Ron Paul Blimp - Need $71,575 by Monday!

The blimp was a grassroots idea. It is no longer grassroots. The decisions are made by a couple people on top of the company that do not care what the grassroots think. They just want their money.

Yes, but the grassroots have been very unrealistic. People expect the blimp to fly over games when clearly it takes months to get such clearance. They expect the crew who fly the ship (who are not ron paul supporters) to work on federal holidays. They expect the blimp to somehow ignore the weather problems that seem to have risen and fly it anyways.

We need to realize that carrying out such an operation is not easy. Yes, they could have been more upfront to us in the beginning, but much of the grassroots at the point was not listening and wanted to be at the Tea Party even though it was not possible. They did not lie to us. They told us that they hoped to be there for the Tea Party, but that weather issues could affect it. Was it their fault that the banner was delayed? No. Was it their fault that the weather grounded them? No. Was it their fault that the supporters had unrealistic goals? No.

The team who got the Blimp in the air should be commended for even attempting such a task, even if the road was bumpy. Point is, they got the blimp in the air. Did you?

So either support it and donate or leave us alone.
 
Yes, but the grassroots have been very unrealistic. People expect the blimp to fly over games when clearly it takes months to get such clearance. They expect the crew who fly the ship (who are not ron paul supporters) to work on federal holidays. They expect the blimp to somehow ignore the weather problems that seem to have risen and fly it anyways.

We need to realize that carrying out such an operation is not easy. Yes, they could have been more upfront to us in the beginning, but much of the grassroots at the point was not listening and wanted to be at the Tea Party even though it was not possible. They did not lie to us. They told us that they hoped to be there for the Tea Party, but that weather issues could affect it. Was it their fault that the banner was delayed? No. Was it their fault that the weather grounded them? No. Was it their fault that the supporters had unrealistic goals? No.

The team who got the Blimp in the air should be commended for even attempting such a task, even if the road was bumpy. Point is, they got the blimp in the air. Did you?

So either support it and donate or leave us alone.

I think the point was that you said that the funding of the blimp is 100% the responsibility of the grassroots. If that's true, then the blimp should bring in more grassroots donations as it flies. To answer your final question, yes, I have done my part to keep the blimp in the air.
 
I think the point was that you said that the funding of the blimp is 100% the responsibility of the grassroots. If that's true, then the blimp should bring in more grassroots donations as it flies. To answer your final question, yes, I have done my part to keep the blimp in the air.

Yes, I said that because we the grassroots created the blimp so we obviously should fund it.

And that question wasn't directed at you, but thank you for the support. What I meant by that question was that Elijah and Trevor were the people that actually got it into the air, something we all thought at the time would never happen. So people shouldn't be so quick to criticize them.
 
Yes, but the grassroots have been very unrealistic. People expect the blimp to fly over games when clearly it takes months to get such clearance. They expect the crew who fly the ship (who are not ron paul supporters) to work on federal holidays. They expect the blimp to somehow ignore the weather problems that seem to have risen and fly it anyways.

We need to realize that carrying out such an operation is not easy. Yes, they could have been more upfront to us in the beginning, but much of the grassroots at the point was not listening and wanted to be at the Tea Party even though it was not possible. They did not lie to us. They told us that they hoped to be there for the Tea Party, but that weather issues could affect it. Was it their fault that the banner was delayed? No. Was it their fault that the weather grounded them? No. Was it their fault that the supporters had unrealistic goals? No.

The team who got the Blimp in the air should be commended for even attempting such a task, even if the road was bumpy. Point is, they got the blimp in the air. Did you?

So either support it and donate or leave us alone.

I have been a big supporter of the blimp. I still am. But I think that you have your facts mistaken. You write "Yes, they could have been more upfront to us in the beginning, but much of the grassroots at the point was not listening and wanted to be at the Tea Party even though it was not possible. They did not lie to us. They told us that they hoped to be there for the Tea Party, but that weather issues could affect it. Was it their fault that the banner was delayed? No. Was it their fault that the weather grounded them? No. Was it their fault that the supporters had unrealistic goals? No."

In fact, it was the Blimp Team (not the grassroots) that said that if we made a certain deadline by a certain date they would make it to the teaparty. That same team said that they would be in New Hampshire through the primary. Maybe Trevor and Elijah were a bit naive, but the blimp owner (who is making the money off of these efforts) surely understood the difficulty of flying his blimp in the New England winter. Neverthless, it was the Blimp Team that used the Teaparty and New Hampshire to solicit investments. The Blimp Team created those unrealistic grassroot expecatations. Don't blame the consumers for falling for the deceptive marketing.

The Blimp Team could have easily marketed it as a way to win Florida and South Carolina. People may have rallied to it the way they did for OLFD. As for the football games, once again, it was the Blimp Team that placed the Captial One Bowl and NFL playoff game on their itinerary. Heck, until recently they even had scheduled a day for the TV crew to get on the blimp to prepare for the game. I suspect that they have known for several days that they would not be broadcasting those games. Yet, only today do we hear that they will be only allowed to do fly overs one hour before and after the game. Again, the grassroots did not create this unrealistic expectation, the blimp team did.

One final point. I think that Trevor and Elijah are "dreamers" who should be commended for creating a wonderful thing. I want it to succeed. The problem is that if you create unrealistic expectations, and then fail to meet those expectations, you lose credibility. And when you lose credibility, it is very difficult for people to give you more money.

All of that said, The Ron Paul Blimp can help us win Florida and do well in South Carolina. It could be the start of an OLFD of those two states. That is enough for me to donate more money. But enough already with all the false promises, deadlines, and attacks on people who ask legitimate business questions about questionable business practices. You do want people with money to donate right?
 
Yes, I said that because we the grassroots created the blimp so we obviously should fund it.

And that question wasn't directed at you, but thank you for the support. What I meant by that question was that Elijah and Trevor were the people that actually got it into the air, something we all thought at the time would never happen. So people shouldn't be so quick to criticize them.

My point was this: Grassroots supporters CANNOT fund the blimp indefinitely. It is the responsibility of the Blimp company to find alternate sources of funding. Yes, the blimp spawned from the grassroots, but it is THEIR company. And it is in their best interest to do everything in their power to keep the blimp afloat. They cannot continue to rely on the grassroots for funding.

I by no means meant to discourage anyone from donating to the blimp. I was just pointing out that this funding source is tapped as evident by the snail's crawl rate of donations over the past couple of weeks.
 
***BLIMP - $71, 575 needed to be raised by December 31st!***

$71, 575 needed to be raised by December 31st!
Keep the blimp flying the next month and a half! Go to RonPaulBlimp.com to sponsor the blimp now.
Needed funds to fly until Jan 18th = $400,000 total / $ 71,575 to go by December 31st.
Needed funds to fly until Feb 18th = $800,000 total / $471,575 to go..
What is the blimp worth?

According to media reports the first ten days of blimp flight generated a minimum of $500,000 in publicity. This puts us on track to garner 1.5 million in publicity per month before considering the blimps advertising value. When adding the advertising impact of the blimp (as a flying billboard for Ron Paul), our return rate puts us on par to generate over $2.5 million in advertising and publicity value per month on an investment of $400,000. That’s a 620% return on each dollar spent.

Our initial attempts to go north resulted in a fair amount of down time due to weather conditions. This effected the total amount of publicity and advertising value we could generate. By adjusting to our experiences in the coming weeks and months we should see a further increase in return on our investment. By heading south we intend to tap into professional sporting events, heavily populated shorelines, celebrity appearances, key political events and more.

The blimp is already an amazing investment and will only continue to improve. Please sponsor the blimp today and help us keep it in the air until February 18th, 2008.
 
The team who got the Blimp in the air should be commended for even attempting such a task, even if the road was bumpy. Point is, they got the blimp in the air. Did you?

I wasn't trying to get a blimp in the air. I was pointing out that it is not grassroots and you seem to agree with me; you just tried to change the subject.

So either support it and donate or leave us alone.

Get the hell out of the grassroots section and I will leave you alone. You have your own forum, go there. If you post here I'll keep annoying you with facts.
 
When they start answering the questions in the Q&A sub-forum, perhaps the donation rate will increase.
 
$71, 575 needed to be raised by December 31st!
Keep the blimp flying the next month and a half! Go to RonPaulBlimp.com to sponsor the blimp now.
Needed funds to fly until Jan 18th = $400,000 total / $ 71,575 to go by December 31st.
Needed funds to fly until Feb 18th = $800,000 total / $471,575 to go..
What is the blimp worth?

According to media reports (http://www.ronpaulblimp.com/MediaReportReference.php) the first ten days of blimp flight generated a minimum of $500,000 in publicity. This puts us on track to garner 1.5 million in publicity per month before considering the blimps advertising value. When adding the advertising impact of the blimp (as a flying billboard for Ron Paul), our return rate puts us on par to generate over $2.5 million in advertising and publicity value per month on an investment of $400,000. That’s a 620% return on each dollar spent.

Our initial attempts to go north resulted in a fair amount of down time due to weather conditions. This effected the total amount of publicity and advertising value we could generate. By adjusting to our experiences in the coming weeks and months we should see a further increase in return on our investment. By heading south we intend to tap into professional sporting events, heavily populated shorelines, celebrity appearances, key political events and more.

The blimp is already an amazing investment and will only continue to improve. Please sponsor the blimp today and help us keep it in the air until February 18th, 2008.
 
My point was this: Grassroots supporters CANNOT fund the blimp indefinitely. It is the responsibility of the Blimp company to find alternate sources of funding. Yes, the blimp spawned from the grassroots, but it is THEIR company. And it is in their best interest to do everything in their power to keep the blimp afloat. They cannot continue to rely on the grassroots for funding.

Not really their interests. The interests of the shareholders. The donors. Who loses if the target isn't reached? Those who invested.

The base of support for the blimp is massive and the money is there in spades. Therefore the blame has nothing to do with the grassroots.

All the blame goes to the organisers because it is their obligation to promote the blimp and maintain interest in it, which they completed failed to do. Perhaps they expected to fly over 5 new cities everyday, and if they had, they might have gotten away with it.

It could have all been so different. Done correctly, even with the current blimp's performance, they could be hitting half a million in donations by now.
 
They need a marketing strategy to acquire funds from non-grassroots support, which has been tapped.

I agree that they need a marketing strategy but I suspect that the grassroots are not "tapped". I think there are many people (like me) that are willing and able to donate to the blimp but are turned off by the many unfulfilled expectations.
 
Not really their interests. The interests of the shareholders. The donors. Who loses if the target isn't reached? Those who invested.

The base of support for the blimp is massive and the money is there in spades. Therefore the blame has nothing to do with the grassroots.

All the blame goes to the organisers because it is their obligation to promote the blimp and maintain interest in it, which they completed failed to do. Perhaps they expected to fly over 5 new cities everyday, and if they had, they might have gotten away with it.

It could have all been so different. Done correctly, even with the current blimp's performance, they could be hitting half a million in donations by now.

First, we're not shareholders or investors. We're consumers that have purchased advertising time. We have no stake in the company whatsoever. We indirectly benefit from the company's success by the promotion of Ron Paul. Ultimately, the success of the RP blimp is in the best interest of the company because they will (or hope to) exist after the election. They should be busting their butts to find new fundraising strategies to keep the blimp afloat (while promoting RP AND THEIR COMPANY) and maybe they are... I don't know, but I haven't seen it.

I'm in now way placing blame on the grassroots. We put that thing in the air! I'm just saying that the company needs to find new sources of money other than the grassroots. The grassroots money-well is tapped. If they can't come up with new ideas for fundraising, they should be coming to us. But I have yet to see them make the effort.
 
I agree that they need a marketing strategy but I suspect that the grassroots are not "tapped". I think there are many people (like me) that are willing and able to donate to the blimp but are turned off by the many unfulfilled expectations.

Agreed. I'm far from being "tapped".
 
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