Ron Paul, Buy a 15 Minute Block Of TV Time. Subvert The MSM! Speak To The People!

[tangent4ronpaul]

Just sent off a inquiry asking for pricing info for several different configurations.

Does someone have a google ads account that could check out pricing via GoogleTV?

If we did ads in closed states, we might consider a web site (not a bad idea anyway) but I was thinking of for voter registration. In the thread on open and closed states, someone posted a link to a pdf booklet that provided a form and info to register in all 50 states. Got me thinking about this site:

http://www.getmyfbifile.com/

You enter your information and it generates a FOIA request letter for you - then you hit print, add a stamp and you're good.

We could do that with a voter registration form...

-t

 

[Professor8000]

They could run a 15min ad during American Idol and sponsor the show for no commercial breaks one night. Lots of people would see that. It would probably be expensive as hell but it would definitely get out to the people during prime time. Best time to do it. A lot of money can be saved in production by the vast amount of material already out there. It would be a very good opportunity to show the country that no one can hold a candle to Ron Paul's record.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

That's not a bad idea... I believe American Idol is the #q rated show in the country - but at the same time, I'm not sure there is 15 minutes of ad time during the show and it sure would not all be together. I also suspect that at least some of those ad slots are booked well in advance.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I found this over at Daily Paul, and while it's from 2007, it clearly demonstrates that most of our support base are NOT republicans that vote in primaries!

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http://www.dailypaul.com/977/demographics-of-ron-paul-supporters

Demographics of Ron Paul Supporters
Submitted by USPatriot36 on Sat, 07/28/2007 - 17:29
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Only 25 percent of Ron Paul Supporters previously considered themselves Republicans. A high percentage of those probably did not vote in the 2004 or 2006 primary do to dislike for the Bush policies. Therefore, I propose the Ron Paul support is 4-5 times what most political pollsters are counting because their methodology is badly flawed.

Previously I posted explaining that the reason pollsters are undercounting Ron Paul voters is because they are counting 'likely republican primary voters' which they determine by whether the person voted previously in recent republican primaries. I decided to get some facts to back up my contention that most Ron Paul voters will not come from what the pollsters consider 'likely republican republican primary voters'. I pulled the following data about Ron Paul supporters from rally.ronpaulplanet.com. The data about previous party affiliation is probably fairly representative of his current national political base. The data about age is probably skewed against the older population. The 50+ population is probably under-represented in this data because of lack of Internet use from which this sample data is taken.

1st column is # of Respondants
2nd column is Percentage
3rd column is Previous Party Affiliation

240 25.47 Republican
314 33.33 Independant
193 20.48 Libertarian
092 09.76 Democrat
031 03.29 Constitutional
010 01.06 Green
062 06.58 Did not Answer
942 Total Respondants

Break down of Supporters by Age:

007 Too Young to Vote
069 17-19
373 20-29
222 30-39
076 40-49
020 50-59
004 60-69
000 80+
045 No Answer

 

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Don't you get that RP's support base is totally different than your average Republican candidate?

I found this over at Daily Paul, and while it's from 2007, it clearly demonstrates that most of our support base are NOT republicans that vote in primaries!

And that's exactly why we could do nothing else and get a guaranteed 7-9% of the vote. Those people are locked in and are our base.

But to achieve electoral victory we have to convince many more than that to vote for Ron. That means "average Republicans" who are likely to vote in the primary / caucus. That means doing traditional proven methods that win campaigns, not eccentric, esoteric, and random strategies. In 2008 we DIDN'T use many traditional methods and you see where we landed.

If we want to achieve electoral victory we need more than that which means we are going to have to use normal methods to reach average Republicans.

No it's not very sexy, but if you want to achieve electoral victory it's what we have to do.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

So if we did really well and reached 40,000,000 people and got a 5% responce rate that followed through - yeah, that would only be an additional 2 million voters - wouldn't help at all

Last time we got ~8.3% of the vote and didn't win a single state. This time we are using traditional methods and are polling at 9% on average - yeah, we are really gonna win this way...

 

[trey4sports]

So if we did really well and reached 40,000,000 people and got a 5% responce rate that followed through - yeah, that would only be an additional 2 million voters - wouldn't help at all

Last time we got ~8.3% of the vote and didn't win a single state. This time we are using traditional methods and are polling at 9% on average - yeah, we are really gonna win this way...

Why do you think no major candidate is advertising during American Idol? Because you're not reaching your target audience, and on top of that it would incredibly expensive to do.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Why do you think no major candidate is advertising during American Idol? Because you're not reaching your target audience, and on top of that it would incredibly expensive to do.

read post 262 and 263

and I have gone over and over our "target audience" is not who you think.

 

[trey4sports]

read post 262 and 263

and I have gone over and over our "target audience" is not who you think.

FYI, your going to have to win the GOP nomination with likely GOP voters. Anyway, I've made it pretty clear where i stand on this idea so i'll get out of your way and let you present your case to potential donors.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

FYI, your going to have to win the GOP nomination with likely GOP voters. Anyway, I've made it pretty clear where i stand on this idea so i'll get out of your way and let you present your case to potential donors.

Thank you!

-t

 

[Napoleon's Shadow]

our "target audience" is not who you think.

The target audience are those who will likely be voting in the Republican primary.

So if we did really well and reached 40,000,000 people and got a 5% responce rate that followed through - yeah, that would only be an additional 2 million voters - wouldn't help at all

Have you read this? http://training4liberty.org/facl/important_info.html


Do you have any idea how expensive it is to get a message to 40,000,000 people?!? That would be a massive waste of money. Not to mention that you have to repeat the message to them multiple times before they act upon it.

And you are forgetting geography. We win the other states by coming in first in NH, NV, and LA, and also by taking top 3 in Iowa.

Last time we got ~8.3% of the vote and didn't win a single state. This time we are using traditional methods and are polling at 9% on average - yeah, we are really gonna win this way...

In September 2007, what were our polling numbers? 3%? I think we're doing great!

 

[erowe1]

So if we did really well and reached 40,000,000 people

40 million?

What are you going to do? Call the infomercial "The Series Finale of the Office"?

 

[MRK]

We absolutely need to reach an audience we aren't reaching now, and by that I mean senior citizens. The crosstabs on the polls show that he is failing with the seniors, and they're the demographic that;s most likely to vote. Telling them that he isn't going to take away their Social Security and Medicare is key, but appealing to their sense of family - ie: we need to protect your children and grandchildren from being subjected to this vote-buying fearmongering from the status quo, too.

Obviously someone needs to tone that down a little. OK, a lot.

Indeed. Paul wants to enhance the benefits of senior citizens' social security by preventing inflation which will make sure their checks buy more necessities instead of few.

Paul has more to offer than any other candidate for senior citizens by ensuring real sound money.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

The target audience are those who will likely be voting in the Republican primary.


Have you read this? http://training4liberty.org/facl/important_info.html


Do you have any idea how expensive it is to get a message to 40,000,000 people?!? That would be a massive waste of money. Not to mention that you have to repeat the message to them multiple times before they act upon it.

And you are forgetting geography. We win the other states by coming in first in NH, NV, and LA, and also by taking top 3 in Iowa.



In September 2007, what were our polling numbers? 3%? I think we're doing great!

Looking into how expensive - if done right and promoted - VERY good coverage!

Also looking at targeted coverage. My contact tells me that ads in that time period need to be set up NOW! if this is ging to happen - ie: major networks(s) and prime time for the Christmas holiday.

40 million?

What are you going to do? Call the infomercial "The Series Finale of the Office"?

No - Just promote it or make it so that they can't channel surf and not run into our program.

-t

 

[erowe1]

I would say, when it comes to estimating how much impact you can get for the amount spent, it's best to err on the low side. Estimate the least number of viewers you think you can expect, and figure the cost per viewer based on that number, and then decide if that would be a good deal or not, knowing that you could count on the actual results to be that good or better.

For comparison, the Obama infomercial was run a week before the general election, when public interest was at its very peak. And it got 33 million viewers.

I'm sorry to say, but I think the notion of getting more viewers than that for an infomercial for a candidate for one of the party's nominations before the primaries have started is not realistic, no matter what you do to market it.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I would say, when it comes to estimating how much impact you can get for the amount spent, it's best to err on the low side. Estimate the least number of viewers you think you can expect, and figure the cost per viewer based on that number, and then decide if that would be a good deal or not, knowing that you could count on the actual results to be that good or better.

For comparison, the Obama infomercial was run a week before the general election, when public interest was at its very peak. And it got 33 million viewers.

I'm sorry to say, but I think the notion of getting more viewers than that for an infomercial for a candidate for one of the party's nominations before the primaries have started is not realistic, no matter what you do to market it.

Reasonable counter.

OK, so viewership might be high, but as you stated, 33% - WOW! - that is way over my 5%!

10% could be reasonable - depending on the skill of the show production. We could still be pretty good w/ half of the audience.

Just saying. This is worth it!

-t

 

[erowe1]

Reasonable counter.

OK, so viewership might be high, but as you stated, 33% - WOW! - that is way over my 5%!

10% could be reasonable - depending on the skill of the show production. We could still be pretty good w/ half of the audience.

Just saying. This is worth it!

-t

That was 33 million viewers for Obama, which is lower than your 40 million for Paul. I don't know how that translates into number of supporters won over. My recollection was that pundits thought Obama probably didn't get much return on his investment for that.

 

[trey4sports]

Why was Napoleon banned?

 

[erowe1]

Why was Napoleon banned?

I noticed that too. I wonder if it has to do with using two different accounts. I noticed posts from both of them minutes apart. And the other one hasn't been banned. But this is just speculation.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

How would RP afford this? Obama did it, but Obama had a shitstorm of corporate cash swirling around. Regardless, this would be incredible. No Brian Williamses or Chris Wallaces to warp the good doctor's message.