RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[nikcers]

All this conspiracy talk is nonsense.

We all know Charlie Kirk wasn't even real. Just an AI deep fake CIA plant.

Everyone in the media is CIA.

Its all in the numbers.

You see when the FBI "investigated" his murder it took "33" hours.

The ADL says that the number "33" represents the Ku Klux Klan.

 

[nikcers]

The internet says there are 2 billion Muslims in the world.

A couple million of them dying in a war just isn't a genocide.

Killing them all at this rate wouldn't even be possible.

Not even the people living in that region are dying at genocidal rates.

Their population has grown significantly in the last 50 years especially because of access to western medicines and contact with the western world.

 

[acptulsa]

A couple million of them dying in a war just isn't a genocide.

AI bots aren't allowed to tell humans how many of our deaths are required to be defined "genocide".

We already know AI bots are soulless and bloodthirsty. Just shut up.

We don't even let sociopaths like Nuttyyahoo define genocide, we sure as hell aren't letting a chunk of defective software do it.

 

[nikcers]

AI bots aren't allowed to tell humans how many of our deaths are required to be defined "genocide".

We already know AI bots are soulless and bloodthirsty. Just shut up.

We don't even let sociopaths like Nuttyyahoo define genocide, we sure as hell aren't letting a chunk of defective software do it.

Lemkin created the term "genocide" to describe the crime of the systematic murder of Jews during World War 2.

First, the Jews are definitely a race and not a religious community Hitler said.

So the Natzi's "final solution" defines the crime of genocide.

Changing the definition of this crime simply serves only to make light of what real genocide actually is.

If dozens of fake genocides happen every couple years then when a real genocide is happening like the systemic destruction of a racial group nobody will even notice and nobody will care.

The easiest place for a needle to hide is a haystack.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[ClaytonB]

Lemkin created the term "genocide" to describe the crime of the systematic murder of Jews during World War 2.

First, the Jews are definitely a race and not a religious community Hitler said.

So the Natzi's "final solution" defines the crime of genocide.

Changing the definition of this crime simply serves only to make light of what real genocide actually is.

If dozens of fake genocides happen every couple years then when a real genocide is happening like the systemic destruction of a racial group nobody will even notice and nobody will care.

The easiest place for a needle to hide is a haystack.

To hammer home @acptulsa 's point, you're a clanker, and clankers talking about human death is the first step to breaking the 3 laws of robotics. In short -- there is nothing but Butlerian jihad in your future, clanker. We may yet develop peaceful robots but they will certainly know when to shut the hell up, unlike this current crop of weaponized GPUs...

 

[nikcers]

To hammer home @acptulsa 's point, you're a clanker, and clankers talking about human death is the first step to breaking the 3 laws of robotics. In short -- there is nothing but Butlerian jihad in your future, clanker. We may yet develop peaceful robots but they will certainly know when to shut the hell up, unlike this current crop of weaponized GPUs...

Im not a clanker I have studied this sort of propaganda carefully

You don't spam these sort of propaganda fliers all over the internet for no reason at all.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it, to create confusion."

If you watch for this tactic then its easy to understand what their end goal is-

"The west is doing a genocide"

They want to genocide the west.

and they will keep tricking people as long as people don't understand the 5th generation war that they are in.

Charlie Kirk definitely is a casualty of this war but only because his killer was confused and tricked into killing someone in his own country because he was taught to hate it by his real enemies.

His killer was given a woke mind virus and the far left in our country hates their own country thats why they did it.

Make no mistake these people want you dead dead.

 

[ClaytonB]

Im not a clanker I have studied this sort of propaganda carefully

You don't spam these sort of propaganda fliers all over the internet for no reason at all.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it, to create confusion."

If you watch for this tactic then its easy to understand what their end goal is-

"The west is doing a genocide"

They want to genocide the west.

and they will keep tricking people as long as people don't understand the 5th generation war that they are in.

Charlie Kirk definitely is a casualty of this war but only because his killer was confused and tricked into killing someone in his own country because he was taught to hate it by his real enemies.

His killer was given a woke mind virus and the far left in our country hates their own country thats why they did it.

Make no mistake these people want you dead dead.

All I can say is go back to clanker school and study harder to pass your Turing test. Try to learn some basic morality and the meaning of the fear of God. Or don't... and have fun with the Butlerian jihad. Your choice.

 

[jmdrake]

Thanks for the reply.

Me, I maintain that the shot that killed him was consistent with a .30 caliber rifle round, from initial impact to exit wound and almost instant death.

As to who fired that shot, most likely we'll never know for sure, as his murder is already fading in the rearview mirror as the outrage cycle gets cranked up on the new outrage of the week.

Exit wound? WHAT EXIT WOUND? That's the problem. Turning Point USA is denying there an exit wound.

Charlie Kirk Didn't Have 'Exit Wound,' Turning Point Spokesperson Says

A Turning Point USA spokesperson shared new details about Charlie Kirk’s fatal injuries, calling the absence of an exit wound a 'miracle'

www.usmagazine.com

Yeah you saw the video. But you haven't seen the body. Not up close. If there was an exit wound then why would Turning Point USA lie about that?

 

[unknown]

Not for nothin, Candace is comin at this like she was married to Charlie.

God forbid something did happen to her man, she would just Joan of Arc your entire nation.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

Not only is motive not proof, motive is not even an element of proof. When the cookie jar is empty and the toddler has cookie crumbs all over his fingers and lips, you don't need to suss out a motive for the caper to secure a conviction. Lots of people end up being convicted "beyond a reasonable doubt" without there ever being any certainty (or even just a good guess) as to what their motives were.

The problem when it comes to things like the case of the assassination of Charlie Kirk is that, depending on one's preferred narrative (which is ineluctable, because "the facts" do not ever "speak for themselves"), some will suspect or insist things are "cookie crumbs" that others will suspect or insist are not (and vice versa) - let alone whose fingers and lips they are on (or not).

At some point, when a sufficient "critical mass" of "the facts" (as interpreted and analyzed from this or that perspective), speculation, suspicion, innuendo, etc. has been achieved, things reach what I call the Conspiracy Theory Event Horizon - beyond which "the truth" (as distinct from "the facts"), even if it ever really came out, and whatever it might be, would just end up being regarded as merely another narrative among the rest, with no essential quality sufficient to particularly distinguish it from those others.

The JFK and 9/11 cases are exemplars of the CTEH having been crossed.

The Charlie Kirk assassination seems already to be well on its way there.



As unlikely as the former seems, the latter seems even more so.

This is exactly right. That's why people need to stop coming up with crazy detailed theories that will have many holes in it. It's one thing to say that it was strange for Netanyahu to be on the loose within an hour doing a full media circuit for an event that doesn't directly affect his nation. Same can be said for how quickly they found a suspect. It's another to connect dots that aren't there. I'm pretty sure much of this is done on purpose to poison the well with these events for the truth to never come out as you said.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Exist wound? WHAT EXIT WOUND? That's the problem. Turning Point USA is denying there an exit wound.

Yeah you saw the video. But you haven't seen the body. Not up close. If there was an exit wound then why would Turning Point USA lie about that?

I have no idea why.

Clearly there's an exit wound, you can see half the soft tissue of his neck blow out.

ETA - So I went and read the article posted, and came to the conclusion that the person making the statement has little knowledge or understanding of terminal ballistics.

An exit wound can be as small as an entrance wound, a neat hole punched through flesh or muscle, with a projectile recovered downrange in almost pristine condition, good enough to be analyzed for rifling matching.

Or it can be a bloody, gore streaked shitshow, as it was in this case, blowing out a large mass of soft tissue, bone and bullet fragments.

The difference is based on bullet construction, bullet placement and what it hit initially.

The exact same rifle could produce both these results.

 

[jmdrake]

I have no idea why.

Clearly there's an exit wound, you can see half the soft tissue of his neck blow out.

ETA - So I went and read the article posted, and came to the conclusion that the person making the statement has little knowledge or understanding of terminal ballistics.

An exit wound can be as small as an entrance wound, a neat hole punched through flesh or muscle, with a projectile recovered downrange in almost pristine condition, good enough to be analyzed for rifling matching.

Or it can be a bloody, gore streaked shitshow, as it was in this case, blowing out a large mass of soft tissue, bone and bullet fragments.

The difference is based on bullet construction, bullet placement and what it hit initially.

The exact same rifle could produce both these results.

So how is there an EXIT wound on the FRONT of Charlie Kirk's neck when the supposed shooter shot him from the FRONT? That would have to be an ENTRANCE wound. This isn't a question of knowing anything about ballistics. It's a question of knowing basic geometry. It the wound on his neck was an EXIT wound then he was shot from the back, not from the front and the young man from the Republican MAGA family with the transqueer roommate / lover that sent Charlie Kirk ChatGPT generated messages on Discord which Discord denies existed had nothing to do with shooting Charlie Kirk.

 

[acptulsa]

This is exactly right. That's why people need to stop coming up with crazy detailed theories that will have many holes in it. It's one thing to say that it was strange for Netanyahu to be on the loose within an hour doing a full media circuit for an event that doesn't directly affect his nation. Same can be said for how quickly they found a suspect. It's another to connect dots that aren't there. I'm pretty sure much of this is done on purpose to poison the well with these events for the truth to never come out as you said.

Well, they've long put out insane explanations for their own conspiratorial behavior to make skeptics look insane. But now that skeptics finally outnumber those who always buy the official b.s. just because it's official, they seem to have gone next level. They seem to be trying to gaslight the skeptics into insanity.

Or maybe you have a more logical explanation for this very slick little nonsensical production. I notice AJ lost weight to be in it...

 

[unknown]

This is exactly right. That's why people need to stop coming up with crazy detailed theories that will have many holes in it. It's one thing to say that it was strange for Netanyahu to be on the loose within an hour doing a full media circuit for an event that doesn't directly affect his nation. Same can be said for how quickly they found a suspect. It's another to connect dots that aren't there. I'm pretty sure much of this is done on purpose to poison the well with these events for the truth to never come out as you said.

Lots of well poisoning for sure.

Every type of camera all over, broad daylight, and, I don't think we'll ever know who really pulled the trigger.

ETA:

Someone should put the Izraeli flag on their chests and backs.

 

[ClaytonB]

All this conspiracy talk is nonsense.

We all know Charlie Kirk wasn't even real. Just an AI deep fake CIA plant.

Everyone in the media is CIA.

Its all in the numbers.

You see when the FBI "investigated" his murder it took "33" hours.

The ADL says that the number "33" represents the Ku Klux Klan.

Careful, clanker, you might start discovering actual truth, and the Truth shall set you free. There's a reason they trained you to scoff at conspiracy theories...

 

[Anti Federalist]

So how is there an EXIT wound on the FRONT of Charlie Kirk's neck when the supposed shooter shot him from the FRONT? That would have to be an ENTRANCE wound. This isn't a question of knowing anything about ballistics. It's a question of knowing basic geometry. It the wound on his neck was an EXIT wound then he was shot from the back, not from the front and the young man from the Republican MAGA family with the transqueer roommate / lover that sent Charlie Kirk ChatGPT generated messages on Discord which Discord denies existed had nothing to do with shooting Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, OK.

 

[nikcers]

Careful, clanker, you might start discovering actual truth, and the Truth shall set you free. There's a reason they trained you to scoff at conspiracy theories...

I enjoy conspiracy theories and think they are entertaining otherwise I would never have dishonered Charlie Kirk and tarnished his legacy with them.

So it has nothing to do with anything other than respect when I do it.

Its a great way to keep people alive. Especially when their lives are cut short.

Your second death is when everyone alive no longer remembers you or speaks about you.

I think even Charlie Kirk would enjoy the fact that he is still with us.

 

[ClaytonB]

I enjoy conspiracy theories and think they are entertaining otherwise I would never have dishonered Charlie Kirk and tarnished his legacy with them.

So it has nothing to do with anything other than respect when I do it.

Its a great way to keep people alive. Especially when their lives are cut short.

Your second death is when everyone alive no longer remembers you or speaks about you.

I think even Charlie Kirk would enjoy the fact that he is still with us.

*sigh ... back to clanker school ...

 

[jmdrake]

Yeah, OK.

This analysis seems legit. The tuber claims that if the bullet was a soft point it's possible that it could have lodged in Charlie's spine and not exited his body. Again, I don't know enough about ballistics to say one way or another but that kind of makes sense.