Ron Paul getting his own private jets

[ecliptic]

no flying for Ron Paul

Offers of free jet travel sound awesome, until you start to look at other "convenient crashes" in recent history:

CNN - politicians killed in plane crashes



• 2002 Senator Paul Wellstone - private jet crashed mysteriously killing him, his wife and one of his children and four other people ( key opposition to Iraq war )
• 2000 Governor Mel Carnahan of Missouri was killed in a plane crash weeks before an election.
• 1996 TWA flight 800 crash killing large number of French intelligence community
• 1996 Ron Brown plane crash
• 1993 Governor George Mickelson plane crash
• 1991 Pennsylvania Senator John Heinz and six other people were killed
• 1991 Senator John Tower plane crash
• 1989 Rep. Larkin Smith plane crash
• 1989 Rep. Mickey Leland plane crash

• 1983 Rep. Larry MacDonald killed (?) in the KAL007 crash

Larry McDonald was known for his conservative views, even by Southern standards, and became a leader in Congress of those taking positions to uphold the US Constitution as envisioned by the Framers.
... Much of the congressional district McDonald represented would later be represented by Newt Gingrich.

"We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box."
- Larry MacDonald

We Hold These Truths by Larry P. MacDonald


• 1978 Richard "Dick" Obenshain of Virginia died in a plane crash shortly after receiving the GOP nomination.
• 1976 Congressman Jerry Litton, also of Missouri, died in a plane crash on the day he was nominated by his party.
• 1972 Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt's wife Dorothy Hunt died in the crash of flight 553 ( crucial Watergate evidence lost forever )

 

[joshuainmn]

I love how someone comes on here and offers a favor, and instead the conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork to shoot him down. The cost to the person making the flight compared to what he charges is probably pretty small. To him, he's donating a few hundred. To ron paul, he's saving a grand, since most of his flights are probably booked last minute at a retarded rate.

I'm highly doubting this was a way to assassinate ron, but rather was a way for a guy to get some exposure, while saving ron a ton of markup cash.

Let the campaign decide what is right and wrong for ron to do to travel around the country, don't immediately bash ideas because you feel there is a greater coverup. If anything, that will do nothing but hurt and slowdown this campaign.

 

[njandrewg]

yeah its a little scary, but I think if something did happen, it would force the RP supporters to revolt. And since it looks like most of you guys have guns, it would be an interesting situation

 

[guntherg16]

I love how someone comes on here and offers a favor, and instead the conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork to shoot him down. The cost to the person making the flight compared to what he charges is probably pretty small. To him, he's donating a few hundred. To ron paul, he's saving a grand, since most of his flights are probably booked last minute at a retarded rate.

I'm highly doubting this was a way to assassinate ron, but rather was a way for a guy to get some exposure, while saving ron a ton of markup cash.

Let the campaign decide what is right and wrong for ron to do to travel around the country, don't immediately bash ideas because you feel there is a greater coverup. If anything, that will do nothing but hurt and slowdown this campaign.

As I wrote previously:

I believe it is illegal for the owner of the aircraft to donate the use of it to a candidate. I think that the candidate must pay the aircraft owner the price of what the fare would be on a commercial craft. Obviously the owner would still be donating a considerable amount.

With that said, I too think it would be a bad idea for Ron Paul to accept. I am not a trusting person. I do not mean to disparage the owner of the aircraft or his offer. The owner of the aircraft will not be able to monitor it 24/7 to guarantee no one has tampered with it.

I just feel that Ron Paul is safer flying with hundreds of other people on a commercial flight.

 

[DjLoTi]

It's up to the person to decide how much he wants to charge for his services.

 

[njandrewg]

the rules say that for donated use of private air craft the candidate has to pay the cost of a first class ticket

 

[DjLoTi]

the rules say that for donated use of private air craft the candidate has to pay the cost of a first class ticket

Apparently that is something like 1/10 of the cost.

 

[james1906]

the MSM could have a field day with this saying that 'maverick' congressman ron paul is in cahoots with the airline industry.

flying public aircraft makes more sense, it shows he's a man of the people. sharing a plane with a presidential candidate makes a good impression.

 

[austinphish]

This is just free advertising. He can't donate any more than $2,300 worth of "jet value" to Ron Paul which isn't even 1 flight.

 

[ButchHowdy]

Daniel 1:8

 

[V-rod]

MAY-BEE TheY'll CRash Ron Paul into the empire State on 9-11-07.

911truth.org LOL!!1!1!

 

[SeanEdwards]

I think RP should travel in a up-armored Madden cruiser.

 

[purepaloma]

Does anyone know the status of this offer?

I hope Ron is using it at least a little.

 

[Cowlesy]

I love how someone comes on here and offers a favor, and instead the conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork to shoot him down. The cost to the person making the flight compared to what he charges is probably pretty small. To him, he's donating a few hundred. To ron paul, he's saving a grand, since most of his flights are probably booked last minute at a retarded rate.

Exactly. When I have to travel we always have to book refundable tickets which can be the difference between a $400 non-refundable and $4,600 refundable. If he can get a few low-cost charter flights to make it a little easier on his schedule, I say go for it---it's not like the media covers how he travels anyway.

 

[born2drv]

RON PAUL NEEDS TO ACCEPT THIS OFFER!!

We need all the help we can get, I'm not worried about Ron's safety, this is a private company, the last thing they want is to see harm come to anyone on one of their jets, it would destroy their reputation and business.

I say Ron Paul should accept all donations he possibly can because this going to be a tough, long, drawn out battle and we need all the support we possible can.

It will also help him reach that coveted "top tier" status. I'm not saying Ron should fly around pretending to be an elitist. I'm saying if someone offers to fly you for you free and you're trying to spread a message and fight a battle as important as this, it's simply wrong to turn it down. And it will also encourage other private businesses to contribute in any way they can.

 

[mconder]

Exactly. When I have to travel we always have to book refundable tickets which can be the difference between a $400 non-refundable and $4,600 refundable. If he can get a few low-cost charter flights to make it a little easier on his schedule, I say go for it---it's not like the media covers how he travels anyway.

Thanks for bringing a little sanity to the discussion.

 

[happyphilter]

I think he should accept it. It would make things a lot easier on him and I dont think in any way it would hurt his image. Plus he would get much needed attention.

I cant believe you guys are paranoid this is an assassination attempt or something.

 

[Revolution9]

Look at the reflections in the first pic. There is a skull holding a baddger in its teeth and the other reflection in the side shelf is a deaths head with a pilots goggle with ne eye..

Nah.. My Nanna used to read tea leaves and would have said no. Nthing against the company..

B est
Randy

 

[Wyurm]

I'm not sure he CAN accept it. The problem is that this would probably be seen as an in kind donation by the FEC. So it might not be possible for him to accept.

 

[DjLoTi]

He can accept it as long as he's charged for first-class air fare. BTW-- this topic is like over a month old. lol