RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[TheCount]

Why is this so hard to understand?

Why do some of "our" folks insist on inventing convoluted conspiracies (that do nothing but cause FUD and prevent a proper response to an immediate threat) to explain what the Queer Race Communists have been fucking shouting from the rooftops for years now: "We're coming to kill you. We want you dead."

There has to be millions of examples of QRCs in just the last few days, saying some variation of: "Charlie Kirk eliminated, who do we kill next".

When they say they want you dead, when they say they will kill you: believe them when they say that.

Millions of gays are coming for you! Millions!

 

[Occam's Banana]

There is no peaceful compromise to be found with these people, nor can any stable equilibrium be achieved.

"JOIN SEPARATE, or DIE."

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[TheCount]

Can someone explain, I keep seeing comments regarding the gunman "breaking down the firearm" only to reassemble it prior to disposing of it ?

People on the internet desperately trying to invent a theory of the crime that fits with their priors.

Someone just made that up and everyone else ran with it.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Oh, look at the time! It's a quarter past never-miss-a-chance-to-posture-and-grab-power o'clock:

 

[unknown]

People on the internet desperately trying to invent a theory of the crime that fits with their priors.

Someone just made that up and everyone else ran with it.

Well, there's the video of him dropping down from the roof.

The backpack is visible but otherwise it's difficult to tell whether he's holding the rifle.

I guess the assumption is that the rifle isn't visible because he dismantled it?

https://files.catbox.moe/t886lk.mp4

 

[ClaytonB]

What is the Left's obsession with Charlie Kirk's widow?? Talk about hatred...

 

[ClaytonB]

Well, there's the video of him dropping down from the roof.

The backpack is visible but otherwise it's difficult to tell whether he's holding the rifle.

I guess the assumption is that the rifle isn't visible because he dismantled it?

https://files.catbox.moe/t886lk.mp4

From the other angles, it can be seen that he gets up immediately after firing and begins running. So, there was no "stop and disassemble". If he stashed the rifle in the backpack butt-first, only part of the barrel would have been sticking out. The barrel is a matte gun-metal finish, which will silhouette very well against the light colored roof from the angle of the security cam footage, so would not necessarily have been visible to that camera. And when the pack is dropped to the ground, it can only be a couple frames because he yeeted it down, then jumped. So, we're talking a few scan-lines over a few frames that could have just not been picked up by the camera which, after all, is just a physical device, not magic.

 

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[tebowlives]

Sometimes I forget this. 50 seconds in is the reminder

 

[69360]

People on the internet desperately trying to invent a theory of the crime that fits with their priors.

Someone just made that up and everyone else ran with it.

I don't know, I watched Netanyahu dance around and never specifically deny that Israel killed Kirk. Then I watched Kirk's wife talk about forces and they killed her husband. It's not too hard to come up with a theory from that.

 

[acptulsa]

Why do some of "our" folks insist on inventing convoluted conspiracies...?

Because...

They're cranking them out by the classful:

The psyop is real. You don't win by treating the symptoms, you win by rooting out the cause.

It's not a coincidence that things have changed so radically since the 20th Century. There is a source of all of this.

 

[Okie RP fan]

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Do you see this is what the left does EVERY TIME?

They PIVOT and SQUIRM their way out of ANY RESPONSIBILITY. Anything that can tie them down logically, morally, etc. they just project it back on to other people. They do it every time and in every debate.

The left is full of weasel people who have no anchor point beyond themselves and their imaginary utopias so this "allows" them to turn every situation around and blame others. They are shameless shit stirrers beyond redemption.

 

[acptulsa]

At this early stage, it may be difficult to substantiate, despite the fact that Izrael has the means, motive and opportunity.

And depending on what our government chooses to disclose, we will probably be forced to speculate, as usual.

We don't know who did what on that Discord chat, and very likely, we will never be told. Already the selective nature of the information released is striking. He was coordinating with someone to pick up his gun. Who? Public buildings never leave the door to the roof unlocked. Who unlocked it for him? There is evidence he got himself connected to Antifa. What chapter? What's the story with this diversion character Winn?

There are clearly and obviously figures who worked with him toward this end. I really don't think he would have done this without someone convincing him Kirk was some kind of threat to decency. I really don't think he would have done this if he weren't part of something, if he weren't getting the reassurance that comes from being a member of a team on a mission.

Nothing I've seen about him suggests to me that he's some kind of lone wolf self-starter. He went home and told Deputy Daddy what he did and let himself be led to the police station.

Impressionable young people are being radicalized and used for horrible purposes, and then thrown to the wolves. And the people doing it are having their asses covered by the FBI. Time after time these highly political and heavily publicized incidents see FBI meddling in state and local crimes, where no state line is crossed, and what is missing from the information we get is significant.

Somebody is cranking out Manchurian Candidates. The FBI is covering their asses. That's what's obvious to me.

 

[Okie RP fan]

To add further to my comment above, the left is so sure now this shooter was right wing and are loudly projecting it on all of their leftist controlled domains across the Internet because "evidence." Same thing for the right.

Someone who commits murder like this is unwell (in a number of ways), no matter what the politics are behind them.

 

[Okie RP fan]

Nothing about toning down rhetoric, holding the media accountable, or getting people back into meaningful groups and purposes such as church, etc. (because we've evolved passed that and are too cool). He does make mention of addressing mental health with more money, but we know politicians haven't taken that subject seriously.

We are in a broken society that is purposely being torn apart.

 

[acptulsa]

@Anti Federalist the thing I find so hard to understand is how small the number of people really is who keep asking, "Who issued the stand down order at Butler and why does Trump seem fine with it?

There is more here than meets the eye. There has to be. It's being hidden from us, but something is there.

 

[CaptUSA]

Millions of gays are coming for you! Millions!

We know who you are, you evil son of a bitch. You revealed yourself.

 

[acptulsa]

Can someone explain, I keep seeing comments regarding the gunman "breaking down the firearm" only to reassemble it prior to disposing of it ?

I've said that myself. It all goes back to the jumping off the roof vid. Problem is that's a low res vid. I need to go look at it again and see if I can find a few pixels that might suggest he jumped down with the rifle fully assembled. I posted a vid of someone who believes he saw that, and it explains how the scope got shoved out of its proper place on the rifle.

That's another thing missing from what we're being fed. Those still shots they circulated from a stairwell are obviously snipped from a vid that shows motion. It could tell us if he's still walking like he has a gun barrel in his pants leg. It could tell us how he got roof access. We haven't seen it. I doubt we ever will.

 

[acptulsa]

One solution is to take back America's churches

How many of them were ever God's to begin with? Many churches have been part of the problem since the fall of Rome -- during parts of history, most of them. Even the ones that aren't get suckered into being part of the problem part of the time. I still remember a Zion propaganda Seder meal program in the fellowship hall of a normally fine Presbyterian church fifty years ago. Every televangelist channel is paid commercial programs from Israel, with something other than love.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. But a big part of why churches lost their place in society is because a church isn't God, it's fallible men trying to grasp a path to God. And it has long been a severe temptation to provide parishioners the illusion that they're in the club, rather than providing them with help and guidance walking the rigorous path to the strait door. Because, after all, the customer is always right.

 

[CaptUSA]