"Ron Paul has the deepest support I've seen in decades.... could come around to win"

So, is RP2012 going to hire a strategist and work on the image? A good suit, etc?

This is needed to win IMO.
 
This video has me pumped. People really need to stop worrying about his style so much, and see this as a long term effort. Yes, of course, I want him to win. But if he didn't have the substance, or even if he appeared as a stylish politician, I likely wouldn't have supported him. But because he educated me on the issues, I have in turn educated about 8 people who I know fully support RP, and in turn have educated others. And I recommended silver when it was under $20 I have a little bit of credibility there. But now they are educating others.

And that doesn't even include the hundreds of others I've talked to but don't know what happened with them.
 
Ron needs to be more mindful of his posture as well. When others are speaking, he is usuallly slouching and looking down. He seems disengaged, almost like an autistic child.

Compare that to Romney, who is always erect (like the big prick that he is), and looks intently at whoever else is speaking.

This stuff matters, especially to women who gravitate towards strength, or at least the illusion of strength.

The campaign has got to invest some money into a specialist who understands this stuff.
 
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Ron needs to be more mindful of his posture as well. When others are speaking, he is usuallly slouching and looking down. He seems disengaged, almost like an autistic child.

Compare that to Romney, who is always erect (like the big prick that he is), and looks intently at whoever else is speaking.

This stuff matters, especially to women who gravitate towards strength, or at least the illusion of strength.

The campaign has got to invest some money into a specialist who understands this stuff.

Agreed. There are subtleties at work here that people unconsciously pick up on. People need to be able to picture RP chillin in the Oval Office as a proper looking president. Sad but true. All the door knocking and phone banking in the world won't get around this.
 
Ron needs to be more mindful of his posture as well. When others are speaking, he is usuallly slouching and looking down. He seems disengaged, almost like an autistic child.

Compare that to Romney, who is always erect (like the big prick that he is), and looks intently at whoever else is speaking.

This stuff matters, especially to women who gravitate towards strength, or at least the illusion of strength.

The campaign has got to invest some money into a specialist who understands this stuff.

If Ron had the poise, stature, and and speaking abilities of Romney or Perry I do believe Paul would win hands down. How something is said is unfortunately far more important than what is said. (To the general public)
 
Very good interview! wow!

I have to admit that I agree with the image stuff the strategist brought up. I guess I've been beating that drum since 2007... Part of me just realizes RP isn't going to change. I love RP but I get the feeling he's a bit stubborn at times. hahah :p
 
You and everyone who attacked me in that thread are wrong.

People go to college for this and it is based on psychology and science.

When did I ever attack you? I don't even know what thread you're talking about.

Look, all I'm saying if people are this concerned with appearence, then Paul won't get the nomination because "he doesn't look the part." Rick or Mitt or even Huntsman will. I for one don't really pay attention to his appearence until after the debate, when I can analyze it further. But, I'll just let psychology decide for me. Like that doesn't change every five seconds (and before you consider that an attack, it's not. I've taken several psychology classes as well).
 
Why are we talking about this? Ron does not change policy views nor does he wear makeup for TV, do debate prep or any of the other things some of us might like him to do. Accept it and move on.

Exactly. He will never change, so why complain? I don't want the man to have to fake it. Not for his posture, not for his clothes, not for his words, not anything. Does everyone really want the "same old, same old" here anyway?
 
Ron needs to be more mindful of his posture as well. When others are speaking, he is usuallly slouching and looking down. He seems disengaged, almost like an autistic child.

Compare that to Romney, who is always erect (like the big prick that he is), and looks intently at whoever else is speaking.

This stuff matters, especially to women who gravitate towards strength, or at least the illusion of strength.

The campaign has got to invest some money into a specialist who understands this stuff.


The problem is not the campaign not investing money in this, the problem is Ron doesn't do that kind of thing.
 
Ron doesnt need to even match up to Romney and Perry (who are both taller and younger)

Ross Perot was a little old pipsqueak. But he commanded the stage.

It's all about the body language and voice inflection.
 
Ron doesnt need to even match up to Romney and Perry (who are both taller and younger)

Ross Perot was a little old pipsqueak. But he commanded the stage.

It's all about the body language and voice inflection.

Yes, Ross Perot was a pitbull. Ron doesn't really match his intensity.
 
Why are we talking about this? Ron does not change policy views nor does he wear makeup for TV, do debate prep or any of the other things some of us might like him to do. Accept it and move on.

He doesn't need to compromise the message, he needs to tell non-supporters that (1) he can win, (2) he is the best choice for thier already formed values, and (3) he can handle the job.

If he can't wear a $3,000 suit and use makeup, he should at least be proactive in giving potential voters some confidence. And the longer he goes treating this like another educational campaign by not doing what winners do, the smaller the donation receipts will be.

When did I ever attack you? I don't even know what thread you're talking about.

Look, all I'm saying if people are this concerned with appearence, then Paul won't get the nomination because "he doesn't look the part." Rick or Mitt or even Huntsman will. I for one don't really pay attention to his appearence until after the debate, when I can analyze it further. But, I'll just let psychology decide for me. Like that doesn't change every five seconds (and before you consider that an attack, it's not. I've taken several psychology classes as well).

We need millions of votes, and to get them, we need to appeal to the average American. The ones who pick a candidate by asking who they would rather have a beer with. Paul may be able to win without playing the pretty-boy game, but he's going to need an alternative strategy to appeal to a majority of republican voters. They aren't looking to do research, they're looking at who is popular to support, and they'll go with the crowd.

For decades the media has led the crowd. The time is ripe to change this dynamic, with the help of the Internet, to make the crowd follow us early-adopters.

Paul can still win, but he'll need popular support and money. One way to do that is to polish your image and play politics. I hope Paul knows a second way.
 
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I know this is true. Every supporter for sure gets ONE person to vote for Ron..and those people have families, and more friends, and it is indeed exponential.

100% DEAD ON! I got my father turned onto Paul, and even my next door neighbor who is an older, 'typical' republican is turned onto Paul now because of my yard sign. At this rate we can DOMINATE!!!
 
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When did I ever attack you? I don't even know what thread you're talking about.

Look, all I'm saying if people are this concerned with appearence, then Paul won't get the nomination because "he doesn't look the part." Rick or Mitt or even Huntsman will. I for one don't really pay attention to his appearence until after the debate, when I can analyze it further. But, I'll just let psychology decide for me. Like that doesn't change every five seconds (and before you consider that an attack, it's not. I've taken several psychology classes as well).

I never said you attacked me.
 
A single dude can get girls without having nice shoes, but that does not mean he shouldn't have nice shoes.

Paul might as well invest some of his money to look the part and try to adopt some mannerisms and speaking techniques that can win over those who care less about substance and more about style.

This is the guy I want to vote for:

ron-paul.jpg


I hope this image becomes iconic.
 
This is the guy I want to vote for:

ron-paul.jpg


I hope this image becomes iconic.

It has become iconic - on fark.com it's posted to show how sad, lonely, and old Ron is.

Many of us see it much deeper than that, but we're not the millions of supporters that Ron needs to win.

We're the wine snob that knows which wine would be perfect with everyone's meals, but popular vote is going to order everyone a repugnant kitch wine that's way over priced and is endorsed by 2 of the contestants on Dancing with the Stars.

Bottom line: all those things that worked to bring us here are probably not going to draw a big enough crowd to win.
 
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