if elected president.

"Quite frankly, I'm not sure exactly what he'll do and that bothers me as well," he said, "because he can give two positions in one speech."

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274811-ron-paul-i-will-not-vote-for-trump



30 Sep, 2019
Forget The Impeachment Circus…Here’s What Congress Should Really Investigate! – Ron Paul Institute
While the country is being dragged through the three ring impeachment circus – which is all about politics and nothing about policy, President Trump’s secret wars and interventions across the globe continue. Venezuela, Middle East, Lithuania…the intervention is on overdrive. But Congress has no interest in its Constitutional obligations when it comes to war. Political theater is far more exciting.
youtube.com/watch?v=eH48AP5eRK0





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[Swordsmyth]

Maybe we should find out what Ron thinks now that Trump has a record of actual actions instead of just words.
Maybe we should think for ourselves.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Maybe we should find out what Ron thinks now that Trump has a record of actual actions instead of just words.

Yea, the record.

30 Sep, 2019
Forget The Impeachment Circus…Here’s What Congress Should Really Investigate! – Ron Paul Institute
While the country is being dragged through the three ring impeachment circus – which is all about politics and nothing about policy, President Trump’s secret wars and interventions across the globe continue. Venezuela, Middle East, Lithuania…the intervention is on overdrive. But Congress has no interest in its Constitutional obligations when it comes to war. Political theater is far more exciting.
youtube.com/watch?v=eH48AP5eRK0

Maybe we should think for ourselves.

Yes we should.
But when that thinking leads to celeberating a politician whose top funder couple consists of a Foreign-Firster Democrat (who wants his children to serve in military of a foreign country) and a member of a foreign country's military, maybe that thinking is based on flawed reasoning and mal-practice to advertize it as 'America-First'.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yea, the record.

30 Sep, 2019
Forget The Impeachment Circus…Here’s What Congress Should Really Investigate! – Ron Paul Institute
While the country is being dragged through the three ring impeachment circus – which is all about politics and nothing about policy, President Trump’s secret wars and interventions across the globe continue. Venezuela, Middle East, Lithuania…the intervention is on overdrive. But Congress has no interest in its Constitutional obligations when it comes to war. Political theater is far more exciting.
youtube.com/watch?v=eH48AP5eRK0





Yes we should.
But when that thinking leads to celeberating a politician whose top funder couple consists of a Foreign-Firster Democrat (who wants his children to serve in military of a foreign country) and a member of a foreign country's military, maybe that thinking is based on flawed reasoning and mal-practice to advertize it as 'America-First'.

Maybe his record is better than worse and far better than any other option.
Maybe it's his policies that matter and not his associates.
Maybe we should think for ourselves.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Maybe his record is better than worse and far better than any other option.
Maybe it's his policies that matter and not his associates.
Maybe we should think for ourselves.

Yea, maybe he's the lesser evil.
Maybe actions speak louder than words.
Maybe we should stop saying same things twice in same thread if already replied to.


But to be fair, he has not changed positions instantly on everything, on some issues there was gap of years:

Conservative Gun Owners Of America leader on Trump: 'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

2017: 5000 troops slated for new Afghan surge

2019: Trump Wants 10K More Troops In The Middle East. For What?




Sometimes it can be days before position is changed:

Oct. 7, 2019
Trump Administration Appears to Reverse Syria Decision Following Backlash
Source: USNEWS.com



And then, in all fairness, there are things on which he has been consistent and did not flip flop at all !

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[Swordsmyth]

Yea, maybe he's the lesser evil.
Maybe actions speak louder than words.
Maybe we should stop saying same things twice in same thread if already replied to.

Maybe he's the least of all possible goods.
Maybe you are ignoring or misrepresenting his actions.
And maybe I'll continue to say whatever I want, especially if it bugs you.


Maybe we should think for ourselves.

 

[acptulsa]

Maybe we should find out what Ron thinks now that Trump has a record of actual actions instead of just words.

Oh, good idea! Let's!

​President Trump is reversing his foreign policy decisions so quickly these days that it almost seems like he overturns himself before making the decision in the first place. Last week he was very clear that the US was pulling its troops out of Syria. “Bringing soldiers home,” he said. “Let someone else fight over this long-bloodstained sand.”

But then he overturned himself later in the same speech. [Doesn't sound like Ron Paul has changed his mind] He said: “We’ve secured the oil and therefore a small number of US troops will remain in the area where they have the oil. And we’re going to be protecting it and we’ll be deciding what we’re going to do with it in the future.”

Where does President Trump think he gets the legal or moral authority to send US troops to illegally occupy foreign territory and determine what that foreign country can or cannot do with its resources? After eight years of Obama’s disastrous “Assad must go” policy, during which the US provided weapons and training to radicals and terrorists with a half million people killed as a result, President Trump had the opportunity to finally close that dark chapter of US foreign policy so the Syrian people could rebuild their country.

Instead he sat down on Thursday with Senator Lindsey Graham, who has been wrong in every foreign policy position he’s ever taken, and decided to follow Graham’s advice to take Syria’s oil. Even though Trump himself has said many times that ISIS is 100 percent defeated, he claims we must take Syria’s oil to keep it from ISIS.

The real reason the neocons want the US military to occupy Syria’s oil fields is they are still convinced they can overthrow Assad by carving out eastern Syria for the Kurds. They don’t want to keep the oil from ISIS, they want to keep it from the Syrian government. They don’t want the oil revenue to be used to help rebuild the country because they still want to make life more unbearable for the population through sanctions so they will overthrow Assad. They don’t care how many innocent civilians die.

So instead of bringing the troops home like he promised, President Trump has allowed himself to be convinced to actually expand the US presence in eastern Syria! Instead of ending a foolish mission, he’s giving them an even more foolish mission – and sending in more troops and weapons. Instead of removing the approximately 200 troops in that region as promised, Trump is going to add more troops to equal about a thousand. He’s also sending in tanks and other armored vehicles, according to the Pentagon.

If President Trump believes following neocon advice on Syria is going to produce results different than the past eight years of following neocon advice on Syria, he’s naïve or worse. This new mission is going to cost tens of millions of dollars per month and will only serve to inspire the next generation of radicals. Trump is right that the people of the region, including Russia, Iran, Syria, and Turkey have all the incentive to keep ISIS at bay. So why does he fold like a cheap suit every time the neocons strong-arm him into another dumb foreign policy position?

Maybe we should think for ourselves.

Another good idea! And we do! Of course, every time we do, you spam us and scream at us like a banshee for breaking alt-right orthodoxy. But to your chagrin, that doesn't stop us!

 

[PAF]

Maybe we should think for ourselves.

Yes. Just maybe. However, those of us who think and act for ourselves are frowned upon by statists. Take me and you, for instance.

 

[dannno]

By the time the next election rolls around, I have a feeling Ron is going to have a tough decision to make. Especially if trump is finally afforded the opportunity to bring some troops home.

 

[PAF]

By the time the next election rolls around, I have a feeling Ron is going to have a tough decision to make. Especially if trump is finally afforded the opportunity to bring some troops home.

If so, , , since it would be his last term, what would/will he do during that last term once elected, , , redeploy?

I remember GWB giving a fantastic speech that sounded exactly like Ron.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh, good idea! Let's!

That isn't an opinion about whether he will vote for him this time.
And I doubt he will have an opinion until we are much closer to the election.

Another good idea! And we do! Of course, every time we do, you spam us and scream at us like a banshee for breaking alt-right orthodoxy. But to your chagrin, that doesn't stop us!

Projection.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes. Just maybe. However, those of us who think and act for ourselves are frowned upon by statists. Take me and you, for instance.

Projection.
I am the one who thinks for himself, you are the one who clings blindly to a rigid theory in spite of reality and results.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If so, , , since it would be his last term, what would/will he do during that last term once elected, , , redeploy?

I remember GWB giving a fantastic speech that sounded exactly like Ron.

Whoever runs against him will be much worse.
If Trump had lost last time we would already be engaged in multiple more wars.
Not to mention all the other important issues.

 

[acptulsa]

Projection.

Projection.

Oh, yes. Everybody's projecting but the Shyll.

Whoever runs against him will be...
If Trump had lost last time we would ...

Oh, wait, are those projections?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh, yes. Everybody's projecting but the Shyll.

You can't win the argument so you resort to insults.

 

[acptulsa]

You can't win the argument...

[MENTION=47542]enhanced_deficit[/MENTION] I think someone's asking you to add a poll to this thread.

 

[CCTelander]

Oh, yes. Everybody's projecting but the Shyll.

Naturally. That's why we need his all-knowing wisdom to guide us into the warm orange glow. We're so fortunate to have such a member here.

 

[dannno]

If so, , , since it would be his last term, what would/will he do during that last term once elected, , , redeploy?

I remember GWB giving a fantastic speech that sounded exactly like Ron.

GWB was owned by the deep state.

Trump is going to put them in prison, so he won't have to play their stupid games anymore.

I don't know if you have noticed that every time Trump announces pulling out troops, the deep state deploys a false flag within days of the announcement to bring him back in.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh, wait, are those projections?

Psychological projection is entirely different from logical projection.

 

[Swordsmyth]

@enhanced_deficit I think someone's asking you to add a poll to this thread.

As if voting determined truth.
Are you trying to use peer pressure to keep people from thinking for themselves?