RNC Official Claims ‘Every Delegate Is a Superdelegate,’ Can Override Will of Voters

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

The important thing is that you voted.

yours is not to question why,
yours is just to pull, and cry

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

IF no candidate gets to 50% + 1 (1237) on the first ballot of bound delegates by primary election -
yes a second ballot free-for-all !

Though in Colorado - maybe others - all our delegates are "superdelegates" unbound to anyone from the gitgo

btw, delegates are also never bound to just vote for the nominee's Vice-President choice either, very possible at a "brokered" convention

Nope, original article said delegates are not bound *even* on the first vote.

“Every delegate to the 2016 Republican National Convention is a completely free agent, free to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the convention in Cleveland in July. Every delegate is a Superdelegate!” claimed Haughland, who also pointed out that he has “been defending the right of the delegates to the Republican National Convention to vote according to their personal choice in all matters to come before the Republican National Convention, including the vote to nominate the Republican Candidate for President, for several years.”

 

[Jan2017]

Nope, original article said delegates are not bound *even* on the first vote.

Original article talks of one guys interpretation - pretty lame.

Haughland’s effort to convince the RNC of his interpretation of convention rules . . .

The nominee of the party must receive a majority of the votes of the permanently feted delegates of the convention.

 

[Champ]

I love political parties and the people that run them. No principles or integrity at all.

If option A happens, we use rules X, Y and Z.

If option B happens, we scrap rules X, Y, and Z, pretend they don't exist or accuse anyone that wants to do them of being absurd, blasphemous, extreme, radical, and we go with option Q.

If God forbid, option C happens, we now say option B is a legitimate option, in order to defeat the perpetrator of option C.

It doesn't matter which option or rules are used, as long as the ultimate goal being met that the pre-determined winner is victorious.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

I love political parties and the people that run them. No principles or integrity at all.

If option A happens, we use rules X, Y and Z.

If option B happens, we scrap rules X, Y, and Z, pretend they don't exist or accuse anyone that wants to do them of being absurd, blasphemous, extreme, radical, and we go with option Q.

If God forbid, option C happens, we now say option B is a legitimate option, in order to defeat the perpetrator of option C.

It doesn't matter which option or rules are used, as long as the ultimate goal being met that the pre-determined winner is victorious.

And all that putting their candidate through the primary does is hurt them. They should either pick their horse or create a list of candidates to their liking that will run positive campaigns and allow voters to choose from that list.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

They want to do that then fine since it will completely gut the Republican party and rightfully so. Hopefully the Sanders supporters will bolt the Democratic party to when Hillary wins it. Then just maybe the Constitution party or some other third party will finally be a viable alternative to effect change that can pull the disaffected voters from both parties.

Trump might be the only one that can pull it off with a third party this way. As much as I do not like Sanders and his policies, put him on the ticket to win it. Then you have three parties being rebuilt from within. Then you have a chance for some real change in this country.

If you have Hillary on the Dems, Bush/Kasich/Rubio on the Repubs, and Trump/Sanders as third party, then you have not just two socialist parties, but three! It's like cutting off Hydra's head. Better to support someone who believes in liberty.

 

[Jan2017]

I guess legally a political party can nominate anyone, but aren't there also some state rules for primaries run with tax dollars (?) different for each state GOP.

As comparison, Electoral College Electors are state officers by federal law . . . I believe that they could be compelled to never cast an electoral vote for an ineligible candidate.

 

[openfire]

So this was their fallback plan even in longshot case where Ron won the election. We would have been cheated of it anyway.

You see yet why it's the kind of people who do these things who are the first problem that needs to be solved? At some point malice has to be recognized and faced up to, not negotiated or cooperated with.

Still waiting for someone to refute this.

**crickets**

 

[nobody's_hero]

And if the delegates make a mistake, the teleprompter chooses.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Still waiting for someone to refute this.

**crickets**

The answer to not liking how a private party conducts itself is to leave that party, not practice violence against them.

 

[nobody's_hero]

The answer to not liking how a private party conducts itself is to leave that party, not practice violence against them.

Can I get back the tax dollars that go to fund its primary?

The Libertarian party is a private party. It funds its own primary phase through conventions. The Democrats and Republicans both use public funding to carry out their candidate selection process.

It's like when people say that colleges can do whatever they want because they're private entities. There's hardly a college in the US that hasn't received taxpayer funding at some point. You'd have a better chance of spotting a unicorn than locating a college that is truly private.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Can I get back the tax dollars that go to fund its primary?

The Libertarian party is a private party. It funds its own primary phase through conventions. The Democrats and Republicans both use public funding to carry out their candidate selection process.

It's like when people say that colleges can do whatever they want because they're private entities. There's hardly a college in the US that hasn't received taxpayer funding at some point. You'd have a better chance of spotting a unicorn than locating a college that is truly private.

I agree with you but I think the proper answer is to cease that public funding rather than 'give in' you could say and regulate how political parties may operate.

 

[Champ]

Still waiting for someone to refute this.

**crickets**

It can't be refuted, that's why. How you want to deal with this being the case is what is up for debate.

Ron was definitely cheated in 2012, even if by the GOP's estimate, he had less than a 1% chance of winning. They changed the rules at the last minute to ensure he had 0% chance of an uprising and also made sure there would be no mention of the words "Ron" or "Paul" at any point during the convention, including when they mentioned his name when reading delegate totals, and cut their mic repeatedly.

I'm sitting back and enjoying the show as the implosion of 2016 begins and the scrambling to change rules and fix the game to get their winner in there. This is going to get interesting.

 

[Champ]

 

[kpitcher]

All delegates are super delegates

http://truthinmedia.com/rnc-official-every-delegate-is-a-superdelegate-override-will-of-voters/

Republican National Committeeman Curly Haugland of North Dakota sent a letter on Friday to fellow RNC officials arguing that current party rules allow 2016 Republican National Convention delegates to vote for the presidential candidate of their personal preference during the first round of voting, rather than voting along with the will of voters in their states.

Rule 40 was just a 2012 rule, it won't apply in Cleveland, no min number of states required
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...-republican-contested-convention-rules-220499

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

http://truthinmedia.com/rnc-official-every-delegate-is-a-superdelegate-override-will-of-voters/

Republican National Committeeman Curly Haugland of North Dakota sent a letter on Friday to fellow RNC officials arguing that current party rules allow 2016 Republican National Convention delegates to vote for the presidential candidate of their personal preference during the first round of voting, rather than voting along with the will of voters in their states.

Rule 40 was just a 2012 rule, it won't apply in Cleveland, no min number of states required
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...-republican-contested-convention-rules-220499

We need to start calling rule 40 the ron paul rule then - because it was only applied to ron paul.

 

[kpitcher]

The Ron Paul rule was briefly mentioned on the last Bill Mahar show and I noticed it was quickly pushed aside like a "We don't want to mention that"

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

The Ron Paul rule was briefly mentioned on the last Bill Mahar show and I noticed it was quickly pushed aside like a "We don't want to mention that"

We should make a point of mentioning it since it will be newsworthy for 6 months. A lot of people don't want it mentioned because they don't want it to be known, but it should be mentioned, and it's too our advantage to mention it too.

Maybe we can get a libertarian secretary of something out of it as a nod depending on who does win.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

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