Riots in London

[Acala]

People who wantonly steal and destroy the property of their neighbors deserve to get shot. The fact that their government sucks and the cops suck does not in the slightest absolve them for violating the rights of innocent people.

The huge and unsupported jump in UWDude's "argument" is that bad government justifies ignoring EVERYONE'S rights. It doesn't.

Furthermore, the idea that any significant percentage of these rioters are actually motivated politically is not evident from what I have seen. On the contrary, they appear to be taking advantage of a mob situation to have a looting party.

 

[Cowlesy]

Oh wait, but you were the one advocating people go out in the streets with baseball bats and crack some skulls.

And, um, when are you going to apologize for calling the victim that all this started over an attempted cop-murderer?

Is Ron Paul forums all about taking the police at their word, before there is even any kind of investigation?

Hell yes people should go out and crack some skulls to protect their property. What? Should I just let you torch my home because you have some angst against crooked cops?

Puhlease.

 

[ctiger2]

The Free Market isn't the best creator of Jobs either. They'd rather speculate and loot, with no regards to the general welfare...all about that "Invisible Hand."

Most if not all productive jobs in the US were/are created in the free market. What you're referring to is the fascist govt aspect of this country. The fascist part is the one that speculates and loots with no regard.

 

[UWDude]

Hell yes people should go out and crack some skulls to protect their property. What? Should I just let you torch my home because you have some angst against crooked cops?

Puhlease.

In case you missed this part:

And, um, when are you going to apologize for calling the victim that all this started over an attempted cop-murderer?

Is Ron Paul forums all about taking the police at their word, before there is even any kind of investigation? What made you so sure the police were telling the truth? What made you the great all-seeing witness that knew he wasn't just minding his own business, riding in a taxi-cab? You were sure from the beginning he deserved to DIE. Yes, be murdered, you were justifying it from the outset. So don't talk to me about these forums not advocating violence, it was you who first started with the lusty vindication of murder of a young man.

I'd also like to point out how glibly you took the murder of someone, trying to turn it into some comedy show, talking about him prancing around. Say that to his grieving parents faces.


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Furthermore, the idea that any significant percentage of these rioters are actually motivated politically is not evident from what I have seen. On the contrary, they appear to be taking advantage of a mob situation to have a looting party.

None of them are politically motivated. Why should they be. This is obvious rage and opportunism to fight the rage and opportunism spilt upon them. Nothing is politically motivated anymore. Nobody thinks about the good of their own country any more. Nobody thinks about how their stupid laws hurt their neighbors. Everything is about property values and insurance rates and how the system works and making a paycheck. That is just the way it is.

 

[Cowlesy]

In case you missed this part:




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None of them are politically motivated. Why should they be. This is obvious rage and opportunism to fight the rage and opportunism spilt upon them. Nothing is politically motivated anymore. Nobody thinks about the good of their own country any more. Nobody thinks about how their stupid laws hurt their neighbors. Everything is about property values and insurance rates and how the system works and making a paycheck. That is just the way it is.

So, once the investigation is done and they find the police had cause, are you going to go back to all the people you randomly beat, property you destroyed, and pay medical bills, restitution?

So, once the investigation is done and they find the police did NOT have cause, are you going to go back to all the people you randomly beat, property you destroyed, and say "YOU ALL DESERVED IT BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID COP. O'DOYLE RULES."

 

[UWDude]

Hell yes people should go out and crack some skulls to protect their property. What? Should I just let you torch my home because you have some angst against crooked cops?

Puhlease.

So when do I get to go smash up the tow company and the parking police? They stole my car and held it for ransom. can I beat the meter maid with a bat from amazon.com next time I see her?

Should I have just gone to the tow yard, and shot the people up, and took my car back?

 

[UWDude]

If this was the only time in history, the London police did something corrupt, then tried to use their power to cover the corruption. There wouldn't be any riots. If it was the only time this year, there would not be any riots. If it was the only time this month, there would not be any riots.

Riots are not just some unseen natural disaster that spring out of nothing.

 

[AuH20]

So now these gangs have shakedown checkpoints?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mingham-people-forced-strip-naked-street.html

 

[Cowlesy]

So when do I get to go smash up the tow company and the parking police? They stole my car and held it for ransom. can I beat the meter maid with a bat from amazon.com next time I see her?

Should I have just gone to the tow yard, and shot the people up, and took my car back?

You can petition for redress in all of those situations in a court of law. Defending your home from being torched is not equal to attacking the tow truck driver because you were in violation of an idiotic law.

You can play this game all day long but you are never going to convince me that violence/rioting is justified against random people and property like what's going on. If you go try and set someone's house on fire for the lulz and get a louisville slugger to the dome by the homeowner, you earned it.

 

[UWDude]

So now these gangs have shakedown checkpoints?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mingham-people-forced-strip-naked-street.html

looks like they learned a tactic or two in their encounters with the police.

 

[Cowlesy]

So now these gangs have shakedown checkpoints?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mingham-people-forced-strip-naked-street.html

Didn't you see? Some guy got shot by a cop so now it's OK to mug random people on the streets. UWDude is that you? Kid has cool jeans, don't blame you.

 

[UWDude]

You can petition for redress in all of those situations in a court of law.

No I can't, and you know it. I will never see that $430 again. You know damn well I can "petition", but that they will never give ti back, or change their stupid laws. They stole from me, because they could, and they need that money to run their bureaucracy.

Didn't you see? Some guy got shot by a cop so now it's OK to mug random people on the streets. UWDude is that you? Kid has cool jeans, don't blame you.

Yeah, that is me, I was just making sure he didn't have any weapons on him. I scored some cash, which I knew he got from selling drugs, and a nice watch too, which I also knew he got from selling drugs. And those jeans, yeah, he is definitely a drug dealer. I am putting it in a locker for a few years, and then I am going to sell it at an auction, so I can use it to pay myself.

 

[juleswin]

---or---

Now it is shown the police have no proof of any shoot out, and the bullet lodged in a police radio they claimed was his, is actually one of their own. But there has been tons of evidenced presented lately that the police are CORRUPT AS HELL.

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I'm glad to see London being burnt and looted. Serves them right for burning and looting Libya.

This. If anything, it distracts them from the dead and destruction they are imposing on Libya and its people. This is Karma on the collective of the British people who sat silently as their govt killed Libyans

 

[AuH20]

Didn't you see? Some guy got shot by a cop so now it's OK to mug random people on the streets. UWDude is that you? Kid has cool jeans, don't blame you.

If this happens over here, I'm going Charles Bronson on these fools. And I hate the government I might add.

 

[UWDude]

This. If anything, it distracts them from the dead and destruction they are imposing on Libya and its people. This is Karma on the collective of the British people who sat silently as their govt killed Libyans

and Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Iran, and all the African countries where many of these rioters ancestors come from that are hated so much. Burning, pillaging and looting is what Brits do best.

 

[showpan]

Some of the people who were interviewed said the riots were happening because people are out of jobs and the govt is overlooking them. They feel that the govt should do "Something" in order to create jobs. But the reality is that govt dosnt create jobs its individuals in the free markets that do.

In reality, they sold them out just as they have done here using "free market" lingo that has done nothing but eliminate their jobs. The UK and most of Europe know who has sold them out. I can't read most of their languages but NWO stands out on a lot of protest signs. Maybe this is why the media here doesn't cover much of it. It will spread here soon enough as more and more people have become aware of what is actually happening.

 

[wannaberocker]

Wrong, you blame the politicians who make the laws... And the media workers who prop them up... AND the police who enforce them... AND the peopel who work for such politicians.... AND the people who vote for the politicians... AND all the rest of the people who do nothing but sit idly by and cluck their tongues then pat themselves on the back for being such rule following little piglets at the teets of their queen.

Your Sir are off your rocker.

 

[Pericles]

People who wantonly steal and destroy the property of their neighbors deserve to get shot. The fact that their government sucks and the cops suck does not in the slightest absolve them for violating the rights of innocent people.

The huge and unsupported jump in UWDude's "argument" is that bad government justifies ignoring EVERYONE'S rights. It doesn't.

Furthermore, the idea that any significant percentage of these rioters are actually motivated politically is not evident from what I have seen. On the contrary, they appear to be taking advantage of a mob situation to have a looting party.

That ^^^ right there. Those who steal property in my AO will be shot. Those who attack others in my AO will be shot. Those who vandalize other's property in my AO will be shot.

I and my associates stand for civilization, the rule of law, and the Constitution of the United States.Our duty is to protect the rights and property of our fellow citizens against the umbrages of land pirates and their ilk.

 

[UWDude]

That ^^^ right there. Those who steal property in my AO will be shot. Those who attack others in my AO will be shot. Those who vandalize other's property in my AO will be shot.

I and my associates stand for civilization, the rule of law, and the Constitution of the United States.Our duty is to protect the rights and property of our fellow citizens against the umbrages of land pirates and their ilk.

Unless, of course, it's the cops stealing property. Then you will do nothing of the sort.

 

[Pericles]

and Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Iran, and all the African countries where many of these rioters ancestors come from that are hated so much. Burning, pillaging and looting is what Brits do best.

Very seldom do I -rep on this board, but the temptation to do so is growing stronger with each of your posts which lead me to believe you have no respect for the rights of people not to be assaulted or their property destroyed based on your concept of "social justice".

When you get to the point that random violence is acceptable, than there should be no surprise when you are the target of said violence.