Ron just owned Huckabee on Fox

[dfalken]

That Huckabee Christmas ad is another Arkansasian political game propaganda ploy and it is sure getting plenty of free air time on cable as "news"-

How about this old Huckabee Governor's Christmas Card ?

Geez...where did they park the trailer?

 

[Menthol Patch]

It was not getting personal. It was talking about his politics!

He was insulting Huckabee's family, race, background, or creed. He was making a statement about using a CROSS in a political advertisement!

This was NOT getting personal!

Huckabee is a FASCIST due to his POLITICS!

 

[Ninja Homer]

Listen to the YouTube carefully at around 1:18. It sounds like someone saying,

"cut it" or "kill it" in the background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4

Am I imagining it?

You aren't imagining it. I downloaded and looped the little segment of audio, and I'm 90% sure the mystery voice says, "cut it, go to commercial".

I have no idea how to isolate it. I don't have the "1-click automatic isolation" software like on CSI.

The interviewer stutters a bit right after you hear that other voice, like he's trying to think how he's going to change what he was going to say mid-sentence so he can go to commercial. Then he looks off camera to the right, where I'm sure somebody was frantically giving him the "cut it" sign.

If anybody is good with audio and knows how to cut out the other sounds, PM me your email address and I'll send you the mp3.

 

[kimosabi]

My god man, you do not even UNDERSTAND the point I am trying to make.

If Ron starts getting personal, he will not have a SHRED of a chance to get into whitehouse.

Why?

They will absolutely destroy him in retribution!

Did it ever occur to you why Ron has been invincible so far?

It's because he hasn't faultered on the delivery of the message and he refrained from getting personal. He himself has stated he doesn't like to get personal. That is the reason why he is in a league of his own.

If he gets personal, he destroys his competitive advantage and moral high ground.

You see, MSM is just itching for this type of opportunity to bury Ron with his own words and that my friend is the only thing that can destroy Ron.

So far he has navigated the political seas well, but this was a blunder any way you slice it.

I disagree, they will be terrified of the word Fascism, because when everyone goes and looks it up, they will realise that America is turning into a Fascist State...

He has now opened up the subject, so when he is confronted about this again, he can expand the subject.

Dr Paul has already educated the American people on Truth, Freedom and Liberty.

Now it's time for some education on Fascism...

 

[traitorist]

You see, MSM is just itching for this type of opportunity to bury Ron with his own words and that my friend is the only thing that can destroy Ron.

So far he has navigated the political seas well, but this was a blunder any way you slice it.

you give the old media too much credit. if they want a fight, Ron Paul can handle these goons. you underestimate the political savvy of Ron Paul. this man has testicles of steel. he has consistently defended his positions well, and will continue to do so.

 

[JDeVriese]

Relax guys, Ron didn't call anyone a fascist. Saying he did is something the MSM would do. lol

Remember; these were Sinclair Lewis' words, not his.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

Ron said exactly what needed to be said.

An even more important goal than the White House is spreading the message and exposing the neo-con agenda.

RP is not going to withhold or dilute the truth from sensitive people.

This isn't a political campaign, capiche?

 

[xtravar]

My god man, you do not even UNDERSTAND the point I am trying to make.

If Ron starts getting personal, he will not have a SHRED of a chance to get into whitehouse.

Why?

They will absolutely destroy him in retribution!

Did it ever occur to you why Ron has been invincible so far?

It's because he hasn't faultered on the delivery of the message and he refrained from getting personal.

He himself has stated he doesn't like to get personal.

That is the reason why he is in a league of his own.

If he gets personal, he destroys his competitive advantage and moral high ground.

You see, MSM is just itching for this type of opportunity to bury Ron with his own words and that my friend is the only thing that can destroy Ron.

So far he has navigated the political seas well, but this was a blunder any way you slice it.

Personally, I think that it was a well-placed attack and it gets him a good dose of publicity.

Paul has gotten personal on other occasions... and much worse. He is a politician after all, and he does know how to get elected.

Read this story.

On the morning of the runoff election, Gammage got an early dose of a tactic that, 30 years later, would become known as "swift boating." Gammage says he was jolted out of bed by a radio ad from the Paul campaign that featured a blood-curdling scream.

"The next thing I heard was this sweet girl's little voice saying, 'I hope my daddy and mommy don't vote for Bob Gammage, 'cause he wants to turn the rapists and murders loose to attack us in our beds. I hope my mommy and daddy vote for Ron Paul. He wants to put them in jail where they belong,'" Gammage recalls with a laugh.

 

[Mark Rushmore]

Did it ever occur to you why Ron has been invincible so far?

It's because he hasn't faultered on the delivery of the message and he refrained from getting personal.

If he gets personal, he destroys his competitive advantage and moral high ground.

I myself tend to lose sight of objective realities and the end-goal when I spend this much time focused on tactical close-combat, so I can see where you are coming from. But as much as we are focused on this campaign to get Ron elected - we should never conflate his campaign with his message.

Ron has been invincible because his message is truth, his presentation is accurate, and he rests it all on the Constitution. His competitive advantage stems from these same facts plus a 30 year history of personal integrity that leaves his credibility on these positions unassailable.

Calling a spade a spade will never change these simple underlying points.

If he hadn't taken the question directly and responded as best he felt, then he would truly be making a blunder by showing a crack in the truth-to-power, honesty-at-all-costs, word-is-bond presence that only he amongst candidates can claim.

He didn't go off on a tangent to attack anyone personally, that half-retarded overly made-up individual hijacked the TeaParty conversation to interject that bit and directly question Ron on his response.

Ron in turned answered - and answered well.

 

[Ron2Win]

My god man, you do not even UNDERSTAND the point I am trying to make.

It's not about talking about fascism in general, its about tying fascism to a particular person.

That is extremely insulting. Huckabee is not ideal by any means (I wouldn't vote for him in 100000 years),
but calling him a fascist is 100% certain to inflame the situation and cause some blowback.

So far Ron did not have any legitimate blowback, only manufactured attacks and believe me there is a
world of difference between the two due to the vastly different amount of conviction they carry.

Let me make my view clear: If Ron starts getting personal, he will not have a SHRED of a chance to get into whitehouse.

Why?

They (MSM+CFR Candidates) will absolutely destroy him in retribution!

Did it ever occur to you why Ron has been invincible so far?

It's because he hasn't faultered on the delivery of the message and he refrained from getting personal.

He himself has stated he doesn't like to get personal.

That is the reason why he is in a league of his own.

If he gets personal, he destroys his competitive advantage and moral high ground.

You see, MSM is just itching for this type of opportunity to bury Ron with his own words and that my friend is the only thing that can destroy Ron.

So far he has navigated the political seas well, but this was a blunder any way you slice it.

He didn't say Huckabee = Facist. We are implying that.

He attacked the message and NOT the messenger.

Do not get this confused

 

[TheEvilDetector]

I disagree, they will be terrified of the word Fascism, because when everyone goes and looks it up, they will realise that America is turning into a Fascist State...

He has now opened up the subject, so when he is confronted about this again, he can expand the subject.

Dr Paul has already educated the American people on Truth, Freedom and Liberty.

Now it's time for some education on Fascism...

This is the problem, when people think they are invincible.

Yes Paul is gaining, but believe me he is NOT bullet proof.

He has been doing well, because all attacks against him are manufactured.

However, if real blowback occurs, Ron will have his work cut out for him.

You guys have to understand, Ron has had very smooth sailing because everyone knows everything they put on him is invented and spun. The truth in his message cuts through that.

However, human nature dictates that when things get personal, things get ugly and I really do not want to see that.

 

[RevolutionSD]

That was good. That host didn't know what to do.

RP looks like he has a cold again dammit!

 

[Menthol Patch]

Check out this article about Sinclair Lewis book, "Can it happen here?"

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/09/far04030.html

In 1935, Sinclair Lewis penned the cautionary tale, It Can’t Happen Here, chronicling the fictional rise of Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip, who becomes President against the protests of Franklin D. Roosevelt and America’s saner citizens.

A charismatic Senator who claims to champion the common man, Windrip is in the pocket of big business (i.e. Corpos), is favored by religious extremists, and though he talks of freedom and prosperity for all, he eventually becomes the ultimate crony capitalist. Boosted by Hearst newspapers (the FOX News of its day), he neuters both Congress and the Supreme Court, before stripping people of their liberties and installing a fascist dictatorship.

 

[TheEvilDetector]

Ron said exactly what needed to be said.

An even more important goal than the White House is spreading the message and exposing the neo-con agenda.

RP is not going to withhold or dilute the truth from sensitive people.

This isn't a political campaign, capiche?

This is a political campaign.

What do you want Ron to do?

Label the other candidates traitors to the republic?

Technically they ALL are and since you want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, why don't you urge Ron to just flat out say they are all traitors to the republic?

You see there is a difference between pushing your own message and getting personal against other candidates.

Ron has always made it clear earlier that he doesn't like to get personal. I deeply respect him for that.

I am one of those supporters that very much hopes he maintains that stance right to the end.

I hope he wins based on the goodness in his message, not because he labelled other candidates or implied a label.

Ron can easily win on his message alone and I sincerely believe that.

 

[pikerz]

I myself tend to lose sight of objective realities and the end-goal when I spend this much time focused on tactical close-combat, so I can see where you are coming from. But as much as we are focused on this campaign to get Ron elected - we should never conflate his campaign with his message.

Ron has been invincible because his message is truth, his presentation is accurate, and he rests it all on the Constitution. His competitive advantage stems from these same facts plus a 30 year history of personal integrity that leaves his credibility on these positions unassailable.

Calling a spade a spade will never change this simple underlying points.

If he hadn't taken the question directly and responded as best he felt, then he would truly be making a blunder by showing a crack in the truth-to-power, honesty-at-all-costs, word-is-bond presence that only he amongst candidates can claim.

He didn't go off on a tangent to attack anyone personally, that half-retarded overly made-up individual hijacked the TeaParty conversation to interject that bit and directly question Ron on his response.

Ron in turned answered - and answered well.

Totally agree.

Fox actually stands to lose if they turn it into a talking point. They will absolutely force themselves into looking like complete asses, and lose a fat chunk of their viewership in the process.

 

[Jimmy]

Maybe its just me....but do you think Ron Paul came up with that quote on the spot...or he was planning to work that in somehow whenever giving the slightest chance? Seems to me he didn't have to struggle to recall the quote at all.....like he was cocked and ready.... Maybe I just need some more coffee :o

 

[InRonWeTrust]

Minister Huck just got served.

 

[Birdlady]

This is the problem, when people think they are invincible.

Yes Paul is gaining, but believe me he is NOT bullet proof.

He has been doing well, because all attacks against him are manufactured.

However, if real blowback occurs, Ron will have his work cut out for him.

You guys have to understand, Ron has had very smooth sailing because everyone knows everything they put on him is invented and spun. The truth in his message cuts through that.

However, human nature dictates that when things get personal, things get ugly and I really do not want to see that.

Ron Paul has been a doormat these past few months. I think he needed to start defending himself and throwing these stupid questions back in their face.

What do you think RP should have said as an answer to the question.
Here's the exact question.
"We had a guest a little while ago, that said he thought it was inappropriate to be using religion for political purposes, Congressman I am just curious what you think?"

Here was Ron's complete response:

"Well [clears throat], I haven't thought about it completely, but you know it reminds me of what Sinclair Lewis once said, He said when [slight laugh] fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross. Now I don't know whether thats a [slight laugh] fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian or implying that subtlety. So I don't think I would ever use anything like that."

 

[dfalken]

If the media tries to harp on that statement it will be great for Ron Paul and it will raise questions about Huckabee. Even people who don't support Ron Paul if they know anything about him know he is a straight shooter and means what he says and says what he means. McCain called him the most honest man in congress. I am praying the media tries to discredit him because of that quote...this is what we need to get him over the hump.

 

[RadioDJforPaul]

Let's hope this doesn't ruin Dr. Paul's campaign.

Some of you guys make me want to puke. Look at all this negative crap coming out from EVERYONE. You seriously think that Ron making one comment like this is going to kill his campaign. Sadly, campaigns thrive off of this kind of crap. Some of you need to wake up to the real world of politics.