Romney is Watching Us

[Romulus]

Rand will not be considered for VP. Just think for a second the amount of media coverage Sarah Palin got. Now put in Rand and imagine questions about libertarian philosophy. You think Romney wants to spend his time debating the Civil Rights Act, legalizing marijuana, legalizing prostitution, ending the wars, ending the Patriot Act etc...it's NOT going to happen.

Romney wants all the focus on the economy. Think about it from his point of view and you'll know that Rand will not be considered.

Agreed. Which makes Rand's endorsement pointless.

Rand and the campaign officially stepped in it. Right when we were winning all sorts of states the campaign puts out the email to roll over. I'm not happy at all with how this is turned out.

 

[DeMintConservative]

yeah we get it, you want Romney because he'll appoint justices you like.

Unfortanetly Rand never even mentioned justice appointments on Hannity, so to say that is why he is supporting Romney is simply not correct.

Secondly, The youth of the party have clearly shown that they prefer libertarianism as opposed to whatever it is the GOP is offering up so it is really a matter of attrition. The libertarian movement will go on with or without Rand Paul.

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Well, that was my speculation about the most strategic, long-term, reasons. I'm sure that the fact that Romney is closer to him on most policy issues than Obama played a role.

What's the youth of the party? The party will be united behind Romney. That's what a party is. I'm sure every libertarian or libertarian minded elected official, from Rand Paul to Jeff Flake, from Chaffetz to Mike Lee, from Amash to even Ron Paul, will be supporting Romney as the party nominee. And also people like myself, who voted Ron Paul in the primary for the lack of a better alternative. You don't get to only be in the party when it's convenient to you. Good luck trying to persuade the rest of the party to side with your positions or to support your candidates when chose to not reciprocate.

 

[DeMintConservative]

Sad how every "conservative" justice is a police statist.

They're still a lot better than the alternative. Those police statists are the reason the 2nd amendment still means something and government mandates won't become the law of the land.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Talking heads get talking finger

He's watching us, huh? Like literally watching this thread?

 

[July]

Well if any Romney people are watching, then I have this to say. If there is a Paul on the ticket--either Ron or Rand, I would vote for it, and even help support it. I think it's extremely unlikely, but I would consider it if he actually did it. If Romney stops the voter intimidation and disenfranchisement of new Paul supporters and liberty candidates coming into the party immediately, I will consider it. If he doesn't interfere with our delegates and ability to have our voice at the convention peacefully, I will consider it. If he follows through on what he promised Rand, and supporting Ron's Audit the Fed Bill, I will consider it. If he continues the disenfranchisement and aggressive push to remove us from the party, though, no.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Rand would have less influence & power as VP than he would as a Senator IMO.

^^^ Agree ^^^

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Well if any Romney people are watching, then I have this to say. If there is a Paul on the ticket--either Ron or Rand, I would vote for it, and even help support it. I think it's extremely unlikely, but I would consider it if he actually did it. If Romney stops the voter intimidation and disenfranchisement of new Paul supporters and liberty candidates coming into the party immediately, I will consider it. If he doesn't interfere with our delegates and ability to have our voice at the convention peacefully, I will consider it. If he follows through on what he promised Rand, and supporting Ron's Audit the Fed Bill, I will consider it. If he continues the disenfranchisement and aggressive push to remove us from the party, though, no.

I would rather see Rand as senator. But I'm still with Ron Paul and I'm going to listen to him only. So far, Ron's speach at the Texas convention tells me it's on to Tampa.

 

[Anti Federalist]

They're still a lot better than the alternative. Those police statists are the reason the 2nd amendment still means something and government mandates won't become the law of the land.

Pointless, when actually exercising that right will get you SWAT raided or executed.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Now that Rand endorsed... this is a beta test for VP. If the consensus is that we all cheer and say 'ok I'll vote for Romney if there's a Paul on the ticket', there's a chance he could Rand could be VP. If not, it serves Romney no purpose to put Rand on. Even though the Neocons love Rand for some reason.

Just think though.... IF Rand was picked to be VP. That itself says something about us. Look at what we can do. I remember the establishment going head to head up against Rand in his primary. Rand's senate victory was because of our hard work. IF he is picked for VP, I think that says alot about what we have accomplished. Just something to ponder.

I still have mixed thoughts on the whole situation.

Just stop.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Agreed. Which makes Rand's endorsement pointless.

Rand and the campaign officially stepped in it. Right when we were winning all sorts of states the campaign puts out the email to roll over. I'm not happy at all with how this is turned out.

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I'm told that endorsements are meaningless so why get upset over it?

If they are meaningless then why do it?

 

[Romulus]

This x ∞

I'm told that endorsements are meaningless so why get upset over it?

If they are meaningless then why do it?

Who said that nothing in politics is an accident?

Rand endorsed for a reason.

 

[cajuncocoa]

This x ∞

I'm told that endorsements are meaningless so why get upset over it?

If they are meaningless then why do it?

There ya go.

 

[catdd]

You never know though, Mitt Witt might get run over by a bus or something.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Unlike Rand Benedict I will not sacrifice my principles for a better seat at the table.

 

[July]

I would rather see Rand as senator. But I'm still with Ron Paul and I'm going to listen to him only. So far, Ron's speach at the Texas convention tells me it's on to Tampa.

I would also prefer Rand in Senate, if it were up to me. But if Rand or Ron were actually offered and accepted, I would hear them out on their reasoning and probably support it, if it made sense. For a Paul on the ticket, I would prefer Ron. I think he could actually do some good with a VP slot. There are some other VP choices I might possibly be moved for too. I'm not holding my breath, I'm sure it'll probably be Rubio or someone.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

I think a lot of people are still in denial. Give it a few days

 

[Butchie]

Now that Rand endorsed... this is a beta test for VP. If the consensus is that we all cheer and say 'ok I'll vote for Romney if there's a Paul on the ticket', there's a chance he could Rand could be VP. If not, it serves Romney no purpose to put Rand on. Even though the Neocons love Rand for some reason.

Just think though.... IF Rand was picked to be VP. That itself says something about us. Look at what we can do. I remember the establishment going head to head up against Rand in his primary. Rand's senate victory was because of our hard work. IF he is picked for VP, I think that says alot about what we have accomplished. Just something to ponder.

I still have mixed thoughts on the whole situation.

It would mean he's going to be the running mate of a loser who will lose to Obama and that he sold his soul for nothing. Rand is a Senator, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment, better than going down as the lap dog of a guy who couldn't even beat the most unpopular Pres besides GWB. Remind me again who was John Kerry's running mate? How's his career going?

 

[Eisenhower]

Good. I'm glad he's watching us. We don't want Rand as VP and we didn't want him endorsing a neo-con, flip flopping, piece of garbage.

 

[Tod]

Rand needs competition as the likely future leader of the Liberty R3volution.

I cannot think of a single reason, however lame, that Rand could use to justify endorsing the man who has been on both sides of about every issue imaginable.

We cannot let this error in judgement slow or stop the growth of the movement, however. We can only use this as a lesson to remind ourselves that spokesmen are only useful in so far as they speak the message of limited government, sound money, and individual liberty. For that reason, the movement should not place all of its eggs in one (frail) person but remain widespread and non-centralized, growing from the grassroots upward.

 

[Romulus]

Looking back... in the debate where Ron and Mitt both attack Santa.... it made me question.

Why not attack Mitt? Ron never did... he attacked others but not Mitt.

I'm not understanding this respect for Mitt from the Paul family. Mitt is not anyone deserving respect, much less an endorsement on the damn Shammity show.