Ron Paul, Buy a 15 Minute Block Of TV Time. Subvert The MSM! Speak To The People!

[Napoleon's Shadow]

NO. I went door to door to EVERY house in my area! When we distributed campaign newspapers - yeah - supplies were restricted so we limited those to republicans. Slim Jims are cheap.

This year?

NONE, ZERO, NADA!

-t

Why not? Don't you want Ron to win?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Recall Obama's infomercial before he was elected.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/10/obama_price_tag_25_mil_for_net.php

We could do this for just under $900 million on one network, just under $2 million on two. It's just a matter of whether the campaign would be willing to do it. They might argue that at this point in the campaign, it would mean very little. Don't forget, the people running the campaign -- at least as far as we know, are professionals. They're going to have a much, much better idea of strategy in terms of political campaigns than most if not all people on this forum. If I had to take a guess, I'd say this sort of "infomercial" would be best right before the first caucus or primary -- Iowa, I believe? It would probably be best then as opposed to now.

You are thinking about doing this the dumb way - massive repeats of the most expensive way to broadcast. We could do short ads hyping a couple of showings. That's the smart way. 20 second ads. Then the half hour thing w/ at least one followup. 45K to do it really right? To hell with 1-2M!

It's the way major movies come out - lots of promotion. Make them come to you and if they missit - well point them at YouTube.

-t

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

This year?

Why not? Don't you want Ron to win?

No last cycle. I've introduced all my neighbors to him last cycle and people do not move from tis neighborhood often. Waste of time.

I've done a lot more outreach. Including running an early Meetup.

I have a odd voice - birth defect. I make a lousy telemarketer.

-t

 

[AgentOrange]

IMO, $2,000,00 would be better spent hiring people to go knock on doors of Registered Republican voters & given them a Ron Paul hat or T-shirt, tell them about Ron Paul, and arrange for them to get a ride to their voting precinct (if needed.) This would yield better results than a TV ad.

Even so, I would donate to a TV ad if the campaign wanted to go that route, but I think the money would be better spent.

 

[trey4sports]

Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

No, the only chance we have for electoral victory is to convert Republicans who will be voting / caucusing in the primaries this upcoming cycle.

If we identify them, segment them based upon which issues are important to them, and then target them with issue specific information, then yes we can win this thing.

So have you gone door-to-door to every likely Republican voter in your precinct yet? How many phone calls have you made from the campaign's phone-from-home system?

+rep

I agree that if we want to win we will have to do it via traditional GOP voters. As much as some may want to reinvent the wheel of politics, it simply isn't going to happen.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

IMO, $2,000,00 would be better spent hiring people to go knock on doors of Registered Republican voters & given them a Ron Paul hat or T-shirt, tell them about Ron Paul, and arrange for them to get a ride to their voting precinct (if needed.) This would yield better results than a TV ad.

Even so, I would donate to a TV ad if the campaign wanted to go that route, but I think the money would be better spent.

I've done door to door knocking as a paid position. On a REALLY good day and getting blown off a lot that = 20 doors an hour. So how much are you paying an hour? And you want to give out $4 hats or $8 T's at each address. hmmmm lets do the math...

vs a TV ad that could reach hundreds of millions of people. Say with a 0.5 responce rate... now which would be more profitable... from a campaign standpoint? Do the math!

-t

 

[trey4sports]

Recall Obama's infomercial before he was elected.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/10/obama_price_tag_25_mil_for_net.php

We could do this for just under $900 million on one network, just under $2 million on two. It's just a matter of whether the campaign would be willing to do it. They might argue that at this point in the campaign, it would mean very little. Don't forget, the people running the campaign -- at least as far as we know, are professionals. They're going to have a much, much better idea of strategy in terms of political campaigns than most if not all people on this forum. If I had to take a guess, I'd say this sort of "infomercial" would be best right before the first caucus or primary -- Iowa, I believe? It would probably be best then as opposed to now.

DAMN, i think the 2-network-deal is the better value

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I think someone made a typo....

 

[trey4sports]

IMO, $2,000,00 would be better spent hiring people to go knock on doors of Registered Republican voters & given them a Ron Paul hat or T-shirt, tell them about Ron Paul, and arrange for them to get a ride to their voting precinct (if needed.) This would yield better results than a TV ad.

Even so, I would donate to a TV ad if the campaign wanted to go that route, but I think the money would be better spent.

I agree. If we had very very deep pockets i would support experimenting with an infomercial, but of all the election tactics an infomercial is one of the LEAST proven tactics at our disposal. Why funnel money into infomercials when we can utilize proven tactics like direct mail, door knocking, phone banking and other techniques that are proven to win elections?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

What did we spend last time on a blimp? - 1M

And we could raise and spend a 20th of that for an infomercial campaign.... with a LOT more nfo capability and probably reach more people....

Lemme think....

We don't do the "proven" - we do the out of the box! That's what makes us the r3volution!

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Now if he were going to buy time....it needs to be all about senior citizens. He already has the youth vote, he will *never* get the neocon vote. At this point, he needs to be focusing on the senior citizen vote. These people are the most likely to vote, and the least likely to be familiar with him. My opinion, he needs to focus on the concerns of senior citizens, and how his proposals will enhance their lives. Foreign policy is part of that, but he needs to focuse more on how ending military actions will free up money to save/reform social security/medicare. He needs to focus on his excellent health (I have heard many senior citizens I know personally, say they won't vote for Ron Paul because they don't think someone of his age has the "stamina" to be president.) Whatever issues are concerning the average senior citizen Republican, these are the issues that Ron Paul needs to be addressing.

^^ This. We need to get the Senior vote.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

^^ This. We need to get the Senior vote.

We sure as hell don't have it now - they all think he wants to take their SS away. And Medicare.

 

[LawnWake]

Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

No, the only chance we have for electoral victory is to convert Republicans who will be voting / caucusing in the primaries this upcoming cycle.

If we identify them, segment them based upon which issues are important to them, and then target them with issue specific information, then yes we can win this thing.

So have you gone door-to-door to every likely Republican voter in your precinct yet? How many phone calls have you made from the campaign's phone-from-home system?

Except this never happened before in the American presidentials elections so history is irrelevant. The conditions of these elections are rather unique, having voted in a president who ran on a platform of change but hasn't gone through with it, having a frontrunner candidate with crossparty appeal who offers something radically different from the others. We're in the position to CREATE likely Republican voters with a 30 minute, scripted interview on primetime television. That's the thing. Tell the kids that he will save the economic system from collapse for the future and tell the elderly that the country is going broke and only cutting spending overseas can help them get their entitlements now and his chances will skyrocket.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Except this never happened before in the American presidentials elections so history is irrelevant. The conditions of these elections are rather unique, having voted in a president who ran on a platform of change but hasn't gone through with it, having a frontrunner candidate with crossparty appeal who offers something radically different from the others. We're in the position to CREATE likely Republican voters with a 30 minute, scripted interview on primetime television. That's the thing. Tell the kids that he will save the economic system from collapse for the future and tell the elderly that the country is going broke and only cutting spending overseas can help them get their entitlements now and his chances will skyrocket.

^^^^THIS +rep!

 

[Morerockin]

The Ron Paul campaign doesn't have to do this. We could get RevolutionPAC to dot his

 

[LawnWake]

The Ron Paul campaign doesn't have to do this. We could get RevolutionPAC to dot his

Sure, but how do we establish who will do this? We need to do it quick.

As I said earlier in a post, my vote goes to; having a 30 minutes video, scripted (with teleprompter), cowritten by Tom Woods, with Ron Paul being interviewed by someone. I like Tom Woods a lot, but he would definitely have to tone down the cynicism and sarcasm. If anyone knows a better interview, that's cool too. An interview rather than a formal adress would make him more accessible, I think and having an interviewer ask questions from the audience's perspective would help bridge a gap.

We won't have to dedicate the entire 30 minutes on policy either. Obviously we would need a short introduction/montage on who he is, a tiny recap of the 2008 campaign (using snippets from 'For Liberty'?) and then dedicate the bulk on policy and close it off with his consistency, showing that he has been saying these things for 30 years, things that are being echoed by the establishment now.

Also like the idea of ads leading up to it.

Anyone down with that? We really need to get this going. Establish if we'll do it, who will do and how we'll do it. Funding shouldn't be an issue with some of the future money bombs.

We will need to do it fast, though.

 

[SilentBull]

I love this idea, but I don't think it should be about foreign policy alone. We have to take this opportunity to show everyone that Ron Paul predicted the economic crisis. Half of it could be about foreign policy, while the other half could be an explanation of what caused our crisis, how Ron Paul predicted it, and how he would get us out of it. Those two issues are the ones that set Paul apart the most. This could be huge!!

 

[AdamT]

What if it was like a "fireside chat", where he was surrounded with supporters? There there was a guy like Tom Woods or someone who had the mic and would pass it around for questions. Then Ron would answer them in a proper calm way. You could shoot it with a couple different cameras and cut it all together. Not hard.

Of course the questions would have to be loosely scripted so all the important topics were addressed. I think this could be really cool if done right.

 

[matt0611]

I love this idea, but I don't think it should be about foreign policy alone. We have to take this opportunity to show everyone that Ron Paul predicted the economic crisis. Half of it could be about foreign policy, while the other half could be an explanation of what caused our crisis, how Ron Paul predicted it, and how he would get us out of it. Those two issues are the ones that set Paul apart the most. This could be huge!!

Definitely not just foreign policy, has to be about economy and jobs as well of course. And Ron is awesome on the economy.

 

[Patriot123]

The Ron Paul campaign doesn't have to do this. We could get RevolutionPAC to dot his

Something tells me that would be against campaign finance laws. RevPAC can't use their money in any way in coordination with the campaign. It'd either be illegal, or on the fence.