Mitt Romney Romney on top and strong in NH

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The fact is Romney is the man to beat in NH, he is strong, well organized and appeals to a large contingent of hidebound NH GOPers.

To beat him is going to take a ton of money and a ton of high quality, well placed, negative advertising to keep his past record on the front burner.


Romney's move in New Hampshire

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50705.html

Mitt Romney unofficially kicks off his New Hampshire campaign Saturday night, a high-stakes, must-win contest if he wants a realistic shot at the presidency - and he won an important endorsement on the eve of his speech.
 
Romney will win NH. The trick is who comes in 2nd place.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Romney has made NH his de facto fourth home state, so a win there could be easily written off. For instance, Tom Harkin swept Iowa in 1992, as did Paul Tsongas in New Hampshire. However, given that they were heavy favorites in both those contests, Bill Clinton came out with more momentum from his second place finish in New Hampshire than either of them from their outright wins.
 
I bet most of those who love Romney in NH are all those big-gubment GOPers who fled Taxachusits.
 
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Romney has made NH his de facto fourth home state, so a win there could be easily written off. For instance, Tom Harkin swept Iowa in 1992, as did Paul Tsongas in New Hampshire. However, given that they were heavy favorites in both those contests, Bill Clinton came out with more momentum from his second place finish in New Hampshire than either of them from their outright wins.

Yeah, it's kind of an odd "winner's curse," you get more momentum from a small margin of victory in one of the early states if the race is expected to be close than in a blowout victory if you're widely expected to be the winner for months beforehand.
 
Yeah, it's kind of an odd "winner's curse," you get more momentum from a small margin of victory in one of the early states if the race is expected to be close than in a blowout victory if you're widely expected to be the winner for months beforehand.

It shows movement and growth. Perceptual politics is about managing explosive growth. This stimulates interest, examination, and commitment. Something that is a given does not demonstrate growth. Something that is in doubt but wins well - does. Demonstrate explosive growth and the following will grow. Get on the ground now in Iowa and New Hampshire and flood the place to the ankles with Ron Paul Constitutions. Healthy government is the best environment for innovation to create jobs. Healthy government is constitutional government that stays within it's boundaries.
 
We need to win Iowa.

2 keys to this though

1. Huge $$$$$$

2. Boots on the ground outnumbering other campaigns 5 to 1 or better
 
It shows movement and growth. Perceptual politics is about managing explosive growth. This stimulates interest, examination, and commitment. Something that is a given does not demonstrate growth. Something that is in doubt but wins well - does. Demonstrate explosive growth and the following will grow. Get on the ground now in Iowa and New Hampshire and flood the place to the ankles with Ron Paul Constitutions. Healthy government is the best environment for innovation to create jobs. Healthy government is constitutional government that stays within it's boundaries.

Ron needs to announce.

It's now going on the second week in March.

If he's going to run, he needs to announce, now.
 
Ron needs to announce.

It's now going on the second week in March.

If he's going to run, he needs to announce, now.

I think the absence of any candidates is due to a zugzwang where nobody wants to be the first candidate since it makes them look like an opportunist. This applies especially for Ron Paul since he is the opposition candidate. However, it would be good if he just acted like a candidate and raised money without declaring yet (like Rand Paul did when Bunning hadn't retired yet), that way it would work to erase the advantage of Romney.
 
Ron needs to announce.

It's now going on the second week in March.

If he's going to run, he needs to announce, now.

Don't wait, hand out Ron Paul Constitutions anyway. Nothing bad can come from the populations of Iowa and New Hampshire reading the frell out of the US Constitution.
 
Ron needs to announce.

It's now going on the second week in March.

If he's going to run, he needs to announce, now.
I at first thought this too. But no, if he announces now he'll be the only major candidate in the race and he'll be a target. He'll be the punching bag and will be the stress relief valve that everyone is looking for to get this thing underway. We don't want that. Why do you think no other major candidate has announced yet?
 
I at first thought this too. But no, if he announces now he'll be the only major candidate in the race and he'll be a target. He'll be the punching bag and will be the stress relief valve that everyone is looking for to get this thing underway. We don't want that. Why do you think no other major candidate has announced yet?

People are desperately seeking real leadership. Demonstrate it, and the people will take notice.
 
NH's new motto:

"Live Free or....just vote for Romney"

Kidding...hopefully. We CAN win NH. What we have to look out for is another snipe attack like Fox News did keeping Ron out of the debate last minute. We can not let anything like that happen again. They will try something like that again.
 
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Romney seeks to address health care woes

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1130ap_us_romney_health_care.html?source=rss

BARTLETT, N.H. -- Call it an attempt to address an obvious political vulnerability. Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney on Saturday derided President Barack Obama's health care law - modeled in some ways after one the ex-governor signed in Massachusetts - as a misguided and egregious effort to seize more power for Washington.

"Obamacare is bad law, bad policy, and it is bad for America's families," Romney declared. "And that's the reason why President Obama will be a one-term president." He vowed to repeal it if he were ever in a position to do so, and drew hearty cheers from his Republican Party audience.

Then, raising the Massachusetts law, Romney argued that the solution for the unique problems of one state isn't the right prescription for the nation as a whole, and he acknowledged: "Our experiment wasn't perfect - some things worked, some didn't, and some things I'd change."

"One thing I would never do is to usurp the constitutional power of states with a one-size-fits-all federal takeover," Romney said, again earning applause. "The federal government isn't the answer for running health care any more than it's the answer for running Amtrak or the post office."

(This last is pure bullshit, IIRC Mutt is in favor of REAL ID - AF)

With that, he used his first appearance before New Hampshire Republicans since the midterm elections to start addressing head-on the issue that's certain to be a hurdle in his all-but-certain presidential campaign.

Romney's states-rights pitch is one that GOP primary voters are likely to hear over the next year as he tries to persuade them to overlook his flaws because he alone is the strongest Republican to challenge Obama on the country's top issue - the economy.

The failed candidate of 2008 is expected to formally announce a second candidacy later this spring. Campaign signs posted along the road leading to the hotel where he was speaking may have gotten a bit ahead of him. They said "Mitt Romney for President" and suggested that the theme would be "True Strength for America's Future."

Romney and his aides insisted they were old signs.

Among Romney's biggest challenges: explaining to GOP primary voters why he signed a law that became the foundation for Obama's national overhaul. Passed by Congress last year, Obama's health care law has enraged conservatives who view it as a costly government expansion and intrusion into their lives because it mandates insurance for most Americans.

Romney all but ignored the topic in his last major public appearance last month at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

But, since then, the similarities with Romney's 2006 law in Massachusetts have increasingly been dogging him.

Obama praised the efforts in Massachusetts during a meeting with governors at the White House, saying: "I agree with Mitt Romney, who recently said he's proud of what he accomplished on health care by giving states the power to determine their own health care solutions. He's right."

Also, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, an Obama friend, said Romney deserves a lot of credit on health care. "One of the best things he did was to be the co-author of our health care reform, which has been a model for national health care reform," he said.


The praise from Democrats provides fodder for Romney's Republican primary opponents; some are already heaping on the criticism.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee says in his new book: "If our goal in health care reform is better care at lower cost, then we should take a lesson from RomneyCare, which shows that socialized medicine does not work." It was a play on the word that conservative critics use to describe the national law: Obamacare.

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, who is likely to run for president against Romney, took a shot at Romney when he testified before a House committee reviewing Obama's health care overhaul. He lumped Romney in with a late liberal icon and an Obama friend in saying: "Senator (Edward M.) Kennedy and Governor Romney and then Governor Patrick, if that's what Massachusetts wants, we're happy for them. We don't want that. That's not good for us."

A GOP rising star, House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., also weighed in, saying of Romney's law: "It's not that dissimilar to Obamacare. And you probably know I'm not a big fan of Obamacare."

All that was the backdrop as Romney took the stage at the Carroll County Lincoln Day Dinner at the Attitash Grand Summit Hotel in northern New Hampshire.

First, he poked fun at the criticism that seems to be coming from all sides, saying "you may have noticed that the president and his people spend more time talking about me and Massachusetts health care than Entertainment Tonight spends talking about Charlie Sheen."

Then he turned serious and provided an explanation, emphasizing states' rights to a crowd from the "Live Free Or Die" state.

His coming candidacy may hinge on whether they buy it.
 
Don't wait, hand out Ron Paul Constitutions anyway. Nothing bad can come from the populations of Iowa and New Hampshire reading the frell out of the US Constitution.

Working on it.

I just had to take a break in this thread to harangue the crew once again about freedom and liberty and Ron Paul.
 
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