RIP, Justin Raimondo

[Brian4Liberty]

The ‘Foreign Meddling’ Double-Standard

 

[devil21]

A loss for sure.

Now, I hope those that work for antiwar.com fight tooth and nail to prevent their website from being co-opted.

 

[Sammy]

RIP Justin Raimondo!

 

[Todd]

I have been out of it for a few weeks. Another lost voice of dissent and reason. RIP. He really helped me on my journey. His arguments were well documented and most often (not perfect) Sound.

 

[Todd]

He was married?

Yeah. Imagine that. A gay guy who wasn't snowed by the progressive lefts bullshit.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

A loss for sure.

Now, I hope those that work for antiwar.com fight tooth and nail to prevent their website from being co-opted.

They will hire Sarwark from the LP to run it. New motto: “Anti-War: Dedicated to the extermination of aggressive regimes across the globe, including, but not limited to, Iran, Russia, Syria, Yemen, North Korea, and Venezuela.”

 

[Ender]

Yeah. Imagine that. A gay guy who wasn't snowed by the progressive lefts bull$#@!.

Yep- Justin was awesome.

 

[Warlord]

Ohmy god im shocked and saddened by this news. Ive been reading his articles for over 15 years.


RIP Justin

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They talk a bit about Raimondo at the beginning of this episode 50 mark):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuPVq4lYmaU

 

[Badger Paul]

Requiem im Pacem Justin. This website wouldn't have existed without you!

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I had intended to say nothing, because I'd rather not speak ill of the dead, but this thread keeps going, so I have to say something.

In 2015, Raimondo shit on Rand Paul big time, and shilled for Trump.

He was on the leading edge of the libertarian defection from the Pauls towards retard; I will never forgive that.

That said, prior to that, he did do a lifetime of good service as an anti-war person and was a friend of Murray.

So, I guess I'll say: he was far from a saint, but I'm sorry he's dead.

 

[Origanalist]

I had intended to say nothing, because I'd rather not speak ill of the dead, but this thread keeps going, so I have to say something.

In 2015, Raimondo shit on Rand Paul big time, and shilled for Trump.

He was on the leading edge of the libertarian defection from the Pauls towards retard; I will never forgive that.

That said, prior to that, he did do a lifetime of good service as an anti-war person and was a friend of Murray.

So, I guess I'll say: he was far from a saint, but I'm sorry he's dead.

I can see how you would feel that way, seeing how you made such a bigger impact on the anti war movement.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I can see how you would feel that way, seeing how you made such a bigger impact on the anti war movement.

A person who doesn't have a column on an obscure website shouldn't be allowed to state facts.

Yes, you told me, well played..

 

[Origanalist]

A person who doesn't have a column on an obscure website shouldn't be allowed to state facts.

Yes, you told me, well played..

Obscure my ass, his name is known far and wide.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Obscure my ass, his name is known far and wide.

Then allow me to rephrase and put it more bluntly:

What I said about his extremely treacherous behavior in relation to Trump is true, and his being a prominent writer in no way changes that.

 

[Origanalist]

Then allow me to rephrase and put it more bluntly:

What I said about his extremely treacherous behavior in relation to Trump is true, and his being a prominent writer in no way changes that.

Ya, well, he's in good company. There were quite a few right there with him. Truth be told, Trump isn't turning out as bad as I predicted. No major war started yet, but he can still meet my expectations. The rest of it is just standard shell game, make proclamations about cutting back federal bureaucracy while kowtowing to corporations.

Still all in all he has changed the tone.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Ya, well, he's in good company. There were quite a few right there with him

Tom Woods and Lew Rockwell also attacked Rand BEFORE THE FIRST VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES.

Yep, that's true.

Apparently, Rand wasn't quite pure enough, but Trump was a true libertarian.

Or, maybe, these people just wanted to sell ads on their shitty little websites?

Truth be told, Trump isn't turning out as bad as I predicted. No major war started yet, but he can still meet my expectations. The rest of it is just standard shell game, make proclamations about cutting back federal bureaucracy while kowtowing to corporations.

Great, I suppose you (and the libertarian icons) had the same thoughts about Obama?

He didn't bomb Iran (he made a deal with them, which Trump broke).

He didn't bomb Syria (Trump did, and has more troops there than Obama did).

He droned a lot of people (but not as many as Trump).

He attacked Libya (which Trump supported).

And then Trump massively increased military spending.

But, by George, Trump is somehow a peacenik, because Sean Hannity says so...

...and we all know how much Sean Hannity loves peace (look at how well he treated Ron Paul).

Still all in all he has changed the tone.

Yea, from "wow, the GOP is a warmongering socialist piece of shit which we have to change" to "MAGA OMG who do I blow!?!"

 

[Origanalist]

Tom Woods and Lew Rockwell also attacked Rand BEFORE THE FIRST VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES.

Yep, that's true.

Apparently, Rand wasn't quite pure enough, but Trump was a true libertarian.

Or, maybe, these people just wanted to sell ads on their shitty little websites?





Great, I suppose you (and the libertarian icons) had the same thoughts about Obama?

He didn't bomb Iran (he made a deal with them, which Trump broke).

He didn't bomb Syria (Trump did, and has more troops there than Obama did).

He droned a lot of people (but not as many as Trump).

He attacked Libya (which Trump supported).

And then Trump massively increased military spending.

But, by George, Trump is somehow a peacenik, because Sean Hannity says so...

...and we all know how much Sean Hannity loves peace (look at how well he treated Ron Paul).



Yea, from "wow, the GOP is a warmongering socialist piece of shit which we have to change" to "MAGA OMG who do I blow!?!"

Wait a minute, Obama didn't bomb Syria? (yes he did). No, I don't think Trump is a peacenik, far from it. After his cabinet picks I fully expected him to start another major war. I fucking hate his cozying up to the disgusting Saudi's, his bromance with Duterte, and just a crapload of other things, not the least his copsucking. And I am completely opposed to his fucking with Venezuela and Iran.

I was totally opposed to him while the people mentioned were giving him cover, look it up if you feel the need. My posts are here for anyone to see. What I am saying is I thought he would be worse, that's all. My bar wasn't very high, at all.

He's done the boilerplate repub stuff which kind of surprised me, I don't know why, and his economics are following the same path which doesn't.

Bottom line for me, if he doesn't start another major war I'll be pleasantly surprised and in my book that's nothing to sneeze at.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Wait a minute, Obama didn't bomb Syria? (yes he did).

He didn't bomb the Syrian government; Trump has (twice).

No, I don't think Trump is a peacenik, far from it. After his cabinet picks I fully expected him to start another major war. I fucking hate his cozying up to the disgusting Saudi's, his bromance with Duterte, and just a crapload of other things, not the least his copsucking. And I am completely opposed to his fucking with Venezuela and Iran.

I was totally opposed to him while the people mentioned were giving him cover, look it up if you feel the need. My posts are here for anyone to see. What I am saying is I thought he would be worse, that's all. My bar wasn't very high, at all.

He's done the boilerplate repub stuff which kind of surprised me, I don't know why, and his economics are following the same path which doesn't.

Bottom line for me, if he doesn't start another major war I'll be pleasantly surprised and in my book that's nothing to sneeze at.

Your expectations have gotten shockingly low..

But I well remember you opposing Trump.

There aren't many of us still around who did.

To the point, though, Raimondo didn't oppose him; he pushed him as early as summer 2015 (while simultaneously attacking Rand).

Raimondo was pushing for Trump at exactly the same time that we were dealing with masses of Trump shills here.

He did other good things previously, but what he did in 2015 shouldn't be forgotten just because the man has died.

As I said, I respect him for his previous work, his association with Rothbard.

 

[Origanalist]

He didn't bomb the Syrian government; Trump has (twice).



Your expectations have gotten shockingly low..

But I well remember you opposing Trump.

There aren't many of us still around who did.

To the point, though, Raimondo didn't oppose him; he pushed him as early as summer 2015 (while simultaneously attacking Rand).

Raimondo was pushing for Trump at exactly the same time that we were dealing with masses of Trump shills here.

He did other good things previously, but what he did in 2015 shouldn't be forgotten just because the man has died.

As I said, I respect him for his previous work, his association with Rothbard.

Well, I was of the same opinion of the sudden Trumpification of a bunch of influential names in libertarian circles. Still has me perplexed.

My expectations were very, very low to begin with. Lower than what I've seen. I fully expected us to be engaged in another full military conflict by now. The rest is just theater.