Romney's Illinois chairman takes Ron Paul sign out and throws it down

[axiomata]

Piss off monkey boy. You cannot just throw insults at me without getting blowback, passive aggressively couched though those insults may be..

Who is throwing insults? It certainly is not I.

 

[max]

i wasnt denigrating women and I have the utmost respect for their God given roles as caretakers and nurturers.

My point is, that for reasons having to do with nature as well as nurture, women will generally gravite towrads, and be more vulnerable towards, the statist demagogues who offer to care for us from cradle to grave.

And in the case of the millions of single moms out there, the state actually becomes "the husband." I'm not blaming women for having these impulses to be secure and protected...They have every right to expect that from the men in their lives.

The danger as I see it, is that this natural impulse, when misdirecetd by statists, paves the road for socialism.

It also prevenets us from fighting political wars as men. We have to walk on egg shells when calling a dirty lying scumbag a dirty lying scumbag. We are forced to tone our anger down for fear of alienating (or scaring away) voters. This provides protective cover for the criminal elites. And who are these so easily frightened voters that we have to tip toe around?..generally females.

Because we have to tread carefully, traitors and criminals cannot be called traitors and criminals. In all fairness, given what I call the wussification of the American male, today's "men" are also part of the problem

 

[Gee]

Some good insight there. I am curious to know what things you see have made us "more free" over the years?? I know slavery is one such damning blot. But I am of the opinion that systematically things have continually evolved the opposite direction and I can't think of where we have gained much if anything...in fact I would be of the opinion that we have to get "permission" for a great majority of what is done privately today.

Mostly civil rights for women, blacks, immigrants, gays, etc. Yeah, it sucks to have to get a permit to buy a house, but that beats getting lynched and hung by an angry mob with little chance of justice, doesn't it?

I also while recognizing that if voting was contained to land owners we would see a different gov. do recognize that most of the federal laws passed are done so by a vast majority of male congressmen.

It would probably be even more slanted in favor of the rich than it already is. A healthy economy needs social mobility, something which has been reduced lately. We replaced laws which kept people back due to their race or gender with laws which keep people back in more subtle ways. The cost imposed by regulation is mostly uniform across the poor and rich, small or large businesses. It almost always hits the little guy harder. Not to mention the Fed...

 

[The Good Doctor]

I don't know has this been verified to be him? I looked him up on the web this guy standing on the sign looks a little more rough than the clean cut guy I saw. If it is true then shame on him. And the tape tells the tale. He should be mocked out of Romney's campaign.

Lol, Romney's campaign chairman is a tool. Look at the anger in his face.

 

[axiomata]

I don't know has this been verified to be him? I looked him up on the web this guy standing on the sign looks a little more rough than the clean cut guy I saw. If it is true then shame on him. And the tape tells the tale. He should be mocked out of Romney's campaign.

The guy on the sign is not Rutherford, the state senator and Romney Illinois chairman, it is one of his thugs.

 

[Gee]

The danger as I see it, is that this natural impulse, when misdirecetd by statists, paves the road for socialism.

And the natural impulses of men pave the way for war.

 

[max]

And the natural impulses of men pave the way for war.

I cant argue with that. We are a bloodthirsty gender. So if women voters spawn socialism, and men voters spawn war, the ideal system would have been for the founders to set themselves up as a self perpetuating Council of Elders with Washingtom as King and his successors to be chosen by the elders.

Thats what Plato envisioned in his Republic.

It seems that whenever the inmates (voters) are allowed to choose the asylum leader..it always deteriorates into socialism , endless wars, and currency collapse.

So perhaps it is suffrage altogether ..this "right" to vote, that is the problem. Maybe the vote should be restricted to the top 20% in IQ who can pass a rigorouse exam on free market economics and philosophy.

What we have now is ludicrous. Any moron with a birth cerftificate gets to have a say in running my life and determining the course of civilization. Look what it has gotten us?

 

[SlapItHigh]

My point is, that for reasons having to do with nature as well as nurture, women will generally gravite towrads, and be more vulnerable towards, the statist demagogues who offer to care for us from cradle to grave.

Flawed logic again. If many women gravitate towards men who are strong and able to protect and financially support a family that is one thing. Wanting a statist demagogue in political power is completely different. In fact, it is actually contradictary. I think you do realize that which is why you brought up the single mother thing because a women doesn't want two of the same when one can overpower the other. This situation only makes the slightest bit of sense when it comes to single mothers...even then you are reaching.

What about the fact that a large percentage of men these days are not physically capable of being a good protector, are not bringing in a good income, etc? Does a statist demagogue not give them an incentive to not perform their manly duties when someone else can take care of their family from cradle to grave? Perhaps more incentive than women have to want the same?

 

[fj45lvr]

Mostly civil rights for women, blacks, immigrants, gays, etc. Yeah, it sucks to have to get a permit to buy a house, but that beats getting lynched and hung by an angry mob with little chance of justice, doesn't it?

This is kind of funny...as a student of the 1848-1860 era gold rush out west there were many examples of "mob" mentality but it is a known fact that people left their gold and possessions right on the table and there was little theft...it might of had to do with people showing a greater deal of respect then or maybe the fear of the consequences....it is ironic that they would not steal but had no problem denegrating an indian, chinamen, or mexican.

The civil rights are a good thing but that is a fraction of the beast that has been created whereas with a multitude of laws you lose respect for them all.

It would probably be even more slanted in favor of the rich than it already is. ...

I disagree with that assumption....I think alot of the problems we face politically are from uneducated, ignorant, or welfare state members voting....I am actually comforted that less than 50% of the populous vote because it would scare me to see what this mass would do (based on seeing the kind of advertising that marketeers use to "sell" today)... but then again I do believe that the "dumbing down" of America is an unfortunate reality...my great grandparents were educated to 5th grade on the prarie and knew more than many quote unquote "educated" (or indoctrinated) we have today.

 

[max]

[*************************If many women gravitate towards men who are strong and able to protect and financially support a family that is one thing. Wanting a statist demagogue in political power is completely different. In fact, it is actually contradictary. I think you do realize that which is why you brought up the single mother thing because a women doesn't want two of the same when one can overpower the other. This situation only makes the slightest bit of sense when it comes to single mothers...even then you are reaching.****************************

The proof is in the pudding. Most women vote democrat. And those that vote Republican favor the so-called "moderates." When a guy who wants to dismantle the nanny state comes along...WOMEN VOTERS FLEE IN DROVES.

Buchanan did poorly with GOP women, as Goldwater was trounced by LBJ among women voters. When the media starts attacking Ron Paul for "throwing people into the streets" or shutting down Dept of Education, Homeland Security etc...He's gonna have a hard time with frieghtened females (and feminized men as well)

By the way, I dont think too highly of the beer guzzling - sports crazed male voter either. I could do a whole other socoilogical/psychological profile dealing with the subject of childhood based male insecurity manifesting itself in the form of warmongering.

 

[The Good Doctor]

All right people! Let's do something worth a shit and get over to the campaign headquarters web site and get some money for Ron Paul's birthday card! I dropped some in last night.

Let this rhetoric die. It was an incident that could have been worse. It will be forgotten as we continue to rank high in and win other straw polls.

The best thing we can do is support Ron Paul when we can and get him some cash so that he can have a hell of a third quarter showing so his campaign can gather steam!

It's the message! Focus on that! We don't need to have any divisions in the ranks! We need a unified front!

 

[SlapItHigh]

The proof is in the pudding. Most women vote democrat.

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[Revolution9]

I'm glad to hear you don't go to republican straw polls and shove signs in people's faces and shout over the top of their talking too.....Good Job Randy, maybe you do have some class and respect.

How lovngly smarmy of you to say so. Perhaps it would have been more congruent to apologize for the broad brush you stroked.judged/categorized into stereotyped formed by MSM/insulted Ron's supporters with.

Best
Randy

 

[Gee]

The civil rights are a good thing but that is a fraction of the beast that has been created whereas with a multitude of laws you lose respect for them all.

Well, thats true. People don't respect the law, but they do mostly still respect property rights and liberty. Discrimination based on race or gender has been replaced with discrimination based on acts in the economy.

I disagree with that assumption....I think alot of the problems we face politically are from uneducated, ignorant, or welfare state members voting....I am actually comforted that less than 50% of the populous vote because it would scare me to see what this mass would do (based on seeing the kind of advertising that marketeers use to "sell" today)... but then again I do believe that the "dumbing down" of America is an unfortunate reality...my great grandparents were educated to 5th grade on the prarie and knew more than many quote unquote "educated" (or indoctrinated) we have today.

True... I suppose the people who you don't want voting are ones that vote in order to use state coercion to exploit his or her fellow Americans. The problem is that these people seem to come from all walks of life. Socialism wasn't first championed by the lower classes, much of this stuff starts with so-called intellectuals (who often either ignore or make up reasons for ignoring economics). The big problem is that people are willing to use the law to commit acts they would never dream of committing themselves. The legitimacy of state-initiated violence is what needs to be exposed for the hypocrisy it is.

Correlation does not imply causation.

The most insightful comment yet, and not from a male. Besides, nanny states have existed before women's suffrage. Roman emperors would give out charity from the public treasury in order to legitimize their reigns, and it is part of what bankrupted them.

 

[Nefertiti]

I cant argue with that. We are a bloodthirsty gender. So if women voters spawn socialism, and men voters spawn war,

As a woman, I have a bit of insight into how women "fight." Chances are if Hillary becomes president we might see a smaller less aggressive military but chances are we will see a blossoming of the CIA and other related agencies as well as covert operations of various sorts. Women aren't so in your face but they will engage in stealth tactics of quiet revenge.

 

[Horatio_Bunce]

This episode just goes to show that certain individuals only believe in coersion and force.

Senator Rutherford should be ashamed.

 

[loupeznik]

Remember the Maine!

 

[Ira Aten]

Ron Paul won the New Hampshire Straw Poll by a landslide.
It was 74 percent for RP.

He also won Alabama on the same day, August 17th.

...Now, on to Texas!

(Insert Howard Dean Braying Mule sound bite here)

 

[jeremycobert]

has anyone posted this guys webpage yet ? if not here it is. assuming this is the same Dan Rutherford. its hard to tell from the video with that pouting look on his face.

www.DanRutherford.org
or
http://www.danrutherford.com/

and Illinois residents, be sure to vote in Dans little straw poll. i would love to see the look on his face as the RP votes landslide his boy Romney!!!

http://danrutherford.cmititestbank.com/2008PresPrimary/vote.asp

 

[Ira Aten]

I think I messed up.
I don't live in Illinois. I accidentally voted for Ron Paul in his little poll thingie.
Don't know if it registered or not, it just said "Thank You" for voting.

But the results aren't on there. I didn't realize he was only wanting Illinois voters.

My bad.