Rick Perry makes his alcoholism to homosexuality comparison (again)

[PaulConventionWV]

i find that unfortunate. They must feel terrible about themselves and constantly wonder why God would put them into existence as an abomination. What a tremendously horrible life they must have to lead.

My prayers go out to those lost souls to see the true light and find acceptance of themselves as they are so that they can enjoy all of the wonders that life in this world has to offer.

Wow, somebody get me a tissue.

Your words just... speak to me, man... they speak to me.

No, I think the point is that people should, rather than "accept" what people say they are, they should strive to become what they want to be and anybody who stands in their way while telling them heart-wrenching stories about how they're making the "wrong" decision is truly a hypocrite and an enemy to freedom.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Seems like a good comparison to me. What's the problem?

I hate to use semantics on you, but I do believe it is important to make the distinction between a comparison and an analogy. Nobody is comparing homosexuality to alcoholism. That most certainly would be apples to oranges. What he IS doing, is giving a very valid analogy.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I am starting to feel a little bit sorry for Perry, he really has some inner demons going on. Pathetic actually.

There we go again with the implication that people who talk bad about things must be doing them. Why do people accept this garbage as valid?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

The funny thing about this whole thing is that rumors have gone around for YEARS here in Texas that Rick Perry is bi.

Yep, everybody loves a good rumor.

And the rumor about people who speak out against homosexuality is ALWAYS the same -- they're really closeted homosexuals, themselves, who are struggling with their inner tendencies.

What a load of horse shit.

 

[Guitarzan]

Yep, everybody loves a good rumor.

And the rumor about people who speak out against homosexuality is ALWAYS the same -- they're really closeted homosexuals, themselves, who are struggling with their inner tendencies.

What a load of horse shit.

Methinks somebody's feeling a bit insecure...

 

[William Tell]

Methinks somebody's feeling a bit insecure...

No, he's right about the horse shit thing, I see straight guys get called homo all the time for saying that lifestyle is weird. Except I have heard some stuff about Rick Perry in particular, that may or may not be true.

 

[otherone]

Why wouldn't you want gay people to have the option to change themselves?

Homosexuals have the freedom to change themselves, just as heterosexuals do.

 

[Guitarzan]

No, he's right about the horse shit thing, I see straight guys get called homo all the time for saying that lifestyle is weird. Except I have heard some stuff about Rick Perry in particular, that may or may not be true.

Yeah. I was talking about him, in particular.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Methinks somebody's feeling a bit insecure...

Of course somebody had to say this... because, OF COURSE.

I'm not, but of course I could never convince you of that because no matter what I say hereafter, I'm really just fighting against myself all along. You can't win an argument in which people automatically frame everything you say as an inner struggle against desires to join the people they ostensibly support.

I'm done with this.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Homosexuals have the freedom to change themselves, just as heterosexuals do.

Yes, as they should. That's my point.

 

[Guitarzan]

Of course somebody had to say this... because, OF COURSE.

I'm not, but of course I could never convince you of that because no matter what I say hereafter, I'm really just fighting against myself all along. You can't win an argument in which people automatically frame everything you say as an inner struggle against desires to join the people they ostensibly support.

I'm done with this.

Heh...of course I jest. i just thought you kinda stepped into that one and couldn't help myself.


But it also crossed my mind that you made that thread asking the forum for advice on whether to kiss a girl on a first date, which is an answer that comes to real men naturally, without outside input.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Heh...of course I jest. i just thought you kinda stepped into that one and couldn't help myself.


But it also crossed my mind that you made that thread asking the forum for advice on whether to kiss a girl on a first date, which is an answer that comes to real men naturally, without outside input.

So you're kidding, but then you simultaneously imply that you're not kidding because of a joke thread I started.

Not to mention, you seem to be a gay supporter, which is fine, but then you throw the "real man" label at me? I am no less of a man than you, sir, and if you must ask, if it had come to that moment with that girl, I would not have hesitated. I didn't need to ask, I was just curious.

Thanks for being passive-aggressive, though.

 

[Voluntarist]

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[acptulsa]

It's the choice of his analogy that brought him the scrutiny he's now blessed with. He would have run into the same problem if he had compared left-handedness to alcoholism - left-handedness being something very analogous to homosexuality but not very analogous to alcoholism.

Do you know what alcoholism is?

Alcoholics aren't people who drink. Alcoholics are people who have considerable trouble controlling their drinking. Alcoholics aren't people who say, 'Let's do whiskey instead of beer.' Alcoholics are people who say, 'I can't have had enough because there's still some in the bottle.'

 

[Carlybee]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/20/rick-perry-gay-alcoholism-mistake/11103393/


Rick says remarks were a mistake

 

[Carlybee]

Yep, everybody loves a good rumor.

And the rumor about people who speak out against homosexuality is ALWAYS the same -- they're really closeted homosexuals, themselves, who are struggling with their inner tendencies.

What a load of horse shit.

Hey I didn't write an ebook about but there's one out there so either there's some truth to the rumors or he did something to get on someone's poo poo list. No pun intended. I didn't just pull that out of my ass. Again no pun intended.



http://gawkerdotcom/5868489/all-your-rick-perry-gay-sex-rumors-collected-in-one-handy-book. Link broken for sensitivity to the butt hurt

 

[Keith and stuff]

Is Rick Perry an alcoholic or a homosexual? Not that there is anything wrong with either. After all, President Bush is an alcoholic. And even the president on House of Cards is an alcoholic.

 

[Voluntarist]

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