Romney: For ‘National Unity,’ Republicans Must Publicly Say Biden Won Legitimately

[Anti Federalist]

I heard they're pretty good.

 

[Anti Globalist]

National unity my ass. If Democrats and RINOS wanted unity, they wouldn't label 75 million Americans that voted for Trump domestic terrorists. What they really want is compliance with a loaded gun.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

And, once again, THIS is the piece of filth that Rand Paul told us all to support.

I wouldn't have voted for Romney if Rand held a gun to my head, yet many were eager to run out to the voting booth to do just that.



That was the END Of the Ron Paul Revolution. Very sad. Can it be rebuilt?

There is no reason to bring Rand into this thread on Romney.

 

[PAF]

That was the END Of the Ron Paul Revolution. Very sad. Can it be rebuilt?

Throughout history, 3% has been consistent. In the future, the 3% will wonder why their Ron Paul candidate got screwed out of election.

The r3VOLution was not seeking a politician or a republican. We were seeking Individualism, freedom and fiscal responsibility.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Conservatives have done nothing wrong. Nothing will appease the left. Where was this unity call in 2017 or 2019? This is like the Democrat Mayors that think they are all tight with BLM and going to Defund the Police to placate the people. Does it work? No. Some people will never be satisfied.

 

[acptulsa]

And, once again, THIS is the piece of filth that Rand Paul told us all to support.

I wouldn't have voted for Romney if Rand held a gun to my head, yet many were eager to run out to the voting booth to do just that.



That was the END Of the Ron Paul Revolution. Very sad. Can it be rebuilt?

Rand Paul on the inside throwing RINOs the occasional bone combined with us barbarians lobbying the snot out of them could have made the GOP better than it is, especially if we carried through with our threats to primary the obstinate ones. Instead, he threw them one meaningless bone that accomplished exactly nothing, and a portion of us used it as an excuse to lapse back into apathy.

This horse is eight years dead. Beating it makes no difference to the horse. But it does amount to shooting ourselves in the foot.

Want to rebuild the r3volution? Stop beating our people up for trying to trade meaningless trinkets for the things we need.

 

[CaptUSA]

Rand Paul on the inside throwing RINOs the occasional bone combined with us barbarians lobbying the snot out of them could have made the GOP better than it is, especially if we carried through with our threats to primary the obstinate ones. Instead, he through them one meaningless bone that accomplished exactly nothing, and a portion of us used it as an excuse to lapse back into apathy.

This horse is eight years dead. Beating it makes no difference to the horse. But it does amount to shooting ourselves in the foot.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

Emotional wounds are slow to heal.

 

[Invisible Man]

Why does it always seem like the people who say that Rand's making a lesser-of-two-evils argument in 2012 was an unforgivable sin are the very same ones who then turn around and insist that choosing the lesser of two evils in 2016 and 2020 was a righteous deed that was mandatory for all of us?

 

[acptulsa]

Why does it always seem like the people who say that Rand's making a lesser-of-two-evils argument in 2012 was an unforgivable sin are the very same ones who then turn around and insist that choosing the lesser of two evils in 2016 and 2020 was a righteous deed that was mandatory for all of us?

Because someone must rush to the aid of the poor, defenseless ballsy Alpha.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why does it always seem like the people who say that Rand's making a lesser-of-two-evils argument in 2012 was an unforgivable sin are the very same ones who then turn around and insist that choosing the lesser of two evils in 2016 and 2020 was a righteous deed that was mandatory for all of us?

Rand endorsed Romney over his own father for political expediency.

Ron was still active in the primary and still collecting money in an attempt to sway delegates and voters at the convention and beyond when Rand endorsed Romney.

It was either grift or backstabbing treachery or a monumental fuck up of timing.

Probably all three.

I lost a great deal of respect for both men that day, and for what?

A worthless endorsement of a worthless politician who lost spectacularly anyway.

How much better off we all would be if Rand had just done the right thing in the first place, abstained from endorsing until after the convention and said, "my father is still in this campaign, and as long as he is, I support my dad, period".

 

[Invisible Man]

Rand endorsed Romney over his own father

That's not true, and you know it. We've been over this before, and not even that long ago. And here you are repeating the same thing that you just saw disproved.

Rand never endorsed Romney over his own dad. He only endorsed Romney for the general election, over Obama, and not his dad. It was the very same lesser-of-two evils argument of choosing the R candidate over the D candidate, and never had anything to do with choosing Romney to be that R candidate over his dad or anyone else. It was the same as choosing Trump over Hillary or Biden.

When Ron was running against Romney for the Republican nomination, Rand endorsed and campaigned for his dad and no one else for that nomination.

 

[shakey1]

Mitt is shitt.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's not true, and you know it. We've been over this before, and not even that long ago.

Ron was still active in the primary and collecting money to campaign and influence the party direction at the convention.

There were still primary contests to be held when Rand endorsed.

Rand endorsed Romney rather than his dad.

Period.

 

[Invisible Man]

Ron was still active in the primary and collecting money to campaign and influence the party direction at the convention.

Yes. And Rand continued to endorse and support Ron's effort to do that. Rand's endorsement of Romney against Obama had nothing to do with that ongoing effort that both he and his dad continued to be involved in for those delegates to influence the party.

But when Rand endorsed Romney over Obama, Ron was not trying to win the Republican nomination anymore, and had said so explicitly.

Rand endorsed Romney rather than his dad.

Period.

What did he endorse Romney for rather than his dad?

Was it the Republican nomination? No. Rand only ever endorsed his dad and no one else for the 2012 Republican nomination.

Was it for influencing the GOP with delegates at the convention? No. Rand only ever gave any support to the strategy of delegates who supported his dad over Romney doing that, and not delegates who supported Romney over his dad and who would oppose the efforts of those Ron Paul supporting delegates.

Was it for the general election? No. Because his dad didn't run in the general election.

There is no conceivable way to construe Rand's endorsement of Romney over Obama as an endorsement of Romney over his dad. That never happened.

 

[vita3]

Put a mask over our mouth & gives us a script to parrot.

Lol. GTFO

Btw Private Equity is Romney’s bread & butter with Bain & PE controls voting machines

 

[acptulsa]

Ron was still active in the primary and collecting money to campaign and influence the party direction at the convention.

There were still primary contests to be held when Rand endorsed.

Rand endorsed Romney rather than his dad.

Period.

There were still two primaries left, with a total of 63 delegates between them. Romney had secured the nomination two weeks earlier. Or was there only one, a state with only unsecured delegates? The media was working 24/7 to drive a wedge between libertarians and the GOP.

You're spinning this rather harshly.

 

[Ender]

There were still two primaries left, with a total of 63 delegates between them. Romney had secured the nomination two weeks earlier. Or was there only one, a state with only unsecured delegates? The media was working 24/7 to drive a wedge between libertarians and the GOP.

You're spinning this rather harshly.

My understanding, as well.

 

[Invisible Man]

There were still two primaries left, with a total of 63 delegates between them. Romney had secured the nomination two weeks earlier. Or was there only one, a state with only unsecured delegates? The media was working 24/7 to drive a wedge between libertarians and the GOP.

You're spinning this rather harshly.

I believe there was only one left, Utah.

And Rand never framed his endorsement as having anything to do with how Republican voters in Utah should cast their votes in that primary. Nor did Ron or anyone in his campaign seem to take it as if he did. Ron had already stated clearly that he could no longer win the nomination and that he was only trying to influence the party with however many delegates he could bring to the convention, and Rand was supportive of that and never said anything in his endorsement of Romney over Obama (nor on any other occasion) that could be construed as undermining that.

The source of the myth that Rand somehow betrayed his dad by endorsing Romney over him goes back to the idea a lot of Ron Paul supporters (including on this site) had, that there was some kind of stealth delegate strategy, where even though Romney had already secured more than enough pledged delegates to win the nomination with ease, Ron could somehow still win by getting Ron Paul supporters to sneak in as pledged Romney delegates who would then vote for Ron instead at the national convention. Neither Ron himself nor anyone with an official connection to him ever gave a shred of support to that idea. At the point in time that Rand endorsed Romney, the only hope that anyone had for Ron to win the nomination was among those rogue supporters who were trying to force Ron into the nomination through a totally implausible process that he himself didn't support. The supporters who still clung to that idea seemed to think that Ron was secretly on board and just couldn't say so openly. So when Rand endorsed Romney, it was a blow to them. The fact is, the very fact that Rand did that is proof that Ron wasn't secretly on board with that stealth delegate strategy. Ron's agenda at that point was exactly what he himself said it was and nothing more, which was to influence the party. An agenda that Rand also supported and never once did anything to undermine.

 

[Philhelm]

Romney . Ya , AF had it right he can eat a bag of dicks .

Be careful. If Romney reads this and then actually eats a bag of dicks, they might be able to arrest you four years later.

 

[oyarde]

Be careful. If Romney reads this and then actually eats a bag of dicks, they might be able to arrest you four years later.

My defense will be there was no reason for me to believe he had not already committed this heinous act on other occasions before.