RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[acptulsa]

But yeah...there's no cavitation on the neck (where supposedly the bullet went in) but there is "cavitation" between the shoulder blades? Make it make sense!

I can't. But I suspect the person who can could score a lucrative contract right now, if he knew who to approach.

The cylinder of air between a gun muzzle and a target may hardly be bigger around than a pencil. But it's a very, very long pencil. There is an amount of air there, and the bullet forces it to be somewhere else in a great, big, massive hurry.

 

[Snowball]

Sam links to more info.

Prior to the murder, Izraelis searching for associated people and places.

No surgeons, he never went to a hospital... imo.

 

[acptulsa]

No surgeons, he never went to a hospital... imo.

Maybe. But in a state that requires autopsies of murder victims, there's still going to be a surgeon on the payroll. Right?

Right...?

 

[Snowball]

Maybe. But in a state that requires autopsies of murder victims, there's still going to be a surgeon on the payroll. Right?

Right...?

Yes, or at least one to say so... Mormonland is Zioland.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes, or at least one to say so... Mormonland is Zioland.

So. Yes, surgeons. All Utah surgeons aren't completely irrelevant.

 

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Is any of this accurate.

"NEW: An autopsy WAS performed on Charlie Kirk's body, and the death certificate was issued based on the initial hospital findings, and then Charlie's body was transferred to the medical examiner for the full autopsy the next day.

This is standard procedure in Utah, when ensuring for timely release of the body (for the funeral) while preserving forensic analysis.

Under Utah law, autopsies are required for deaths resulting from violence or homicide.

A detailed autopsy report is due in mid-to-late October, and will account for toxicology, histology, and final reviews.

Preliminary details have been disclosed, confirming a single .30-06 gunshot wound to the neck that severed critical arteries and the cervical spine, leading to rapid blood loss and death.

These other details should be in the report from authorities, prior to closing the case:

A scene investigation, which Examined and documenting the location of death, including photographs, and evidence collected to contextualize the circumstances.

The external postmortem examination, including a detailed physical inspection of the body, clothing, and any visible injuries or marks.

Imaging and testing with X-rays or other radiology to identify fractures, foreign objects, or internal issues without incision, and toxicology screening via blood or fluid samples for drugs, alcohol, or poisons.

A record review, analyzing Charlie's medical history, law enforcement reports, and interviews with family, friends, or witnesses which were used to gather social and health context.

Determination of cause and manner, which is a combination of all findings to classify the death."

 

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[acptulsa]

Is any of this accurate.

Who knows? I've seen some of it confirmed by credible sources, like autopsies being required for murder victims in Utah.

I've also seen too much ado made about the possibility of the heart pumping out all the blood. When a bullet severs the spine in the neck, the heart no longer gets orders to pump. So the part about...

...leading to rapid blood loss and death.

...probably doesn't point to the real cause of death. But that's the only red flag it waves at me.

 

[ClaytonB]

Who knows? I've seen some of it confirmed by credible sources, like autopsies being required for murder victims in Utah.

I've also seen too much ado made about the possibility of the heart pumping out all the blood. When a bullet severs the spine in the neck, the heart no longer gets orders to pump. So the part about...

...probably doesn't point to the real cause of death. But that's the only red flag it waves at me.

Yeah, this is the JFK disinfo-hurricane all over again. Assuming that any of the footage is real, Charlie Kirk clearly died the instant he was shot. The claim is that the bullet lodged in the spine, so the rapid jerking of the upper-body was caused by that, not by the dissipation of the bullet's energy into Charlie's body which, in any case, could not have been that high. He blinked one last time and it was instant lights-out. We know this was not any kind of standard 30-06 load because, at 140 yds or so, it would have nearly taken his head clean off and left the entire inside of the tent looking like a butcher's shop. It had to be a much lower energy round. If it was fired from the barrel of the 30-06 rifle, it would have had to be an under-loaded round using some kind of sabot to deliver a smaller caliber. That's a lot of effort for no apparent reason, so the vastly more likely explanation (assuming any of the footage is real) is that Charlie Kirk was shot with some other caliber. My personal suspicion is that it was a drone-mounted sniper rifle, although I have no material evidence to point to. It just "fits" with everything else happening in this current historical moment.

 

[acptulsa]

Officials in Utah have yet to publicly confirm whether the bullet that fatally struck Charlie Kirk was recovered, a critical piece of evidence in the ongoing assassination trial. The autopsy, carried out under Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Deirdre Amaro, is central to the case but remains shrouded in secrecy, fueling questions about transparency and accountability. FBI Director Kash Patel stated in an interview on Fox News’s Fox & Friends, “I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody,” underscoring the importance of DNA evidence linked to the case while leaving key forensic details, including bullet recovery, undisclosed. At no point has it been officially confirmed that DNA was found directly on the gun itself.

Dr. Deirdre Amaro, Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner and a key figure on Governor Spencer Cox’s Fentanyl Task Force, is under intense scrutiny as she manages the autopsy process in the trial of Tyler Robinson, accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk in an event that captured worldwide attention. Despite her pivotal role, no official public release has been made of the autopsy report or confirmation that the fatal bullet was recovered and matched to the firearm involved.

State law mandates Dr. Amaro conduct the autopsy but does not compel public disclosure of the findings. This silence has raised significant questions, as officials have refrained from confirming whether the bullet was recovered or linked to the rifle—a vintage Mauser bolt-action weapon found wrapped in a towel near the scene. The DNA evidence, publicly acknowledged by FBI Director Kash Patel, establishes a physical connection to the suspect but leaves open questions about forensic completeness.

Dr. Amaro holds multiple board certifications, including forensic pathology and neuropathology, and leads one of the nation’s few fully centralized statewide medical examiner systems. However, the medical examiner’s office has faced criticism. For example, in 2023, Utah declared the death of 16-year-old Arianna Duenez at Vive Adolescent Care—a state-contracted behavioral health facility—“undetermined,” despite the involvement of multiple psychiatric drugs and troubling care failures that led to minor sanctions against the facility. In addition, Utah failed their overall audit of the medical examiner’s office in 2022...

More here:

No Bullet, No Answers: Charlie Kirk Autopsy Under Fire in Utah - AbleChild

Officials in Utah have yet to publicly confirm whether the bullet that fatally struck Charlie Kirk was recovered, a critical piece of evidence in the ongoing assassination trial. The autopsy, carried out by under Utah’s Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Deirdre Amaro, is central to the case but remains...

www.ablechild.org

 

[acptulsa]

This:

 

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Yeah, this is the JFK disinfo-hurricane all over again. Assuming that any of the footage is real, Charlie Kirk clearly died the instant he was shot. The claim is that the bullet lodged in the spine, so the rapid jerking of the upper-body was caused by that, not by the dissipation of the bullet's energy into Charlie's body which, in any case, could not have been that high. He blinked one last time and it was instant lights-out. We know this was not any kind of standard 30-06 load because, at 140 yds or so, it would have nearly taken his head clean off and left the entire inside of the tent looking like a butcher's shop. It had to be a much lower energy round. If it was fired from the barrel of the 30-06 rifle, it would have had to be an under-loaded round using some kind of sabot to deliver a smaller caliber. That's a lot of effort for no apparent reason, so the vastly more likely explanation (assuming any of the footage is real) is that Charlie Kirk was shot with some other caliber. My personal suspicion is that it was a drone-mounted sniper rifle, although I have no material evidence to point to. It just "fits" with everything else happening in this current historical moment.

There may be other information as well, but according to Kolvet, the coroner, not the surgeon who examined Kirk, found the bullet "just beneath the skin".

 

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[acptulsa]

 

[Snowball]

Vallhalla entrance photograph - where Charlie went? Valhalla is the place where the US Marshals take people into the Witness Security Program. They're protected there for a while before they go to their newly assigned location. In other words, Kirk is in the Witness Protection program.

 

[ClaytonB]

There may be other information as well, but according to Kolvet, the coroner, not the surgeon who examined Kirk, found the bullet "just beneath the skin".

The coroner/surgeon may very well be telling the truth as to what they found. Nevertheless, it remains a bald-faced lie that Charlie Kirk was shot with any kind of standard-load 30-06 round from 140 yards. Not even close to believable.

 

[acptulsa]

Vallhalla entrance photograph

You think only one thing on earth is named Valhalla? You think there's a witness protection program safe house that advertises itself with a sign?

Well, I can see you're in love with this theory, so have fun with it while you can.

 

[Snowball]

You think only one thing on earth is named Valhalla? You think there's a witness protection program safe house that advertises itself with a sign?

Well, I can see you're in love with this theory, so have fun with it while you can.

while I can?

 

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Dude should have run the same searches while using Izrael.

I guess I could search as well but errrrr, I don't use google.

 

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The coroner/surgeon may very well be telling the truth as to what they found. Nevertheless, it remains a bald-faced lie that Charlie Kirk was shot with any kind of standard-load 30-06 round from 140 yards. Not even close to believable.

Yah, the entire shooting/hunting community is calling BS on the 306, even with a lighter load.

I was just mentioning that the bullet, as far as we know, wasn't lodged in his spine.

Apparently, it was just chilling right under his skin, which the surgeon just happened to overlook, as he dug into Charlie's neck.