RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[acptulsa]

I doubt that the text messages are fake in the sense of not being messages between the two people they are purported to be between. But I think they're fake in the sense that this wasn't a genuine impromptu conversation with genuine surprise and ignorance on the part of the other party. It looks like a scripted exchange that was performed in order to look like that.

Undoubtedly that. Of course, many people are still calling them Discord posts. So the misinformation, intentional and otherwise, is very thick on the ground. The few facts of the matter that have been shared with us are nearly buried under it.

 

[Lifesoup]

I've seen cell phone video capture what looks like a round bullet in flight at the range. I suspect it is actually sunlight reflecting off the bullet and not the bullet itself otherwise it would look like a long rod.

 

[acptulsa]

I've seen cell phone video capture what looks like a round bullet in flight at the range. I suspect it is actually sunlight reflecting off the bullet and not the bullet itself otherwise it would look like a long rod.

One, we only ever see things when and because light eminates from or bounces off of it. Two, light can flash more intently than usual from something even if it isn't polished to a mirror surface, but that's only flat things, because the sun is big and reflects of a fair surface area.

About the only thing a camera can catch that way is a light colored moth.

I still want to see someone talk about which rooftops actually had line of sight on Kirk despite the tent.

 

[Invisible Man]

Which is a reasonable take.

But why then make it sound as though it was written by a 50+ year old FBI goon.

Why not script it as though they were actually communicating as they normally would, as two 21yos.

Because it was written by someone who watches TV and who was trying too hard to make it sound like what they think someone under those circumstances would say.

 

[Lifesoup]

One, we only ever see things when and because light eminates from or bounces off of it. Two, light can flash more intently than usual from something even if it isn't polished to a mirror surface, but that's only flat things, because the sun is big and reflects of a fair surface area.

About the only thing a camera can catch that way is a light colored moth.

I still want to see someone talk about which rooftops actually had line of sight on Kirk despite the tent.

ok - but I have video from the range just like I said...
May not be roof top. I agree the sight line is obscured from there

 

[ClaytonB]

I've seen cell phone video capture what looks like a round bullet in flight at the range. I suspect it is actually sunlight reflecting off the bullet and not the bullet itself otherwise it would look like a long rod.

Correct. I saw that claim in the video and was taken aback. You need an ultra-high shutter speed to resolve a bullet in-flight. I don't know what the typical cellphone camera shutter-speed is, but it's not even in the ballpark. The bullet is traveling fast enough that as the scan-lines in the CCD array (the equivalent of the "film" in a digital camera) update, the bullet will have moved from one scan-line to the next and even during the scan-line. So, on each scan-line where the bullet is present, the bullet will appear elongated. In addition, between scan-lines, the bullet will be "smeared", like this:

xxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx

The scan-lines won't "line up" because the bullet moved a significant distance between scan-lines. In addition, because the light reflected from the bullet is an extremely short pulse at any given angle, the bullet will seem to be "translucent", it will not achieve full opacity since each cell in the CCD array is going to register the average color incident on it for the duration it is active. That will include a small amount of light from the bullet, but mostly light from the surrounding area.

 

[Intrepid]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

 

[TheTexan]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

Considering that he was featured on South Park, I'd say a lot of people have heard of him

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

I have no idea what you could be possibly talking about, all other matters have been resolved to satisfaction

 

[unknown]

I've seen cell phone video capture what looks like a round bullet in flight at the range. I suspect it is actually sunlight reflecting off the bullet and not the bullet itself otherwise it would look like a long rod.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[Anti Federalist]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

I dunno...

Her?

 

[Anti Globalist]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

Jeffrey Epstein? Is it Jeffery Epstein we have not heard a peep about?

 

[acptulsa]

Jeffrey Epstein? Is it Jeffery Epstein we have not heard a peep about?

Ukraine? Venezuela? Gaza?

This is all self-admitted opinion, but I found myself nodding along with...

 

[acptulsa]

Interesting information on the bizjet. I don't think I agree that no one could shoot someone at "approximately 2:05" and be on a jet leaving the ground of a small airport five minutes away by 2:11, but additional evidence could change my mind.

 

[Lifesoup]

Interesting information on the bizjet.

That account is significantly different than other accounts I have read/heard. Most are saying the plane went dark; turned off their ADS-B and was seen doing a dark landing and taxi straight into a hanger in Wendover. I've even read that the fella tweeting about the dark landing had his account nuked on twitter. The plane's owner appears to have connections to Chadbad Lubavitch Utah...

 

[acptulsa]

This character spends the first eight and a half minutes quoting a Discord chat, attributing as his source the New York Times, which was supposedly Robinson and others, with posts going back to the 7th. I don't have a subscription to that particular parakeet cage liner and don't want one, but I did get far enough on its website before it demanded money to see it had a couple of articles on that Discord from after the murder. Does anyone have a more reliable source than the Slimes and this goofball in the video?

 

[acptulsa]

I found this, which only shows one post from Robinson. That was thirty hours after the shooting, and could as easily have been done by Twiggs or whatever FBI flunkie Twiggs gave Robinson's password to.

Tyler Robinson's Discord messages revealed

Journalist Ken Klippenstein has published Discord messages which reportedly belong to alleged Charlie Kirk gunman, Tyler Robinson.

www.newsweek.com

 

[acptulsa]

Interesting question.



Doesn't appear to be completely unfounded.

From USU to the CIA and Back

Political science instructor teaches from experience.

www.usu.edu

Reading students’ papers on world cultures and politics may seem a long way from writing daily briefs for the president and U.S. defense secretary.

But, both are part of life for a Utah State University political science instructor. She remembers feeling as modest as any undergraduate early in her government career.

“You have to learn to accept things with grace because you are going to be wrong some of the time,” said Jeannie Johnson, a former intelligence and political officer for the State Department and CIA. “It is a real humbler.”

Johnson’s regional specialties on the former Yugoslavia comes from her experiences working for the U.S. government. She also conducts research on the Al-Quaeda terrorist network. She earned her bachelor’s and master’s degrees from USU and currently teaches in the university’s political science department.

“USU has a lot of assets,” Johnson said. “Students here get a lot of attention that they wouldn’t get elsewhere. Professors aren’t removed - the students matter. The faculty is constantly trying to offer students new opportunities. That is how I actually got involved with the CIA.”

Johnson was working as a USU instructor when she caught the eye of Larry Booth, a USU professor and CIA officer...

 

[acptulsa]

Well, now. This clears everything up!

 

[Liberty_Tree]

Interesting information on the bizjet. I don't think I agree that no one could shoot someone at "approximately 2:05" and be on a jet leaving the ground of a small airport five minutes away by 2:11, but additional evidence could change my mind.

A valid point made in that video's comment section ''We need airport surveillance to see who and how many got on or off that plane just after the shooting.''