Ron Paul Blimp - Need $71,575 by Monday!

Heads up in case you are a "blimp naysayer" - some things to be aware of:

mdevour said:

Your past behavior has shown that you will never be satisfied.

Your many questions will not ever be answered to your satisfaction.

By continuing to post your questions many times per day in every thread, regardless of topic...

YOU DEMONSTRATE YOUR DELIBERATE INTENTION TO SABOTAGE THE PROJECT.

You are undermining the efforts of volunteers and paid staff
THAT OTHER GRASSROOTS SUPPORTERS BESIDES YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO FUND AND SUPPORT!!!

And you are violating the stated policy of the forum administrators.

This isn't your project any more! Get over it!

Get the hell out of our way!

Get out of our forum!

Shut up about our project and our people!

And most important: Go support something else!


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=66831
 
The above posts I agree with somewhat because attacking projects you don't support isn't helpful. This is because by doing that your attempting to influence what people do with their money which shouldn't be done. I think constructive criticism is fine, but constantly posting negative things isn't fine. I don't support many projects but I know that others do so I wouldn't attack their project and hurt their efforts. What we need to do is let people choose to support what they want. Let people choose if what they will support, if you have criticism that's fine as long as your not trying to de-rail the efforts of those who do support this project.

Edit- Walt this should not be in the sub-forum for a good reason. The main page is meant for fund raising as many admins have stated, and that's what this is. If the admins thought it wasn't appropriate it would have been moved days ago.

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The project sub-forums are for planning and information. Grassroots Central can be used for announcements, recruiting and fundraising for that project. Basically if you aren't involved in a project you'll ignore the whole project sub-forum so that is why these things can go elsewhere.

One thread in Grassroot Central for a major project is fine. :)
 
Bump for the blimp. If you are sending money that is great, but also help out by bumping this thread so others can know the urgency of the situation. We can easily make this deadline set, but we need to keep attention to this fund raising effort.

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The blimp has served its purpose

It generated some media attention. What could the campaign do with all the money we're pouring into this blimp? Priorities people, priorities.
 
The biggest problem right now, is that over in the blimp section and the Q & A section there are lots of very serious concerns being discussed about the blimp, from the fact that no one is willing to state unequivocally that there new way of accepting "donations" is legal, that is a big one, to oh, I don't know you have to go there and read it all yourself. There are too many questions to repeat.

I agree the blimp team should be out in front on this, but I took a layman's look at the FEC regulations (available from the FEC website) and IMO even if the FEC declares the blimp to be a violation of campaign finance law and that individual contributors knowingly violated that law, based on my reading of the regulations the worst thing that can happen to you is a fine equivalent to double the amount you spent on the blimp, unless you spent more than $2000.

For my full analysis, see: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=66863
 
It generated some media attention. What could the campaign do with all the money we're pouring into this blimp? Priorities people, priorities.

That's a good question. I think the blimp has done a lot more than the campaign would do with it. Check the link below for details of how successful it has been estimated to be. On top of this imagine how much better it will be now that we are down south with much more flying time because of weather improvements. On top of that if this can fly over even 1 football game which is possible it would be amazing for us..

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Bump for the blimp. This blimp is the most revolutionary project the grassroots has came up with yet! We can get the funds neccesary easily if everyone unites behind the blimp. If you have another project you would rather fund that is completely understandable, but if you do support the blimp now is the time to make a stand to save the blimp. :)

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Ron Paul Blimpin'

friendly bump-bump-bump
to make this thread go up, up, up!
 
The blimp has arrived in Jacksonville, Florida! It should be at the rally shortly so if your nearby be sure to show up! Remember it's one of the biggest blimps in the world.. you don't want to miss this opportunity to see it.


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The blimp has arrived in Jacksonville, Florida! It should be at the rally shortly so if your nearby be sure to show up! Remember it's one of the biggest blimps in the world.. you don't want to miss this opportunity to see it.


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Wish the feed would come back on...a couple of 'timely new arrivals' showed at the blimp's 'JustinTV' chat forum, and have got everyone completely distracted from the Jacksonville rally. Hmmm...
 
Yeah, I hope it comes back up shortly. I assume that it will, but who knows. Fortunately, the blimp is on time to make it to the rally today ;)
For those who don't know it starts at 4pm eastern time.

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Instead of getting angry at folks for asking questions, how about getting angry at the blimp folks for not providing answers. They say they need money in three days and will get to answers in four. Things don't work that way. People don't usually part with their money unless they know what they are buying. It is the blimp team's actions that are hurting the blimp, not the people who ask reasonable questions.

For example:

1. What are they negotiating a settlement about, why have you been sued or whatever happened, what did happen, how much money is it costing you and is that money coming out of donations? Reasonable question one should get answered before donating to the blimp.

2. Are we paying for down time? If the blimp team's inexperience keeps trying to fly the blimp into places it physically cannot go due to weather and then they are forced to return to the hangar due to that error, that is something folks should know before paying this crew to run a blimp company. Reasonable question one should know before donating to the blimp.

3. Is it legal now that they have changed their advertising purchasing scheme to donate or whatever you want to call it, give money to the the blimp team, to keep this thing in the air? Reasonable question one should know before donating to what could be an illegal campaign contribution.

4. Can we get an accounting of how the money has been spent so far? Again, reasonable question one should get answered before donating to the blimp.

I can't think of others right now, but go to those other forums, go to the Q & A section that the blimp team refuses to even enter anymore.

I just thought of one.

5. Why won't you answer any questions? Again, a reasonable question one might have before donating to the blimp team.


You see, a lot of people on here with money are adults who have come and gone and seen all sorts of schemes in their lives that are not worthy of donations. They just want to know if this is an up front organization that is willing to tell folks what is going on, or are they going to hide everything and just ask us to trust them. If it is the latter, I am afraid you are going to have a very hard time getting any money for this project.

Worse yet, the team has not responded to any questions at all even though they promised to many many days ago. This kind of behavior leads to MIStrust and then people won't even give a penny.

So, go send emails to Trevor and company and yell at them. Ask them why they won't provide answers. But since they are all gone and will not be back for four days or so, as they themselves stated, you might have a hard time.

You are losing donations all over the place and it is NOT the fault of the donors. In fact, in one thread a guy offered the blimp team five thousand dollars, but all he wanted was a few answers - nothing outlandish. Nothing personal. No questions about their love lives, just questions about where his money was going and how it would be used. To date, the questions have been ignored.
 
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