Researching weapons
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afmatt wrote:
Now, bear in mind that everybody will have a different opinion on this, (I'll spare you the "opinions - assholes" metaphor) but for what it's worth here's mine.
If the option and funds you have leave you with the choices you mentioned above, go for a quality rifle over an abundance of ammo.
Very simply put, a broken, inaccurate or poorly functioning weapon is going to make the 10k rounds of ammo you have put back pretty worthless.
Get as much "quality" you can afford, stick with the most common rounds available, .308, .223, 7.62 x 39, or 9mm in a pinch, and purchase ammo as sales, bulk offerings or trades come up rather than plunking down hundreds if not thousands of dollars on ammo.
Oh yes, and also make sure you have some basic spare parts as well.
Well said and makes sense - thanks for the advice
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If weight is your major concern then you might look at something like this. It's the only thing my girlfriend will touch. It's extremely light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLY3T1zGO9o
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bumping an old thread
I actually picked up the .22lr version of the calico rifle the m100. It is fun as hell to shoot and I haven't had any feeding/ejecting problems with fed bulkpack ammo. Shooting from a rest with open sights the gun is pretty good @ 50yds with the same ammo. I really enjoy this .22(well all of my .22s since they are affordable to shoot).
I actually picked up the .22lr version of the calico rifle the m100. It is fun as hell to shoot and I haven't had any feeding/ejecting problems with fed bulkpack ammo. Shooting from a rest with open sights the gun is pretty good @ 50yds with the same ammo. I really enjoy this .22(well all of my .22s since they are affordable to shoot).
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Here is a link to a very reputable dealer with good prices.
I have both the AR and the AK and if ammo prices are your concern, stick with the AK, just my opinion. It seems like the 223 prices are going through the roof while the 7.62 is more affordable and accessable, IMO.
www.HendersonDefense.com.
Here is a link to a very reputable dealer with good prices.
I have both the AR and the AK and if ammo prices are your concern, stick with the AK, just my opinion. It seems like the 223 prices are going through the roof while the 7.62 is more affordable and accessable, IMO.
www.HendersonDefense.com.
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Yup:
http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-FAL-Rifles/departments/8
I own two DS Arms rifles. They are, IMO, the single best combat rifle ever made. I cannot recommend them highly enough.
Hey that stock sucks if You want to put a good scope on it. The stock doesn't allow a good cheek weld as I have found out with my M1A.
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I used to be a total M1A man until I bought a AR15. Now I have seen the light and have realized that the AR15 has so many conversions that I could shoot 4 different rounds. I will still stick with my M1A in the SHTF scenario but the AR is just so much more versatile and accurate out of the box.
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Yup:
http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-FAL-Rifles/departments/8
I own two DS Arms rifles. They are, IMO, the single best combat rifle ever made. I cannot recommend them highly enough.
Umm... Pretty!
Pretty nice for the price!
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Our Products >> AK47 Rifles and Carbines >> Century "Certified" Tactical Carbine
Century "Certified" Tactical Carbine
The rifle comes with the following:
- aluminum picatinny quad rail with covers - US-made pistol grip and buttstock - factory parkerized finish
- factory chrome-lined barrel
- East German canvas sling
- US-made fire control group
- removeable slant brake (not shown)
- bayonet lug "wings" - chrome oil bottle
- factory steel 30-round magazine
- new buttstock cleaning kit
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We have gone through and inspected every single rifle that we got in for straight rear sight bases, gas blocks and front sight bases. The magazines provided has been fitted to ensure proper lock up and removal, the magazine well has been chamfered to remove the milled edges. You won't have to worry about hand-inspecting this rifle prior to purchase because we took away the anxiety of ordering a WASR online. We have "certified" these 7.62x39 carbines to be sold online without concerns for returns or repairs. Also, choose from the various options below to keep the rifle compliant in your region or built it to your specifications
**PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FFL
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UNTIL IT IS RECEIVED**
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Price $499.95
Adjusted Price $499.95
www.hendersondefense.com
Our Products >> AK47 Rifles and Carbines >> Century "Certified" Tactical Carbine
Century "Certified" Tactical Carbine
The rifle comes with the following:
- aluminum picatinny quad rail with covers - US-made pistol grip and buttstock - factory parkerized finish
- factory chrome-lined barrel
- East German canvas sling
- US-made fire control group
- removeable slant brake (not shown)
- bayonet lug "wings" - chrome oil bottle
- factory steel 30-round magazine
- new buttstock cleaning kit
Henderson Defense "Certified" WASR Rifles:
We have gone through and inspected every single rifle that we got in for straight rear sight bases, gas blocks and front sight bases. The magazines provided has been fitted to ensure proper lock up and removal, the magazine well has been chamfered to remove the milled edges. You won't have to worry about hand-inspecting this rifle prior to purchase because we took away the anxiety of ordering a WASR online. We have "certified" these 7.62x39 carbines to be sold online without concerns for returns or repairs. Also, choose from the various options below to keep the rifle compliant in your region or built it to your specifications
**PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FFL
DEALER AND HAVE THEM FAX OR E-MAIL ([email protected]) A
COPY OF THEIR FFL LICENSE. IF THIS IS NOT DONE YOUR ORDER WILL NOT BE PROCESSED
UNTIL IT IS RECEIVED**
**PLEASE NOTE CA CUSTOMERS. WE ALSO NEED DEALERS CFD/CL 5 DIGIT NUMBER WITH COPY OF LICENSE**
Click To Enlarge
Item #: WASR-T
Status: Out-of-Stock
Extra Magazine No Extra Magazine Add Extra 30-Round Magazine (+$14.95)
Muzzle Device Options Standard Slant Brake (+$10.00) AK-74-type Muzzle Brake (+$21.00)
Price $499.95
Adjusted Price $499.95
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I just can't go for those exotic guns...[it's just me]
I am not too crazy about all those casings collecting at my feet either.
"Walking on marbles"
If asked I'd say "Get an M1A for a goto rifle. .308"
If you are in a pinch, you can set yourself up with a good AK or SKS [7.62x39], as long as you have plenty of spare parts available [just in case].
Well, YES, you need spare parts for every rifle you own, but the probability of the import parts vanishing is a concern of mine and more likely to surface than not.
Whatever you get, have QUALITY ammo on hand for practice, dinner gathering...and those pesky zombies.
Practice a lot...then some more. It'll do you no good to have tons of ammo and a 2000 FRN rifle if you cant hit a barn at 50 yards...
practice is like therapy.
Among other tools, I have the M1a, the Chinese SKS and the AR15 and I am considering getting rid of the AR15 because I favor the other two much more. They just suit me better.
I can see the appeal in the AR (that's why I got it) but after I compared the three, I think I can live without the AR.
Don't forget patriots... a good 12ga shotgun is a necessary tool for every home.
There are a lot of flavors out there, select what suits your build and environment best.
Saiga 12 anyone
I am not too crazy about all those casings collecting at my feet either.
"Walking on marbles"
If asked I'd say "Get an M1A for a goto rifle. .308"
If you are in a pinch, you can set yourself up with a good AK or SKS [7.62x39], as long as you have plenty of spare parts available [just in case].
Well, YES, you need spare parts for every rifle you own, but the probability of the import parts vanishing is a concern of mine and more likely to surface than not.
Whatever you get, have QUALITY ammo on hand for practice, dinner gathering...and those pesky zombies.
Practice a lot...then some more. It'll do you no good to have tons of ammo and a 2000 FRN rifle if you cant hit a barn at 50 yards...
practice is like therapy.
Among other tools, I have the M1a, the Chinese SKS and the AR15 and I am considering getting rid of the AR15 because I favor the other two much more. They just suit me better.
I can see the appeal in the AR (that's why I got it) but after I compared the three, I think I can live without the AR.
Don't forget patriots... a good 12ga shotgun is a necessary tool for every home.
There are a lot of flavors out there, select what suits your build and environment best.
Saiga 12 anyone
Hey guys, check out how a car can be shot to pieces with a Saiga in 2 minutes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te91g9Yr5g8 That´s a shotgun of future :o)
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Ar-10
Had to add my favorite, the AR-10
One word - versatility. Not to mention countless accessories. I do like the M1 but it lacks a bit in accessories (so i was told). The AR-10 fires a .308 and can be used as a long and short range weapon effectively. Oh, you can use it to hunt animals also
for side arm I have my trusty Witness 45 magnum, double action, extended clip. (no toy glocks or 9s here)
final back-up, 6 inch dagger.
Had to add my favorite, the AR-10
One word - versatility. Not to mention countless accessories. I do like the M1 but it lacks a bit in accessories (so i was told). The AR-10 fires a .308 and can be used as a long and short range weapon effectively. Oh, you can use it to hunt animals also
for side arm I have my trusty Witness 45 magnum, double action, extended clip. (no toy glocks or 9s here)
final back-up, 6 inch dagger.
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Supply and Demand principle.
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and gov't intervention into the free market, by disallowing imported "assault weapons" along with the fact that the Fed gov't more or less has also outlawed fully automatic firearms. That means we can't import the same cheap AK's that 3rd world hell holes can. All new AK's must be made semi auto only and must contain enough parts to qualify as a domestic firearm, increasing labor and parts cost.
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