Ron Paul getting his own private jets

[american.swan]

WARNING: DO NOT ACCEPT THE PRIVATE JET.


We need to keep our man alive people!

I was worried about this the second I saw it. Then I read Ecliptic's post and was relieved someone else was thinking the same thing.

AMEN!!! Do NOT accept

 

[Shink]

He can accept it as long as he's charged for first-class air fare. BTW-- this topic is like over a month old. lol

I'm glad to see it back. People ought to call the campaign requesting they accept the offer. Drive through the message that it's legal, it'd save him a shitload of money, and he'd get more places more often. I think he should be all over Nevada and New Hampshire and South Carolina, repeatedly right now.

 

[0zzy]

ROFL I love how everyone is saying he will end up dead of he accepts!

 

[jonahtrainer]

I think he should accept it. It would make things a lot easier on him and I dont think in any way it would hurt his image. Plus he would get much needed attention.

I cant believe you guys are paranoid this is an assassination attempt or something.

I am sure he is a target. However, Rense.com has issued a pretty stern warning. I am not sure I would want to call their bluff. Who knows what to believe though.

From the article:
""So far, I have told the Illuminati that they are no longer allowed to murder Japanese politicians. I now plan to extend this protection to all politicians in the West. If the Illuminati assassinate or attempt to assassinate Ron Paul, Barak Obama or any politician,
...
He provided a list of 10,000 people associated with the Illuminati, mainly members of the Bilderberg, CFR and Skull and Bones. Neo Cons are also high priority targets.
...
"So far, I have told the Illuminati that they are no longer allowed to murder Japanese politicians. I now plan to extend this protection to all politicians in the West. If the Illuminati assassinate or attempt to assassinate Ron Paul, Barak Obama or any politician"

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

He can accept it as long as he's charged for first-class air fare. BTW-- this topic is like over a month old. lol

I thought so...

If the cost is the same (1st class fare), I wonder which is better for publicty? On one hand he will get through airports quicker, on the other hand... He is seen as a man of the people, by the people.

And alot of people might I add. Huge amounts of people, normal voters. If I were him I'd wear a polo that say's, "I am Ron Paul...", (but then, I'm a little off... ) I mean, speakins as an authority, ain't this a no brainer? What does he benefit from the increased risk?

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[im_a_pepper]

Wow. Talk about paranoid. I for one thinks he is wrong to pass up the offer. Campaigning is stressful, and don't forget If Carol Paul gets to where she can travel around any, this is definitely better for her sake. Ron needs some sanctity at least. His campaign is going to press more and more demands on him to be in many places at once and this just serves that overall purpose. He likes to continue serving in House and this would give him the luxury of both. Neal Rodriguez should be commended for this. This also gives the image of a "serious" contender, and sadly imaging is what turns many peoples head towards the right direction.

 

[ButchHowdy]

No private jets.

Daniel 1:8

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

I don't even think this should be an issue. Ron Paul doesn't want to run my life and I don't want to run his. If he wants to take the private jet because of the comfort and easiness it provides him and his family, I will support his decision. If he wants to decline it because he's worried about a conspiracy theory to assassinate him or because he wants to be humble, I will support his decision. Part of Ron Paul's appeal is that he's one of us and that he isn't a typical politician. On the other hand, the jet would make scheduling and moving around a lot easier. I'm not going to tell Dr. Paul what he should or shouldn't do because that would imply that I have more knowledge than he does and I don't. I trust his judgement and so should you.

 

[Larofeticus]

Geez some of the theories that I see are something else.

Future CNN Headline:
Longshot Candidate Refuses Chartered Jet; cites Fear of Assasination

All those bloggers would just grab this and run. They already claim every last Paul supporter is freaking nuts for some reason. (yeah thats sarcasm. I know exactly why they can so easily claim we're all crazy, and you know it too)

 

[Darren McFillintheBlank]

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[Cowlesy]

I hope when he makes overseas visits he charters a giant clipper ship with a captain that wears the "Captain Crunch" hat.

 

[inibo]

Daniel 1:8

Nice.

 

[McDermit]

Jeez. Let Ron Paul and HQ make these decisions. It's not our place and the conspiracy crap just makes us look bad.

 

[ButchHowdy]

No private jets.

Daniel 1:8

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

I hope when he makes overseas visits he charters a giant clipper ship with a captain that wears the "Captain Crunch" hat.

LOL

Jeez. Let Ron Paul and HQ make these decisions. It's not our place and the just makes us look bad.

Hear here!

Although, I always wonder when someone labels valid concerns as paranoia etc.

The "poor Carol" point just seems... wrong.

Private is more risky

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

Which is safer flying or driving?

Fatalities per million trips Odds of being killed

on a single trip

Airliner (Part 121)0.01952.6 million to 1
Automobile0.1307.6 million to 1
Commuter Airline (Part 135 scheduled)1.72581,395 to 1
Commuter Plane (Part 135 - Air taxi on demand)6.10163,934 to 1
General Aviation (Part 91)13.373,187 to 1

May I repeat:
13 to 1 (general)


0.012 to 1 (commercial)

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[mdh]

No private jets.

Daniel 1:8

Verse doesn't seem relevant. A supporter who happens to be in the employ or ownership/management of a private jet firm hardly seems akin to the king.

I'd personally think Dr. Paul might appreciate this sort of offer, every now and then, and find it exceptionally thoughful of IJ to make such an offer. It's up to him, of course, whether to take them up on it.

 

[jj111]

The three men I admire most
The Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Took the last train to the coast
The day the music died.

No private jets please.

 

[mdh]

May I repeat:
13 to 1 (general)

Um....
So are you claiming that for every 13 GA flights, 1 results in a crash? For every 13 GA user-trips, one is a fatality?
Also, GA covers little personal single-engine Cessna's (the kind you can pick up used for about as much as a nice car), too. That accounts for the majority of GA crashes.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Um....
So are you claiming that for every 13 GA flights, 1 results in a crash? For every 13 GA user-trips, one is a fatality?
Also, GA covers little personal single-engine Cessna's (the kind you can pick up used for about as much as a nice car), too. That accounts for the majority of GA crashes.

No, I am just posting data from the ntsb, the safest is commercial airlines, per million flights in this dataset

 

[kickzman]

Please read this book:

American Assassination

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Senator Paul Wellstone was, "the first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. Senate." In Senate Race 2002, the White House made defeating Wellstone priority #1. Karl Rove hand-picked arch Republican Norm Coleman to run against him. Despite massive funding, Coleman was trailing the popular Wellstone two weeks before election day.
Then, tragedy struck. On the morning of October 25th, 2002, Wellstone was killed after a mysterious communication cut-out and crash of his small aircraft. He died alongside his wife Sheila, their daughter Marcia, three staff members, and two pilots, while trying to land at Minnesota’s Eveleth airfield. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer insisted to his reporter at the scene that foul weather was the lethal factor in the crash, despite the statements to the contrary from the CNN correspondent. To this day, the public tends to blame the weather.

Ph.D. Professors James Fetzer and Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs present the harrowing truth. The plane was exceptionally airworthy. The weather didn’t bring down Senator Wellstone. Nor were the two pilots incompetent, as the report of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) would eventually claim.

The facts point elsewhere. The FBI arrived at the remote rural crash scene less than two hours after the crash. Could they have known about it in advance? The FBI forbade the ambulance and fire teams to take photos. Even the AP photographer on hand was intimidated, delayed and then highly monitored. For some reason, a member of the U.S. Capitol Police Dignitary Protection Division was also present.

Why did the FBI state that they were treating the site as a "crime scene" although there were "no indications of any criminal activity"? How could the FBI so very swiftly conclude and state publicly, before NTSB arrived, that there was "no evidence of terrorism" involved? Why did the NTSB search for a "black box" for a day and a half and then conclude that there hadn't been one, after all?

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Both authors are decorated university professors. A Native American, Four Arrows (a.k.a. Dr. Don Jacobs) teaches educational leadership and is a staunch critic of US foreign policy. Dr. Jim Fetzer is a published expert on U.S. political assassinations and the logic of science.

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• There was never any distress call from the pilots. Communication was somehow cut off shortly before the crash.

• NTSB’s Carol Carmody handled the Wellstone case. A former CIA official, Carmody is a damage-control expert who handled the NTSB’s investigation of the suspicious aircraft crash of Democratic Senatorial candidate Mel Carnahan, exactly two years earlier.

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• Some witnesses heard the engines cutting out, a phenomenon not consistent with a stall.

• Others reported odd cell-phone and garage-door phenomena that were taking place about the same time the plane lost both communications and control.

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• One of the members who actually signed the report, Richard Healing, admitted that they really had no idea what had caused the plane to crash.

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Reports of garage doors that mysteriously opened in the immediate vicinity are surfacing. And radar images from the time of the plane crashes of Senator Carnahan and of Senator Wellstone are suggestive of EMP imprints. These weapons not only jam a plane's electronics but also disable its radio communications.

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A meticulous, objective, and scientific analysis of the available relevant evidence that established beyond a reasonable doubt that this was no accident and explains why the death of Senator Paul Wellstone appears to have resulted from a political conspiracy.


"I'm for the little fellers, not the Rockefellers"

- Senator Paul Wellstone 1944 - 2002

I live here in MN, and new Wellstone to be like our very own Ron Paul, and true the Gov despised him...I think its best we do not dwell on the unknown, what we can do now is support Ron Paul, but I do believe the man should be guarded heavily as the campaign gains traction.