Dr. Ron Paul have achieve so much in the government, have earned so much respect and have gone through all kinds of challenges with real evil doers that are hell bent bias against him. That in mind, people need to give him credit of 'he is fully aware of what he is doing', as he associate himself with Alex Jones (Infowars and Prison Planet) and George Noory (Coast to Coast).
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Folks give Coast a severely misinformed bad rap. Go through their guest archive and you'll find the same folks on main stream. That's a bogus argument to say they are infotainment.
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I don't disagree with anything that you said. I just lump Coast to Coast in the infotainment category, along with plenty of mainstream "news" programs. Ron should avoid everything that falls into that category. Doing so is him playing his part to take power away from them, and to give it to people who actually present news and offer fair, substance-based interviews. If every Serious man or woman followed that lead the noise and delusions would come to an end, and we'd be left with only with truth in our news.
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Not for nothing, but that really hasn't benefited us much now has it? It is hard to speculate because there is no data on this, but it would interesting to find out whether his association with these programs has resulted in a net positive or net negative level of support.
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Mainstream folks appear in a lot of infotainment settings to hawk their wares.
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Perhaps. I still say the more ears the better. I don't really care about the platform, per se. To each their own is my opinion of it.
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So what are we going to do to get more people out to vote that know who Paul is then? I'm tired of pacs that don't do the job. MSM kills Ron, I'm sick of playing phone tag and i think handing out flyers to folks who already have their mind made up is silly. Especially when it's cold as heck outside.
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You talk to people who have given fair interviews in the past. Cavuto, Kelly, Morgan, Kudlow, Maddow, the folks on Squawk Box (I'm not sure if that show is still on though), Candy Crowley, etc, etc. There are plenty of people who engage in real, honest-to-goodness journalism and news-presentation. They might have their own personal biases, but they offer Ron a fair platform, aren't blowhards, limit their rumor/fear/hate mongering and generally have truth in mind when they go about their work.
We should reward people like that, and ignore everyone else.
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It may very well be too late for this campaign season. Sadly, I think many are coming to the realization that Paul's support is a mile deep, but only an inch wide. We have a very dedicated, enthusiastic bunch of supporters, but there simply are not enough of us to make a significant impact especially since we are coming into the bigger primary contests and the Paul campaign has been unable to secure a win with their strategy.
However, if you are concerned about how we can move forward and work on a local level to elect sound candidates to office, you would need to get yourself involved in your local community so that you can have an influence on how others vote. In my opinion, the true measure of a grassroots activist is not how many Facebook "likes" they can get for posting an article, but how many people from their local community that they can deliver to the polls and vote for a particular candidate. This is more than simply knocking on doors, or handing out fliers at the local mall. While those things are beneficial, nothing beats a personal recommendation from someone that others know and respect. I detailed some ways to get involved in your local community in another thread. Feel free to have a look at it.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363816-How-Many-Votes-Can-You-Deliver
If you can become involved locally, you can deliver literally hundreds of votes from your local community for a sound candidate.
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Well. Thanks but you're preaching to the choir. My citizenship is in and of itself. Not that it wasn't useful information.
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You're spinning what I said. Last I checked, Buzz Aldrin doesn't hawk warez.
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Actually, he does. He went on the show to plug a book, I believe. That's basically why anyone goes on any show.
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Wonder how many times the statesman's name and policies will be brought up during tonight's show. My bet is many. I'll count.
King Nothing, in the Washington Caucus Results thread you said "We can continue to spread the message of Liberty to every willing and not-so-willing ear". I didn't -1 you for being a flip flopper, btw.
King Nothing, in the Washington Caucus Results thread you said "We can continue to spread the message of Liberty to every willing and not-so-willing ear". I didn't -1 you for being a flip flopper, btw.
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Great discussion on Coast now. Have heard Ron Paul around 20 times so far as well as his position on current events. Foster Grant ( who has endorsed Ron - DP link) isn't even on yet for his 3 hours. Will be on after Jones is finished discussing the what's really going on in our world by following the money upstream -- uncovering the global consolidation of power in nearly every aspect of our lives. . Jones btw has Dave Mustaine with him. Guess they just got back from his concert or something. Maybe he'll chime in too. Who knows...
Listen live...like millions of others are now...regardless of what the flip floppers think.
Listen live...like millions of others are now...regardless of what the flip floppers think.
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You can also always download the shows for up to 7 days afterwards on KSFO.
http://www.ksfo560.com/Article.asp?id=534876
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Individuals spreading the message of liberty to anyone willing to hear it, and the most serious presidential candidate to run during our lifetime appearing on a show that routinely discusses aliens, beings from other dimensions, and shadow people are not one in the same. I never flip-flopped.
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Well. All I've heard in the last hour on the show is Ron Paul discussion. The caucuses so far, the future of this election cycle relevant to Ron Paul and a whole lot more. Am interested in how Grant follows up on what has been a complete discussion on Ron Paul so far....and he's not even on it tonight. Grant's up next.
Think what you wish. Right now Ron Paul is the discussion on the show and basically has been for the last hour. And a darn good discussion it's been so far.
Think what you wish. Right now Ron Paul is the discussion on the show and basically has been for the last hour. And a darn good discussion it's been so far.
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Cool. Sounds like he doesn't even need to appear on the show to be an important part of the conversation then.
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That logic is why the separation of demograph exists between supporters. You'll never over come it and merge with that thinking. Kind of like when the establishment refered to Paul supporters as fringe. Same process with some Paul supporters refering to other Paul supporters as fringe. No wonder they stay home.
Sadly, I think it's the self proclaimed hard core Paul supporters that help to keep him down sometimes. In a hurry to go nowhere they are.
Sadly, I think it's the self proclaimed hard core Paul supporters that help to keep him down sometimes. In a hurry to go nowhere they are.
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That's like saying we don't need to go vote for liberty to be an important part of the conversation. Although possible, it's equally probable that aliens abducting Ron Paul tonight.
Before Ron Paul became a major center of discussion (or at least his views) on C2C, I would listen for entertainment value. But, hearing people talk about economics and bringing up his name, or people talking about our political system such as Oath Keepers founder, all on C2C mind you, is the reason I am here today.
Your right, we should be gun shy paranoid individuals and run from any opportunity to get more coverage.
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