Ron Paul got the Atheist vote !

[G-Wohl]

To me, if there is no God, then fuck it. NWO away. I'll enslave you!

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.

 

[BagOfEyebrows]

Former semi-atheist/agnostic here -

If God is just the principles of liberty, freedom and peace, then it makes sense that atheists, who find a lot of contradictions in the man-written Bible and other religious texts, would logically gravitate towards a candidate who promotes the logic and compassion of the principles without insisting they be latched onto any religious sect and/or God-

Atheists very well could be God's most faithful defenders, if God is just those principles personified through our actions in life, love, work, play and politics.

Ron Paul doesn't judge atheists (or anyone) - he knows it's not his job.

And when God, if he is just the principles, judges atheists, they won't be going to hell - as they did believe and have faith in him, as the principles.



~ Former Atheist, Former Agnostic, Current God-as-the-principles believer/thinker who was an agnostic when casting the vote for Ron Paul in the primary.

 

[allyinoh]

I am an atheist and while I personally feel abortion is wrong, I am pro-choice.



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I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.

 

[allyinoh]

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.

 

[ARealConservative]

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.

The question is at what level of intervention do you support?

I'm pro-life (I hate these terms BTW), but I would not sanction an invasion of Mexico and force them to live by my views. In the same vein, I will not interfere with the governments of another state either. If possible, I wouldn't even have this decided at a state level - county sounds about right to me.

In the end, I will let other people decide for themselves - so let's call it pro-choice.

 

[G-Wohl]

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.

Absolutely not. The particular person I quoted, whom you so preposterously forgot to quote here, made a statement that, to me, said if there was no God, he would be fine with the NWO and the neo-con agenda. I thought THAT was unprincipled. Don't you?

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.

This is absolutely incorrect. As Ron Paul has shown time and time again, one's personal beliefs should NEVER get in the way of one's ability to make sound political decisions. Being pro-choice could simply be believing in the idea that every state should have a choice as to whether or not it would like to ratify a ban on abortion. This could be even more specific to mean that this choice is given to the individual. Regardless, being pro-choice simply implies being open-minded to other peoples' opinions, and respecting them without the absurd notion that one's personal view on any matter (abortion, drug use, etc.) should override somebody else's freedom of choice.

The way you say it, it's as if you think there are only two kinds of people out there: those that think nobody should get abortions, or those that think EVERYBODY should get abortions.

I'm a Libertarian; I'm pro-choice about EVERYTHING. If you're not infringing on somebody's rights by doing something, you should be able to do it. I don't care what my personal viewpoints on abortion, drugs, stem cell research, etc. are, because they are entirely irrelevant to the conversation. The fact is that I don't like the idea of abortion one bit, but that doesn't make it illegal or immoral for EVERYBODY. I respect the freedom of choice one has to exercise if they make the difficult, tough, and painful decision to get an abortion. You should too.

 

[RevolutionSD]

Atheists are suspicious of government and "higher authority." Is it any surprise that Ron cleans up with atheists? Half the regular members of this message board are atheists, which is hugely disproportionate to the general population.

It may be disproportionate, but atheists likely make up a far greater percentage of the population than our msm or gov't would have you believe.

 

[Eric21ND]

Not surprising. Atheists value intelligence. Ron Paul is the most intelligent person running for President, nuff said.

 

[DriftWood]

Yeah, I'm one of those.. but I'm kind of surprised.. there seems to be lots of em here.. I wonder what the demographics of Ron Paul supporters are. (I know it should not matter, we are all individuals, but still..)

Cheers

 

[sophocles07]

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.
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You suck. You know that's not what he meant.

 

[rathskeller]

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.

I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you act all smarmy and superior to people who beleive in god. Seriously.

You are not superiror to anyone on this planet. And your belief of lack thereof in a higher being has nothing to do with it. The fatc that you are a colossal prick is why you are inferiror to every single person on this planet. You are a worthless nobody who will never influence others. HJust realize that until the day you die a lonely, lonely death.

 

[Sandra]

I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you act all smarmy and superior to people who beleive in god. Seriously.

You are not superiror to anyone on this planet. And your belief of lack thereof in a higher being has nothing to do with it. The fatc that you are a colossal prick is why you are inferiror to every single person on this planet. You are a worthless nobody who will never influence others. HJust realize that until the day you die a lonely, lonely death.

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

 

[ultimaonliner]

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

We have to ignore Rathskeller as we do all other trolls.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

lmao, i love how trolls waste their time here. There's so many of 'em anymore.

their as easy to spot as the sun, it's almost kinda cute now, hahaha.