Response to Ron Paul email..How should I respond?

I am a teacher and went to public school and my kids do too but there is nothing"ridiculous" about being home schooled. Some of the smartest kids are taught at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Severius, Do your home-schooling proud and adhere to the advice from the Mods and the general consensus of the forum and please refrain yourself from expressing your vulgarities. It in no way helps the campaign and actually turns some people off believe it or not. Try to keep all your responses on a respectful plain and this forum will be better for it.
 
I believe that it is not the intention to promote homeschooling rather than simply to defend the right to do it. Homeschooling is the only alternative to sending your children to an unacceptably horrible school for many, many people in this country. We are defending choice and competition in schools.
 
Home schooling is a horrible idea? FUCK YOU!

Calm down.

I was home schooled my entire life


Well that explains your social skills.

I believe that it is not the intention to promote homeschooling rather than simply to defend the right to do it. Homeschooling is the only alternative to sending your children to an unacceptably horrible school for many, many people in this country. We are defending choice and competition in schools.


I think there should be a choice to an extent, but there should be some kind of standards that everyone adheres to.
 
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He pressed "reply all" !!

I just found out that the guy replied to everyone that I sent the email to! lol..

I hadn't noticed until one of my other buddies asked me who the asshole was that responded to my email lol...

So I replied all, and cut and pasted my original reply to his email...lol

What a tard..
 
He pressed "reply all" !!

I just found out that the guy replied to everyone that I sent the email to! lol..

I hadn't noticed until one of my other buddies asked me who the asshole was that responded to my email lol...

So I replied all, and cut and pasted my original reply to his email...lol

What a tard..

HAHA!! What comedy! :D
 
Here's how I would respond. Go into address book, find his e-mail address and remove from my address book. Who has time for friends like that? Seriously?

Exactly.

Don't waste your time speaking with someone like this.

There are much better ways to get the message out, and much better battles to fight.

Arguing with this argumentative person will only validate the opinions he or she holds in his or her own mind.

Don't do it. You send out the message. It's been read. Maybe you'll get an email a month from now asking for more information. Let it settle and work itself in.
 
I think there should be a choice to an extent, but there should be some kind of standards that everyone adheres to.

there should be choice to all extent. if a homeschooling parent wants to dumb down his kid he should be allowed to do so (as long as the kid agrees with this education) - i'm pretty sure that is not the intention of homeschooling parents.
every university can test you if they think you are not properly educated.
 
When getting a response like that, it's usually best to leave well enough alone. It's a courtesy to respond to an initial email, which he (rudely) did. But netiquette doesn't require further communication. In fact, in such a situation it can escalate bad feeling.

I'd not have responded at all.
 
I think there should be a choice to an extent, but there should be some kind of standards that everyone adheres to.

I tend to agree, in principle, but the standards can and would force a homeschool curriculum that some would find objectionable.

Plus, when has the state ever been able to enforce minimum standards in public schools? All schools are different and people need to be able to find an alternative if that is their choice. "No child left behind" made for a winning slogan in 2000. The reality of it is much different.

I think that, numerically, it is far easier to find failures from the public schools than failures from homeschooling. JMO
 
I think there should be a choice to an extent, but there should be some kind of standards that everyone adheres to.

There's the problem. Who sets the standards? It's clearly evidenced that on the Federal, State and local levels the public education system has failed to set or maintain any reasonable standard of achievement.

The problem with that logic is that you assume you (or your elected/appointed government agent) knows what is going to serve every child best throughout their life and you force your assumptions on every child.
 
If you wish to take the time to sway your friend, you must always seek first to understand then seek to be understood. Believe it or not, most people actually prefer federalist solutions. Allow your friend to draw their utopian picture, understand what they're wanting from government and then show them how it's better implemented at the local level. Once you've talked someone off the ledge of having the federal government solving the problem, it's easier to talk them into the market solving many problems.
 
Some people have their heads so full of statist misinformation, they're not receptive to Ron Paul's message. It's not that it's not worth arguing with them, it's just that it would take such a monumental effort to reeducate their preconceptions, that you're better off using your time more productively, talking to people who can be more easily swayed. Elections are a numbers game. The challenge is tempting though.

When I'm playing online games, and people shoot their mouths about Ron Paul with something hateful, I just say, "whatever man, I'm just here to play a game". If they're curious about RP however, I gladly find the time to talk politics and direct them to RonPaul2008.com :)
 
He pressed "reply all" !!

I just found out that the guy replied to everyone that I sent the email to! lol..

I hadn't noticed until one of my other buddies asked me who the asshole was that responded to my email lol...

So I replied all, and cut and pasted my original reply to his email...lol

What a tard..

Haha that makes him look even worse in my opinion =D

And I wanted to give a little in put on homeschooling. When or if I have children they will be home schooled.

I will not dare put them into a school where they are treated like prisoners. Kids are video taped in the bathrooms, forced to give random drug tests, forced to be searched with metal detectors and have their lockers searched on a weekly basis by drug dogs. That is ridiculous and not conducive to a learning environment. Public school is meant to brainwash children and get them into the mindset of being an employee. Also teachers try to tell you that your child needs to put placed on Ritalin if they act out in school or that you must vaccinate when there is no law saying you must, but that branches off into another slew of problems...

I would get a 2nd mortgage on my house and get 3 extra jobs to pay for homeschooling tutors. That's how serious this topic is to me.
 
Well your friend has a point. Ron Paul's stance on education is pretty ridiculous. Home schooling is a horrible idea to support. And leaving it completely up to the states is also not very good. For example, you'll have a bunch of states, like Kansas, teaching superstition in science classes. Do we really want that, when we are already so far behind a lot of other countries on education?

Ron Paul's stance on education is brilliant and based on the constitution.

If the parents of Kansas want to teach voodoo to their children, what business is it of yours? What makes you think you have a right to overrule the wishes of the parents in regards to how their children are raised? Sounds like some of that "it takes a village" bullcrap that Hillary is peddling.
 
Well your friend has a point. Ron Paul's stance on education is pretty ridiculous. Home schooling is a horrible idea to support. And leaving it completely up to the states is also not very good. For example, you'll have a bunch of states, like Kansas, teaching superstition in science classes. Do we really want that, when we are already so far behind a lot of other countries on education?

That is up to Kansas. It is not up to the federal government to engineer society from the top down by selectively withholding the returning of funding that it has pre-emptively stolen from the states. And the Department of Education didn't stop the Kansas school board from promoting superstition anyway...
 
OP, the thing is, your "friend" is so lost in how smart he sounds to himself, he is completely missing the boat. Ask him if he would vote for someone who voted for the Iraq War, PATRIOT Act, domestic spying, Gitmo without a trial for US citizens, and jailing state-legal medical marijuana users. Then demonstrate how his obvious "no" answer thins the Republican field to one person, and possibly the entire Presidential field to three people. Nothing else matters because those issues of executive power and Constitutional law trump EVERYTHING else. Doesn't matter if you're a socialist or not.
 
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