Richard Gilbert: Plaintiffs Wanted So We Can Write-In Ron Paul in All 50 States!

[James_Madison_Lives]

Ballot Access News edited by Richard Winger writes:

No group of voters (except for ex-felons and felons, and residents the District of Columbia, and of the U.S. territorial possessions) is treated worse than voters who cast a write-in vote for president, even if the presidential candidate has filed for write-in status.

States don’t tally any write-in votes for president until December, and sometimes January. Certain areas of the country illegally don’t count them at all. Washington, Oregon, Alaska, and the District of Columbia all refuse to provide a tally for the declared write-in candidates. In the case of the District of Columbia, this is especially egregious, since a D.C. court explicitly ordered such tallies for declared write-in presidential candidates, in 1975, in the aftermath of the Kamins v D.C. Board of Elections lawsuit. Also, in the case of Oregon, the State Supreme Court ruled in 1945 that the Oregon Constitution protects write-in votes.

The issue of write-in votes counting is ripe to be revisited. Why shouldn't write-in votes be counted? If a candidate meets the age and US citizenship requirements for an office, why shouldn't I be able to vote for whomever I want? Rather than the choices foisted upon me by a system as corrupt and rotten as what we just saw at the RNC?

Candidate declarations are arbitrary hurdles. I've been written for town selectman lots of times, and only found out when someone told me. If you don't want the office you simply don't accept it, in the unlikely event that you win.

Now Lawyers for Ron Paul is seeking to ask a federal court just that question.

From my email today. Contact emails provided.

For more details go to:
http://jana-murray.com/richard-gilbert-write-in-lawsuit-2012/

Pepper Draper Urgent Action Needed!!
Let's get Dr. Paul on the ballot in ALL 50 states!!

IF you love Ron Paul, THIS needs 2 GO viral right now! Mr. Richard Gilbert, attorney, is drafting a Federal Lawsuit in the 9th Circuit Supreme Court stating that all states must be equal in our rights to "write in" a candidate of our choosing.

You can be part of this, You MUST send an email to richardattorney AT gmail.com or libertybelle2012 AT gmail.com & give Mr. Richard Gilbert/Pepper Draper your contact info. By doing so you will represent your state as a Plaintiff. You only need to be a registered voter in the state you want to represent and nothing more.

He will be filing in the next couple of days and needs names now. Mr. Gilbert is trying to get Dr. Paul on a write in ballot in all 50 states..

PLEASE COPY & PASTE AND PASS THIS ON!...I just did....OUR Country needs REAL hope and change! RON is our hope on earth! Vote Romney and you will get the same or worse results than what we've seen from Obama! BECOME ACTIVE FOR THE GOOD!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Oh geez.

 

[LBennett76]

I heard rumblings of this last week but no one could find the source. I came here looking for something about it and this is the first I've seen it mentioned. At least now I can tell the person who heard this where it came from.
I wish write-ins counted though. My state doesn't count them unless registered.

 

[sailingaway]

I heard rumblings of this last week but no one could find the source. I came here looking for something about it and this is the first I've seen it mentioned. At least now I can tell the person who heard this where it came from.
I wish write-ins counted though. My state doesn't count them unless registered.

All states count the 'undervote' which is the amount between the number that vote for anyone and the number who vote for President. It is a no confidence, or 'none of the above' vote, imho.

 

[opal]

Contact info sent - Florida

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I'm not getting involved in this one with him. I spent way too much time researching the last one, found something really good for him, and he didn't even use it.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

I'm not getting involved in this one with him. I spent way too much time researching the last one, found something really good for him, and he didn't even use it.

what did you find?

 

[opal]

Not even basic contact info?

 

[CPUd]

what did you find?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...wsuit-NOTE-Having-the-lawsuit-not-up-4-debate

it's all in there ^^^


Based on the court record from his previous cases, I doubt Gilbert is qualified to take this one on; the scope is simply too great.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...wsuit-NOTE-Having-the-lawsuit-not-up-4-debate

it's all in there ^^^


Based on the court record from his previous cases, I doubt Gilbert is qualified to take this one on; the scope is simply too great.

Yet no one else does. Is that because no one else is actually committed to Paul being president?

Does Gilbert really want him to be president? Is he trying to make it happen and he is incompetent? Or is he "controlled opposition" as some like to say?

Is Paul even interested in being President?

Was he ever? Were either of the campaigns for real?

So many carrots. So many sticks.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yet no one else does. Is that because no one else is actually committed to Paul being president?

He's not going to be President. We lost. Badly.

 

[opal]

He's not going to be President. We lost. Badly.

so.. how does an attempt at ballot access in all 50 states hurt anything?

 

[Working Poor]

so.. how does an attempt at ballot access in all 50 states hurt anything?

Because it is sucking our energy when we could be focused on the liberty people running for state and local offices

 

[No1butPaul]

Because it is sucking our energy when we could be focused on the liberty people running for state and local offices

How is that possibly sucking "our" energy ... maybe Gilbert's energy, but he still seems to have a lot. At least enough to make videos.

 

[PointsOfOrder]

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[CPUd]

Gilbert can keep suing people for eternity- that's not the issue. The issue is the "getting plaintiffs" part. Between Gilbert's adventures and the incessant pushing for GJ on the other sites (which I believe to be connected), we are beginning to see the results, which include people losing their Committee positions for coming out publicly against the GOP nominee.

I strongly suggest anyone who wishes to maintain their positions in state and local parties to stay far away from this Gilbert character.

 

[opal]

Because it is sucking our energy when we could be focused on the liberty people running for state and local offices

how much energy does it take to send contact information? A quick email? Gee.. ya think somebody's not gonna get elected because of those 45 seconds

 

[ChristopherShelley]

Gilbert can keep suing people for eternity- that's not the issue. The issue is the "getting plaintiffs" part. Between Gilbert's adventures and the incessant pushing for GJ on the other sites (which I believe to be connected), we are beginning to see the results, which include people losing their Committee positions for coming out publicly against the GOP nominee.

I strongly suggest anyone who wishes to maintain their positions in state and local parties to stay far away from this Gilbert character.

Why do you believe they are connected? Do you have any evidence, or is your word good enough for everyone else here?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...wsuit-NOTE-Having-the-lawsuit-not-up-4-debate

it's all in there ^^^


Based on the court record from his previous cases, I doubt Gilbert is qualified to take this one on; the scope is simply too great.

So you think he's not qualified and he can't get plaintiffs?

What's wrong with supporting Gary Johnson if one believes in him? Or you just don't.

I don't want people to lose any positions they have. I would agree with that. But you are saying there is a clear cut cause/effect from supporting Gilbert or Gary Johnson and people losing their positions? Maybe the GOP is just full of assholes? Or is that not clear to you?

I think, personally, that EVERY FREAKING party, the R, the D and every other letter should be taken over by Liberty people.

I think that all of the criminals in the R and the D should be thrown out.

But, please explain what you are talking about, because if you are going to posit that supporting Gary Johnson or Richard Gilbert is causing people to be removed from the R party, fine, I can accept that. But I won't accept that as an across-the-board reason to support neither of them.

If one wants to not support Richard Gilbert, I completely understand.

If one wants to not support Gary Johnson, I completely understand.

Same for the R take-over strategy.

But why not support them all?

Support GJ to a lesser degree.

Can anyone here actually explain what Gilbert has been doing?

Has he been successful at anything?

At the moment, for me, it certainly doesn't seem like it.

But he is trying. If he is doing something damaging, has it been made clear what that is and to whom?

Why didn't the campaign go after the fraud etc?

There are so many questions and I don't know what good came out of what Gilbert has done. Hopefully to the people who are involved within the R strategy it is obvious that they should not get involved with him, if that is the case.

But for people who aren't, people who aren't running for R seats but who want to see progress in the liberty movement, the liberty movement does not exist only in the R party.

I say to people here, support what and whom you think you should support.

If that's Gilbert, fine. If that's GJ, fine. If that's the R strategy, fine. Don't let other people make up your minds for you.

It's a big world out there. The R party is not "The Big Tent."

Be your own tent.

<3

 

[CPUd]

Here's one to get you started:



http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/413807_459034457470645_985420403_o.jpg

 

[ChristopherShelley]

If liberty is water, water does not deny gravity.

People are the ones that further liberty, and people cannot just sit around waiting for the "right" candidates, the right strategies, etc. all of the time.

If you like a candidate, or a strategy or whatever, support it before it's gone. If you change your mind, then change your mind.

I am SO FREAKING TIRED of people trying to control this "movement", i.e. other people.

If you are inspired, act.

If you find that you no longer support what you once supported, change direction. Do something new.

I am DONE with the talking in code bulls--t.

I am DONE with carrots and sticks.

Unless I figure that they are worth it.

But I am speaking to those who have doubt about their own instincts. Follow them. If you don't find what you like, then do something different. Or don't.

I am so TIRED of speaking with usernames, people who spend hours tearing something down instead of building something. Trying to control other people's opinions and actions. Not listening sincerely to other people.

If liberty is water, then what's with all of the gd beavers????