Rise for Liberty, Moneybomb May 17th - Planning and Promotion

[zHorns]

We started a project to gather all twitter supporters and maximize effectiveness:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374317-Gathering-Legion

I am not stealing thread since we will use this to promote money-bomb.

I'll be at the meeting tonight, we can talk about that.

See you then!

 

[seawolf]

Robo-Calls from Call Centers contracted by the Official Campaign are asking for Donations from RP Donors Right Now.

The caller states that Ron Paul needs $650,000.00 in the next 14 days or by May 14th. Then Ron comes on the telephone with his plea are funds.

This is similar to what the Campaign did two months ago.

Bottom Line their target is to have the funds in the bank NLT 14 May. I assume to buy TV Ads/Radio Ads and Direct Mail.

Is May 17th now too late and should the date be moved up to May 11th???

 

[zHorns]

Robo-Calls from Call Centers contracted by the Official Campaign are asking for Donations from RP Donors Right Now.

The caller states that Ron Paul needs $650,000.00 in the next 14 days or by May 14th. Then Ron comes on the telephone with his plea are funds.

This is similar to what the Campaign did two months ago.

Bottom Line their target is to have the funds in the bank NLT 14 May. I assume to buy TV Ads/Radio Ads and Direct Mail.

Is May 17th now too late and should the date be moved up to May 11th???

There is no way we can move the date at this point.

I have no doubt that the campaign can raise funds on their own. Direct mailing and robocalls pay for themselves.

 

[seawolf]

Too bad, obviously the Campaign needs the funds before May 17th!!! But Good Luck anyway!!!

 

[Jackie Moon]

We started a project to gather all twitter supporters and maximize effectiveness:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374317-Gathering-Legion

I am not stealing thread since we will use this to promote money-bomb.

Yes, this is good, the key is to have the same message re-tweeted a bunch of times.

There is no way we can move the date at this point.

I have no doubt that the campaign can raise funds on their own. Direct mailing and robocalls pay for themselves.

I wonder if the campaign heard about the plans for the 17th and this is their way of saying they need money earlier, or if they don't know about the MoneyBomb yet and could just wait the 3 extra days. Either way though I agree, kinda late to change the date now.

 

[zHorns]

I wonder if the campaign heard about the plans for the 17th and this is their way of saying they need money earlier, or if they don't know about the MoneyBomb yet and could just wait the 3 extra days. Either way though I agree, kinda late to change the date now.

We all kinda knew that the campaign would likely do a end of the month push, which I'm guessing could conflict with an official announcement about this Moneybomb.

All I'm hoping for within the next week or so, they make this official. The longer they wait to start promotion, the less time they have to push it.

We'll see how it plays out.

 

[sailingaway]

There is no way we can move the date at this point.

I have no doubt that the campaign can raise funds on their own. Direct mailing and robocalls pay for themselves.

I would change it if they need it by May 14. You can email the change to the people who pledged saying it is in response to an earlier need for funds by the campaign. The problem is that if Ron needs it earlier, people are going to donate earlier instead. An end of month push would have been earlier and wouldn't compete as much with the money bomb. A deadline three days before the money bomb is pretty tough, though.

 

[Steele]

I'll be donating before the 14th. When I got the call today that Ron needs the money by May 14th, I'm in.

 

[Jackie Moon]

We all kinda knew that the campaign would likely do a end of the month push, which I'm guessing could conflict with an official announcement about this Moneybomb.

All I'm hoping for within the next week or so, they make this official. The longer they wait to start promotion, the less time they have to push it.

We'll see how it plays out.

I can understand the need for money before the 17th. But I'd think that if they needed some money quickly they could send out emails or whatever right now, like they have before without an official MoneyBomb, and it would still be early enough that it wouldn't conflict with them also doing a bigger MoneyBomb on the 17th.

Yes the earlier that they adopt it and make it official, hopefully using the same name, the bigger it will be. Before No One But Paul I had never donated and I had never even heard of a MoneyBomb. Only after watching For Liberty which led me to this site did I hear about it. I had "liked" Ron Paul on Facebook and visited the campaign site occasionally but because they only officially promote a MoneyBomb for such a limited amount of time I never saw it. Those are the type of people I'm trying to reach when I'm spreading this. The potential new donors that like Ron Paul but don't visit sites like this one, haven't heard of a MoneyBomb before and don't check Facebook or the campaign site every day.

 

[Barrex]

Robo-Calls from Call Centers contracted by the Official Campaign are asking for Donations from RP Donors Right Now.

The caller states that Ron Paul needs $650,000.00 in the next 14 days or by May 14th. Then Ron comes on the telephone with his plea are funds.

This is similar to what the Campaign did two months ago.

Bottom Line their target is to have the funds in the bank NLT 14 May. I assume to buy TV Ads/Radio Ads and Direct Mail.

Is May 17th now too late and should the date be moved up to May 11th???

CLUSTERFU*K

Dont give me that "we can not coordinate" crap (read the rules all of them).


That being said we have to make best of it somehow.

Someone make a plan.

 

[green73]

The site seems to be down.

 

[zHorns]

The site seems to be down.

Looking into it right now.

 

[zHorns]

Looking into it right now.

It's back up.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Make it a multiple-day moneybomb, starting on the 14th. Those who wish then to donate to Paul on the 14th, after being robocalled can do so, where others who took note of this moneybomb on the 17th will donate then - and it could all be added together in one grand total.

 

[Jackie Moon]

CLUSTERFU*K

Dont give me that "we can not coordinate" crap (read the rules all of them).

Exactly, even without directly being involved they could at least just say "we need a Moneybomb on May xx", and then let the grassroots organize and promote it. Is there a way to at least make sure they know about the plans for the 17th?

Is there a reason why they'd do robo-calls instead of sending emails and posting on Facebook?

Make it a multiple-day moneybomb, starting on the 14th. Those who wish then to donate to Paul on the 14th, after being robocalled can do so, where others who took note of this moneybomb on the 17th will donate then - and it could all be added together in one grand total.

I think this sounds like the way to go. I'm thinking that until they make it public this push for money with calls can be kept separate from the Moneybomb. From what I've seen it looks like maybe they're calling people who can and have given larger amounts. So they can keep doing this privately, and then also have a public Moneybomb that they put a ticker up for and stuff on the 17th.

 

[CJPrinter]

CLUSTERFU*K

Dont give me that "we can not coordinate" crap (read the rules all of them).

Exactly, even without directly being involved they could at least just say "we need a Moneybomb on May xx", and then let the grassroots organize and promote it. Is there a way to at least make sure they know about the plans for the 17th?

We can gripe about it all we want. Bottom line; We ALL know they won't, so let's get over it and like Barrex pointed out:

...we have to make best of it somehow.

Griping WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING! ACTION WILL! Thus OUR grassroots effort to run a monthly moneybomb...

Is there a reason why they'd do robo-calls instead of sending emails and posting on Facebook?

Simply because that's the method they chose to use. Just a thought, but MAYBE the statistics they have show emails & facebook aren't as effective fundraising tools. I doubt it, but if their data shows it, I'm sure they would believe it over us.

Make it a multiple-day moneybomb, starting on the 14th. Those who wish then to donate to Paul on the 14th, after being robocalled can do so, where others who took note of this moneybomb on the 17th will donate then - and it could all be added together in one grand total.

I think this sounds like the way to go. I'm thinking that until they make it public this push for money with calls can be kept separate from the Moneybomb. From what I've seen it looks like maybe they're calling people who can and have given larger amounts. So they can keep doing this privately, and then also have a public Moneybomb that they put a ticker up for and stuff on the 17th.

NOTHING says the decided date of 17th HAS to be changed by us. If the 14th is the date the official campaign wants to push, let them. We can simply keep advertising the 17th & affect a mid-week surge for them.

There is no way we can move the date at this point.

zHorns is correct. It would essentially be a total reset for ALL of the marketing that's already in place.

 

[Jackie Moon]

We can gripe about it all we want. Bottom line; We ALL know they won't, so let's get over it and like Barrex pointed out:



Griping WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING! ACTION WILL! Thus OUR grassroots effort to run a monthly moneybomb...



Simply because that's the method they chose to use. Just a thought, but MAYBE the statistics they have show emails & facebook aren't as effective fundraising tools. I doubt it, but if their data shows it, I'm sure they would believe it over us.

You're right, I did sound like I was griping and I apologize. I don't want to complain, I want to adapt and keep moving forward. I didn't mean to question their use of robo-calls, they certainly know a lot more than I do. I was just genuinely curious if anyone knew why they weren't making it known to more people or putting anything up on the campaign site and calling it a MoneyBomb. I think that actually helps because they haven't announced a different date yet for a MoneyBomb so it seems like we should keep pushing the 17th and see what happens.

I know they won't fully co-operate, but I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not they have at least heard about this yet. I wasn't sure how that works.

I've contacted over 80 pro-Paul Facebook pages, hopefully they will share and have an impact.

I'll contact more tomorrow.

Having a page share this instantly with the thousands of people who like it would be huge. Have you heard back from any of them?

 

[CJPrinter]

You're right, I did sound like I was griping and I apologize. I don't want to complain, I want to adapt and keep moving forward. I didn't mean to question their use of robo-calls, they certainly know a lot more than I do. I was just genuinely curious if anyone knew why they weren't making it known to more people or putting anything up on the campaign site and calling it a MoneyBomb.

Understood, no worries. When you dedicate a month of work to a theme only to have the campaign sort of adopt it is a bit maddening. Even if they would announce a theme a few weeks in advance we would rock it out for them! Your frustration is shared, but that's the tactics they have decided to implement, so here we are. (Heavy Sigh)

I know they won't fully co-operate, but I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not they have at least heard about this yet. I wasn't sure how that works.

Unfortunately, if the past is any indication of the future, even if they have, they won't confirm or deny it.

 

[zHorns]

I'll be launching a promotion page and widgets this weekend.

Time to act is now. We have 13 days left, lots of time to continue spreading this.

 

[Jackie Moon]

Understood, no worries. When you dedicate a month of work to a theme only to have the campaign sort of adopt it is a bit maddening. Even if they would announce a theme a few weeks in advance we would rock it out for them! Your frustration is shared, but that's the tactics they have decided to implement, so here we are. (Heavy Sigh)


Unfortunately, if the past is any indication of the future, even if they have, they won't confirm or deny it.

Yes, that would be so much easier, and not conflict with any involvement between them and grassroots promoters. Yeah I didn't think they'd acknowledge or respond, but I've tried to make a few people at least aware of it if they happen to see it.

I'll be launching a promotion page and widgets this weekend.

Time to act is now. We have 13 days left, lots of time to continue spreading this.

Sounds great. Yes, 13 days left, time to push even harder. I tried imagining what I could have done and how many more people I could have reached if I'd had 13 extra days on April 15th for In It To Win It, and then do that now.

And sadly, I'm doing everything at this point from a design, development, running the Facebook/event pages and have been really pushing to get more pledges/invites but nothing major has come from it. People wonder why the Moneybombs don't make money, when they wait until it's like 3 days before to start promoting.

I wouldn't know anything about how to help with the design or graphics or website, but let me know if you want help with the Facebook page and event.