Romney/Paul friendship

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Does anyone (other than a few) think that Ron and Mitt's friendship extends beyond Romney letting Ron stay at his house when his flight was delayed? Some here seem to think that Ron has thrown away everything he has ever fought for and is spending your money to help Mitt Romney (someone who is the opposite of him on almost every issue) win or get himself a VP slot which (at least to me) seems impossible to believe. What is your opinion?
 
Does anyone (other than a few) think that Ron and Mitt's friendship extends beyond Romney letting Ron stay at his house when his flight was delayed? Some here seem to think that Ron has thrown away everything he has ever fought for and is spending your money to help Mitt Romney (someone who is the opposite of him on almost every issue) win or get himself a VP slot which (at least to me) seems impossible to believe. What is your opinion?

Ron Paul disavowed Reagan after some things he did.

Romney supports the NDAA.

Do you honestly expect that Ron Paul would do that to Reagan, but not Romney?
 
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It's ironic that many on these boards critisize Ron for not being a smart politician, and for once he is being politically smart and people bash him for being friends with Romney. I think its a smart political move. I think Ron should keep doing things like this. Maybe Rand has encouraged it. who knows. Lets face it..... odds are that Romney is the Nominee.(77% chance on intrade) Getting close to him is not a bad idea.
 
As if we didn't debunk this good enough in the Santorum thread, have you read the MNBC thread below this now?

After the media's done nothing but fabricate things about Paul, and now they're pushing this "alliance" to detract from the merits of the ad? I'm not sure why anyone would ever believe anything that comes out of their mouths at this point. Just blatant lies to try to take down Ron with Romney.
 
Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to despise someone just because you disagree with their policies. We could all learn a lot more from the good Dr.
 
My view on this is likely in the minority but if our options run out for the nomination I honestly would be so happy to see our message turn into actual reform rather than put up tough fight and not get anything from it. It would be a tough pill to swallow because Romney embodies a lot of what I hate about our system but I'd be kidding myself to say I wouldn't fight till the end for ANY presidential ticket with Dr. Paul's name on it.
 
The reality that most here miss is that Ron has far more patience than most of us young'uns. He's been fighting for 40 years to make small gains for the cause of liberty, and he's done it largely by working within the system while still holding onto his principles.

If Romney offers some REAL opportunity to advance the cause of liberty (and I have no idea what that opportunity could possibly be), to Ron that's a meaningful offer put on the table. To us, we have a tendency to confuse "not compromising principles" with "not compromising on your demands."

I think history may reveal that Ron Paul and his supporters are not necessarily as much on the same page as it seems. And if that's the case, it's not Ron Paul's fault, it's his supporters', for seeing in him what they want to see instead of what actually is. Sort of like how if Ron doesn't get the nomination and doesn't run third party, the faction of RP supporters who have it in their heads that "OF COURSE he will run third party if he doesn't get the nomination!" may be in for a sobering reality when Ron does exactly what he's been saying over and over again, which is to not run third party.

Personally I think Ron's friendship/alliance with Romney could very well work out in a positive way.
 
The reality that most here miss is that Ron has far more patience than most of us young'uns. He's been fighting for 40 years to make small gains for the cause of liberty, and he's done it largely by working within the system while still holding onto his principles.

If Romney offers some REAL opportunity to advance the cause of liberty (and I have no idea what that opportunity could possibly be), to Ron that's a meaningful offer put on the table. To us, we have a tendency to confuse "not compromising principles" with "not compromising on your demands."

I think history may reveal that Ron Paul and his supporters are not necessarily as much on the same page as it seems. And if that's the case, it's not Ron Paul's fault, it's his supporters', for seeing in him what they want to see instead of what actually is. Sort of like how if Ron doesn't get the nomination and doesn't run third party, the faction of RP supporters who have it in their heads that "OF COURSE he will run third party if he doesn't get the nomination!" may be in for a sobering reality when Ron does exactly what he's been saying over and over again, which is to not run third party.

Personally I think Ron's friendship/alliance with Romney could very well work out in a positive way.

You nailed it.
 
The reality that most here miss is that Ron has far more patience than most of us young'uns. He's been fighting for 40 years to make small gains for the cause of liberty, and he's done it largely by working within the system while still holding onto his principles.

If Romney offers some REAL opportunity to advance the cause of liberty (and I have no idea what that opportunity could possibly be), to Ron that's a meaningful offer put on the table. To us, we have a tendency to confuse "not compromising principles" with "not compromising on your demands."

I think history may reveal that Ron Paul and his supporters are not necessarily as much on the same page as it seems. And if that's the case, it's not Ron Paul's fault, it's his supporters', for seeing in him what they want to see instead of what actually is. Sort of like how if Ron doesn't get the nomination and doesn't run third party, the faction of RP supporters who have it in their heads that "OF COURSE he will run third party if he doesn't get the nomination!" may be in for a sobering reality when Ron does exactly what he's been saying over and over again, which is to not run third party.

Personally I think Ron's friendship/alliance with Romney could very well work out in a positive way.

No, I think you and a small minority are not on the same page as all of us, who can get past our small differences because we see the big picture. We have a number of necessary demands for our support that Romney is not willing to do, most notably on foreign policy, sound money, real budget cuts, no liberty-stripping laws like NDAA and the Patriot Act. These are not small demands, but vital ones to those in this movement.

What hurts the movement is selling out and getting tied in with a politican who doesn't stand for the exact reasons that attracted us all to Dr. Paul in the first place.

Not to mention it would be political suicide, with the Obama rhetoric machine kicking into high gear, and Romney and Ron can't even get on the same message, and they won't, because they don't agree on quite a few HUGE topics and Ron doesn't compromise in his rhetoric, which will contradict Romney's. Neither will go for that.

Please stop with this Romney/Ron alliance. If there is one, then it's only mutual interest to get the other 2 out of the way first before they duke it out... He'd concede the election for Rand's sake before he jumped on with Romney in a move that could destroy the whole movement. Ron doesn't want it. Romney doesn't want it. Stop dreaming....
 
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Actually, Ron turned him down, with gratitude for the offer, when Romney's wife offered a stay at their place and Romney offered to fly Ron back to Texas on his plane that time Ron had transportation trouble. There is no reason people shouldn't be pleasant to each other.
 
My view on this is likely in the minority but if our options run out for the nomination I honestly would be so happy to see our message turn into actual reform rather than put up tough fight and not get anything from it. It would be a tough pill to swallow because Romney embodies a lot of what I hate about our system but I'd be kidding myself to say I wouldn't fight till the end for ANY presidential ticket with Dr. Paul's name on it.

Me too, but if Ron doesn't get the nomination it might come in some different form. But I say fight for the most delegates possible, and hope to win, but if we dont, know it gives Ron the best leverage we can get him to win us something meaningful. I leave what to him. But I also note that people are talking about brokered conventions as if they are mythic beasts, yet Ron was active at the last one, leading the Texas delegation for Reagan. I think he might have ideas we don't know at this point.
 
Romney isn't stupid, nor is Dr. Paul.

Well, Romney maybe, bc Ron landed himself free lodging...

MUAHAHAHA!
 
I can't judge romney for being a good samaritan.Ron Paul is like Daniel in the lions den haha :3 just sayin...being in Romneys house would be awkward
 
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