Revenge porn

tod evans

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With the advent of digital imagery neekid pictures of people in general was a foregone conclusion.

The idea that such images impact women differently than men is foolish.

Permitting government and her courts to adjudicate such matters is insane!

Another area that government involvement causes more harm than good.

But by golly the courts permit revenge for revenge porn....:rolleyes:








From Drudge;

Man admits posting 'revenge porn' of his ex-girlfriend

http://billingsgazette.com/news/cri...cle_5825afdb-2e1c-5b87-ad6c-efad7cc57108.html


A 24-year-old Billings man pleaded guilty Thursday to posting nude photos of his ex-girlfriend on Craigslist and pretending to be her seeking sexual encounters.

Mathew Christopher Connery was charged with misdemeanor privacy in communications for listing her phone number in the casual encounters sections of Craigslist. A nude photo she had provided him while the two were in a relationship was also posted.

In his plea before Yellowstone County Justice of the Peace David Carter, Connery at first appeared contrite.

"I realize what I did when I did it," Connery said. "I wasn't in the best state of mind when I did it."

When Carter asked him to admit to the crime, however, he hesitated.

"I wasn't trying to intimidate her," Connery said. "It was a really stupid joke between her and me when we were together."

Asked by the judge if he was "trying to embarrass her or cause her emotional pain," Connery said, "I guess so, yeah."

The woman filed a restraining order against Connery after he posted the photo and showed up unannounced at her home, her family's home and her work. She requested he destroy the photos so they could no longer be posted.

Connery's sentencing will be Feb. 25, allowing the victim time to write an impact statement for the court.

His conviction comes only a week after the Women's Media Center launched a site nationally to help identify and categorize harassment of women online.

*********The remainder of this article is about poor women who don't like digital images of their body posted on line**************

Director for the Women's Media Center Speech Project, Soraya Chemaly, said "revenge porn" or "non-consensual pornography" is a growing problem for women online. The speech project intends to raise awareness and understanding of the developing problem.

"A lot of times, when these crimes are reported, they are routinely minimized by being categorized as a misdemeanor," Chemaly said.

A nude photo of someone posted on the Internet is like stripping someone naked and throwing them into a public place, Chemaly said, although the crimes aren't treated that way.

Connery faces a maximum punishment of six months in jail and a $500 fine, according to Montana Law.

Although, Chenaly said her organization isn't focused on making changes through the legal system, "When you look at rape, at domestic violence and the legal remedies for these crimes, we know the court system is so biased."

Deputy Yellowstone County Attorney Paul Chaon was the lead prosecutor on one of three related stalking cases charged during 2014. The offender, Terry Stoltz was sentenced to five years for felony drug possession and concurrent sentences of five years with two suspended for stalking.

Stoltz had set up a video camera in the victim's shower, which he said he was using to watch some chickens he kept there.

Chaon said Stoltz adopted a mentality toward his victim of, “I’m going to make your life miserable.”

According to the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative's "Effects of Revenge Porn" Survey, 90 percent of revenge porn victims are women, while 60 percent of perpetrators were men. Of those who have suffered from revenge porn, 49 percent were then harassed by people who saw the images, according to the survey.

Victims of revenge porn are sometimes fired from their jobs. Harm is done to their reputation, there are psychological impacts and they face social stigma for their sending the photos in the first place, Chenaly said.

It needs to start with education, Chenaly said. Society as a whole believes that women's bodies are a public resource, Chenaly said.

"I had a young man ask me in a class once what the difference was between posting a photo of his girlfriend and a picture of a toaster," Chenaly said.

"A toaster doesn't have rights," Chenaly said.

What will most often happen in these cases is that two people will be in a relationship and use text messaging to send sexually explicit photos to one another, Chenaly said. These people are typically in their teens up to late twenties. While men and women share photos at about the same rate, men are three-to-five times more likely to share sexually explicit images without permission.

When the relationship ends, men use this as blackmail.

Chenaly has also seen cases where a man will rape a woman and video tape it. Yellowstone County saw this behavior with Toby Griego, a Yellowstone County serial rapist who recorded his attacks of women on his cellphone.

"When we write stories about domestic violence, they are often the most salacious, stranger-based violence stories," Chenaly said. "But this ignores the day-to-day violence women face in their homes and on the Internet."

In a 2010 Casper, Wyo., case, a man named Jebidiah James Stipe posted a photo of his ex-girlfriend on Craigslist saying the woman was seeking someone to help her play out a rape fantasy. Ty Oliver McDowell responded to the ad and assaulted the woman, according to a news story.

“He left the victim naked, tied up on the floor and actually locked the door when he left,” Natrona County District Attorney Michael Blonigen said in the story.

McDowell admitted to three counts of first-degree sexual assault, one count of aggravated kidnapping and one count of aggravated burglary.

Stipe admitted to one count of conspiracy to commit sexual assault and four other felonies related to the rape.

To learn more about the speech project, visit The Speech Project website where a list of the six types of abuse women face online are listed as well as articles and surveys conducted on the subject.
 
Can someone explain what this means?

That stuck out to me as well. Doesn't that mean 40 percent of the perps were women? While only ten percent of the victims are men? Are 30% of the perps women posting pictures of other women?
 
Statistics aside, what about this are you guys not understanding? I agree that it's pretty stupid to have naked pictures of yourself available in the first place so that after a break-up, something like this can happen...but the fact that these pictures are available doesn't make it OK to post them online for the world to see when the woman only intended to give them to her boyfriend. That would be like saying it's OK for someone to take everything in your house just because you forgot to lock your front door this morning. You did a stupid thing, but it doesn't make it OK that they stole all your stuff!
 
That stuck out to me as well. Doesn't that mean 40 percent of the perps were women? While only ten percent of the victims are men? Are 30% of the perps women posting pictures of other women?

derp. It means that many of the men involved are repeat offenders.
 
Statistics aside, what about this are you guys not understanding? I agree that it's pretty stupid to have naked pictures of yourself available in the first place so that after a break-up, something like this can happen...but the fact that these pictures are available doesn't make it OK to post them online for the world to see when the woman only intended to give them to her boyfriend. That would be like saying it's OK for someone to take everything in your house just because you forgot to lock your front door this morning. You did a stupid thing, but it doesn't make it OK that they stole all your stuff!

how do "fakes" factor in?
 
posting nude photos of his ex-girlfriend on Craigslist and pretending to be her seeking sexual encounters.

Mathew Christopher Connery was charged with misdemeanor privacy in communications for listing her phone number in the casual encounters sections of Craigslist. A nude photo she had provided him while the two were in a relationship was also posted.
Wow what a jerk.
 
Wow what a jerk.

Yep, the man is a fucking loser. I wonder if people would still think if it was OK if the loser of an ex boyfriend sold her personal info to identity thieves. No sympathy from me and it makes no difference if the perpetrator was a man or woman.
 
Statistics aside, what about this are you guys not understanding? I agree that it's pretty stupid to have naked pictures of yourself available in the first place so that after a break-up, something like this can happen...but the fact that these pictures are available doesn't make it OK to post them online for the world to see when the woman only intended to give them to her boyfriend. That would be like saying it's OK for someone to take everything in your house just because you forgot to lock your front door this morning. You did a stupid thing, but it doesn't make it OK that they stole all your stuff!

No it's not like that at all.

Digital images are not your stuff.

Once somebody has an image of you it's theirs to do with as they please.

Thinking that just because you might be neekid or in a compromising position should grant you special "rights" over their image of you is ludicrous.

I'm simply amazed that the half of the population with boobs thinks they should be entitled to preferential treatment because of their gender...
 
Statistics aside, what about this are you guys not understanding?

I don't understand the statistics used in the article. That is all.

I agree that it's pretty stupid to have naked pictures of yourself available in the first place so that after a break-up, something like this can happen...but the fact that these pictures are available doesn't make it OK to post them online for the world to see when the woman only intended to give them to her boyfriend. That would be like saying it's OK for someone to take everything in your house just because you forgot to lock your front door this morning. You did a stupid thing, but it doesn't make it OK that they stole all your stuff!

We're in agreement.
 
Statistics aside, what about this are you guys not understanding? I agree that it's pretty stupid to have naked pictures of yourself available in the first place so that after a break-up, something like this can happen...but the fact that these pictures are available doesn't make it OK to post them online for the world to see when the woman only intended to give them to her boyfriend.

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No it's not like that at all.

Digital images are not your stuff.

Once somebody has an image of you it's theirs to do with as they please.

Thinking that just because you might be neekid or in a compromising position should grant you special "rights" over their image of you is ludicrous.

I'm simply amazed that the half of the population with boobs thinks they should be entitled to preferential treatment because of their gender...

Really?
 
No it's not like that at all.

Digital images are not your stuff.

Once somebody has an image of you it's theirs to do with as they please.

Thinking that just because you might be neekid or in a compromising position should grant you special "rights" over their image of you is ludicrous.

I'm simply amazed that the half of the population with boobs thinks they should be entitled to preferential treatment because of their gender...
You can scan any image and turn it into a digital image. That's a weak argument. You're overlooking the fact that those women have had their (ultimate) privacy violated.

How would you feel if the TSA posted a digital picture of your nekkid body the next time you go on a flight?
 

I gave(give) my friend my 2nd car once to use until he got back on his feet. He had the right to possess the car and even though it wasn't stipulate in the contract we never made, he knew very well that conditions were put in the exchange, he couldn't sell parts of the car to get by, he couldn't re-paint the car without my permission, he couldn't transfer it to another friend etc etc.

Maybe it is the failure of society not to write everything out in elaborate, multi page contract documents but what he did would have warranted a serious asskicking my society if the courts weren't there to settle these kinds of matters.
 
You're overlooking the fact that those women have had their (ultimate) privacy violated.

You're missing that these women GAVE AWAY their privacy. If you don't want someone else to POSSESS a naked picture of you... then don't give it to them.

How would you feel if the NSA posted a digital picture of your nekkid body the next time you go on a flight?

I have a contractual relationship with the TSA that involves specific rights to those images when I buy a ticket.
 
Sounds like some people need to grow up. Revenge porn is one of the most childish, immature things, ever.
 
I gave(give) my friend my 2nd car once to use until he got back on his feet. He had the right to possess the car and even though it wasn't stipulate in the contract we never made, he knew very well that conditions were put in the exchange, he couldn't sell parts of the car to get by, he couldn't re-paint the car without my permission, he couldn't transfer it to another friend etc etc.

that is because you retained TITLE
Maybe it is the failure of society not to write everything out in elaborate, multi page contract documents but what he did would have warranted a serious asskicking my society if the courts weren't there to settle these kinds of matters.

Models that allow naked pictures of themselves to be taken by friends, boyfriends, partners, employers etc., who expect to retain some rights to the images, sign a contract.


Pro tip: if you intend to give up POSSESSION of something while still retaining OWNERSHIP....


SIGN A CONTRACT
 
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Sounds like some people need to grow up. Revenge porn is one of the most childish, immature things, ever.

Indeed.

likewise...

Posing for naked pictures and getting upset when other people see them is one of the most childish, immature things, ever.

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Agreed. Whatever people do will follow them around the rest of their lives.

Editing to add: Revenge is the childish, immature thing, no matter what form it takes.
 
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