Ron Paul delegates

[sidster]

Thank you, Spirit.

I for one am proud that y'all conducted yourselves in a way that put the GOP on notice.

Great. Kudos for those who sold out. That's the way we
run here at RPF... this coming from a MOD no less

You did a FANTASTIC job.

Absolutely ... you f-ing clowns that couldn't stand your ground
and at least abstain from voting for mccain.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Great. Kudos for those who sold out. That's the way we
run here at RPF... this coming from a MOD no less




Absolutely ... you f-ing clowns that couldn't stand your ground
and at least abstain from voting for mccain.

But they kept their composure and did not make a scene LOL

wtf is wrong with this type of thinking!

Make a damn scene or NOT but at least VOTE THE WAY the people who VOTED YOU DELEGATES asked of you.

ssshhhh, we need to be cool because if we make a scene we might actually stir up the realization that MCCAIN IS BULLSHIT.

If this is what ron paul wanted then he is not my candidate AND I doubt this is what ron paul wanted. If he wanted us to vote for mccain then odds are he would have put out the memo as well as spoke at the convention itself and praised mccain INSTEAD of having his own convention.

We have mods, delegates and many others who are flipping all over the damn place.

This place is turning into a nightmare day by day

 

[jacmicwag]

Interesting. I never even made it to state but I do know it took quite a bit of time and effort to go all the way to national as a RP delegate or alternate. I'm not in a position to judge any of them except to say next time we kick their (GOP) ass - hopefully.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Interesting. I never even made it to state but I do know it took quite a bit of time and effort to go all the way to national as a RP delegate or alternate. I'm not in a position to judge any of them except to say next time we kick their (GOP) ass - hopefully.

I understand that it took time, money and effort and some even in here helped raise money for some of them to go. Now saying that, what is the point in wasting all of that time effort and money just to go and vote for mccain?

that is where it makes my head hurt and would love to wrap my brain around that understanding BESIDES "trying to not make a scene as Dr. Paul instructed"...

It looked like everyone there made a scene the entire night, dressing like crazy people, confetti, balloon drops, cowboy hats, dancing around like crazy people... Not understand what scene Dr. Paul was instructing them NOT to make.

 

[Orgoonian]

Sometimes in life,it is better to "play the game",and walk away.
There was no victory to be had.The game was over before it started.It was fixed,rigged,get it?
I wasn't there,and neither were most of those complaining,but it seems to me our delegates played "smart"

We want to win the war,not fight in some worthless battle that could not be won.

 

[amyk]

I used to vote for the lesser of two evils until RP and really did not care about the whole thing (much to my shame ) but since supporting him I became an alternate and was seated, at our state convention it was a joke! We were ignored and kicked off the mics, if we tried to bring up anything against the "majority" we were shot down. I have read accounts of the national delegates being brought into rooms full of McCain stooges and secret service. I have also read that many walked out of the convention instead of casting their votes for McCain. Before reading these I was livid and thought how dare they, we put them there to represent us. Now I feel for what they went through and for those who had the courage to walk out I applaud you!

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

I used to vote for the lesser of two evils until RP and really did not care about the whole thing (much to my shame ) but since supporting him I became an alternate and was seated, at our state convention it was a joke! We were ignored and kicked off the mics, if we tried to bring up anything against the "majority" we were shot down. I have read accounts of the national delegates being brought into rooms full of McCain stooges and secret service. I have also read that many walked out of the convention instead of casting their votes for McCain. Before reading these I was livid and thought how dare they, we put them there to represent us. Now I feel for what they went through and for those who had the courage to walk out I applaud you!

walk out versus vote for that asshole would have made the most sense if their vote for ron paul would not have been heard.

I know some rp votes were heard though so SOME were able to do something but I do agree that it is better to walk out then to cast that mccain vote versus the mentality of "playing the game" to win the war.. I doubt that even though some delegates voted for mccain this time that they would then earn anything once they try and vote for a similar candidate next time as well..

I just don't understand the strategy is all and hoping a delegate who did vote mccain can enlighten us is all. What benefit is given for voting for mccain? I can't see it but yes I knew it was going to be a hard road to walk to the convention and is why we need strong soldiers out there to deal with that crap next time.

Hold the line!

 

[Gin]

I am ashamed. They would not even let Ron Paul in the convention and his so called supporters sold him out on a breeze. SICK and FOOLISH

Why are you ashamed? They were going to let Paul into the convention, but under their terms (brief period, keeping his credentials, no one could go with him, he couldn't speak) Plus, he stated that in order to go on the convention floor would mean going against everything he believes... Personally I applaud Paul for not succumbing to their requests... It shows his integrity......

 

[Spirit of '76]

I didn't realize that RP had requested as such... that changes things a bit for me.... Didn't they call the vote? I thought that I read somewhere that they deemed McCain the Nominee before all of roll call was taken... am I correct?

They deemed McCain the nominee months ago.

Seriously, this was the John McCain/Sarah Palin/Hurricane Gustav Benefit Telethon. It's all scripted and it's totally fake. There hasn't been a real nominating convention in decades. The nomination of John McCain was a fait accompli, and actively disrupting their little ceremony would have done no good at all.

By looking at the TV's inside the XCel Center, it was easy to see that there was at least a 10 second delay on all television broadcasts, so any disruption would have just been edited out before the American people got to see it, and it would have damaged the inroads we had made with the other members of our delegation.

As for when they officially declared him the nominee, I'm not sure. I left to catch the shuttle after WV cast our votes for Ron Paul.

I'm glad the WV delegates stuck to their guns.... Kuddos to you guys!!

Thanks! Did you hear what Russ Weeks, the WV GOP candidate for governor, said when I thanked him for reading out our votes for Dr. Paul? He just shrugged and said, "Hell, I got an election coming up."

They take us very seriously, and they know that in a state where the GOP is already so thin, they can't afford to alienate us.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Did he also ask you to vote for mccain as well?

No. The only person I ever heard suggest that any of us should vote for McCain was a young man from Massachusetts called "Cambridge Chris". Most of us told him to forget it.

 

[Spirit of '76]

walk out versus vote for that asshole would have made the most sense if their vote for ron paul would not have been heard.

I know some rp votes were heard though so SOME were able to do something but I do agree that it is better to walk out then to cast that mccain vote versus the mentality of "playing the game" to win the war.. I doubt that even though some delegates voted for mccain this time that they would then earn anything once they try and vote for a similar candidate next time as well..

I just don't understand the strategy is all and hoping a delegate who did vote mccain can enlighten us is all. What benefit is given for voting for mccain? I can't see it but yes I knew it was going to be a hard road to walk to the convention and is why we need strong soldiers out there to deal with that crap next time.

Hold the line!

I don't think you understand what went on there. Walk out is exactly what most of the RP delegates who didn't vote for RP did. They were told by their state delegation chair that their votes for RP would not even be read out during the roll call, so they could either vote for McCain or abstain.

In those delegations, some abstained, and some showed they were bigger people than their opponents by exchanging credentials with an alternate who would find voting for McCain to be the thrill of a lifetime. In so doing, they built some bridges with rank and file Republicans who now understand that not all Ron Paul people are the lunatic fanatics they've made us out to be.

In our delegation (WV), that wasn't a problem. Our state chair assured us our votes would be read, and they were (even if they weren't recognized from the podium). And you have to understand that he took a lot of heat from the RNC for that.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Thank you, Spirit.

I for one am proud that y'all conducted yourselves in a way that put the GOP on notice. Ron is NOT the "mayor of kookytown" (Glenn Beck's constant drum beat). His supporters are neither freaks nor children living in their momma's basement. (Okay, some of y'all ARE freaks and some of y'all BEHAVE like children living in your momma's basement. )

You did a FANTASTIC job.

Thank you.

Thanks! And thank you for helping make it all possible -- especially the Rally for the Republic!