Romney Buying Votes in Iowa

[Dave]

At this time I'm not sure how tickets can be purchased before the event. Dave?

The Iowa GOP has said that ticket distribution is 'to be determined'.

I'm sure they're accustomed to selling huge blocks of these directly to the campaigns and have relatively few that are purchased directly by individuals.

I will call the Iowa GOP on Wednesday.

 

[Dave]

what does the $35 go to?

To the Iowa GOP. It's a fundraiser.

 

[torchbearer]

Look at the flyer, it says I will be attend the straw poll and vote for Romney and some other stuff I don't want to bother trying to read And even if it didn't, their campaign is buying your ticket to help themselves, not to hurt themselves.

Anyway, I think this is a relativistic issue personally and that each person needs to make decisions like this on their own. Better to not tell/advise people either way, especially as group (although advising them to take the high road would certainly reflect better on us and our candidate than taking the low road).

To say its a contract to vote for romney would make it unethical to begin with... That would be buying votes and illegal. He is paying for the ticket and ride in "hopes" that you will vote for him... that's the legal way of taking the ticket. I'm tired of our country's politician's buying votes... let's make them pay... show them our country isnt for sale....

 

[Phil M]

This would get us bad media attention. As favorable as I find the idea of screwing with Mitt's campaign, if it gets out that we are doing this it will just perpetuate the myths that we don't play by the rules. If the FairTax people are giving out tickets, I think that that would be a much better option.

 

[Dave]

I think it's a great idea to get a ticket from Fair Tax or one of the other candidates and then vote for Ron.

If the Fair Tax group is giving away free tickets that may be a good way to get them - I don't know what strings they may try to attach to your conscience but for me it beats taking a free ticket from Brownback, et al when I intend to vote for Dr. Paul. I know some people are OK with that, it just wouldn't work for me.

I'm proud to pay my poll tax to go vote for Ron Paul. That said, I know $70 for a couple is a lot of money to most ordinary midwestern folks - plus gas is $3.04/gal right now and Ames is a long haul for a lot of people. We're trying to win this thing with one hand tied behind our back so we need twice the effort.

 

[Electrostatic]

To say its a contract to vote for romney would make it unethical to begin with... That would be buying votes and illegal. He is paying for the ticket and ride in "hopes" that you will vote for him... that's the legal way of taking the ticket. I'm tired of our country's politician's buying votes... let's make them pay... show them our country isnt for sale....

That's what they usually do, but if you look at the ad you have to agree to "Vote for Mitt" in order to get it......

That is the problem.

 

[CurtisLow]

Need to make up some signs and have people at the gate hold them.

Fixed it next page... Thanks!

 

[Dave]

Need to make up some signs and have people at the gate hold them.

You've got the right idea! The Des Moines meetup talked about doing something like having buttons that say:

I Paid My Way...Who Paid Yours?

 

[Electrostatic]

Like the idea of signs, but that one may be a bit too confrontational.... Don't forget some people may not like being acused of having taken a bribe.

 

[Rocky Mtn Liberty Lover]

CurtisLow - Very intriguing sign, but I would recommend changing "Washtington" to "Washington" and "canidate" to "candidate".

Why on this page do I see a "Rudy for GOP Nominee" ad at the bottom?

 

[spacebetween]

You've got the right idea! The Des Moines meetup talked about doing something like having buttons that say:

I Paid My Way...Who Paid Yours?

Perhaps that's a bit standoffish?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Fuck Romney.. let him waste his money

Romney has $12 Million in the bank.. but only because he put in over $9 million of his own money.. If you subtract that hes got no more than $3 Million.. Some people say hes got close to $2 Million...

all these fuckers can pump in all the money they want, but theyve got the wrong message and it will be a money pit for them..

The establishment isnt going to know what hit them.. After we get done with the neo-cons and lock up the nomination then were gonna knock out the neo-libs as well...

There will come a point when he knows he wont be able to win and mark my words.. he will pull out all his money for fear of losing it all and his campaign will be over.

 

[Electrostatic]

Why on this page do I see a "Rudy for GOP Nominee" ad at the bottom?

It's the paid advertising that runs this site........ Every time someone clicks on it money goes from Rudy's War Chest to Google (Youtube) and this site....

 

[CurtisLow]

CurtisLow - Very intriguing sign, but I would recommend changing "Washtington" to "Washington" and "canidate" to "candidate".

Why on this page do I see a "Rudy for GOP Nominee" ad at the bottom?

Thanks for the heads up! lol I guess I need to go to bed...zzzzz

Need to get some people holding signs at the gate.

 

[Dave]

Perhaps that's a bit standoffish?

Probably. It was just an idea. I don't know what kind of things will actually happen.

 

[remaxjon]

Why on this page do I see a "Rudy for GOP Nominee" ad at the bottom?

lol click it

It will cost him money and make money for the site.

 

[JoshLowry]

lol click it

It will cost him money and make money for the site.

I will get my google adsense account revoked if any part of this site encourages ad clicks. Please do not encourage users to click ads.

The ads pull in about 5 dollars a day on average so it helps to pay the monthly $169 dedicated server hosting bill.

Hope you understand, not trying to be harsh.

Thanks! <3

 

[Warhawk]

2 things.

1. Campaigns buying tickets for their supporters to the Iowa straw poll isn't something new. In fact, it's pretty customary. The fact that Romney is doing it isn't something that's going to turn anyone off to him, because practically every candidate does it.

2. There's also no rule that you have to vote for the campaign that bought your ticket. It's happened often in past straw polls. If there were any sort of rule or tradition that you had to vote for the candidate who you got your ticket from, then fine, it would be immoral, but there's not, so it should be fine.

 

[Electrostatic]

2 things.

1. Campaigns buying tickets for their supporters to the Iowa straw poll isn't something new. In fact, it's pretty customary. The fact that Romney is doing it isn't something that's going to turn anyone off to him, because practically every candidate does it.

2. There's also no rule that you have to vote for the campaign that bought your ticket. It's happened often in past straw polls. If there were any sort of rule or tradition that you had to vote for the candidate who you got your ticket from, then fine, it would be immoral, but there's not, so it should be fine.

Yes, you are correct... But if you read the ad closely 'You Have To Agree To Vote For Him To Get The Ticket'... That's what makes this time different...

 

[Electric Church]

take the free ticket and give the money you intended to spend to another voter for Ron Paul.

great idea