Requesting information on ak47

[pcosmar]

You would have to check your local and state laws.
In most states there is no registration on long guns. All states are different, check your local laws.

 

[GoDrNo]

just google Virginia Gun Shows, you will be able to find the gun show circuit of your state.

Here is some info I found real quick:

http://www.guns-knives.com/Calendar.html

 

[youngbuck]

Actually the AK is more accurate then the AR out of the box.As I wrote in another thread.

Was that a mistake? The AR is considerably more accurate out of the box than an AK.

 

[ConstitutionReinstitution]

AKs are about my favorite to shoot.

Two companies that usually have different versions of the AK always in stock, and are VERY reputable, VERY honest, VERY reasonable, and have VERY good customer service and back up everything they sell, are:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/New_Long_Guns.html
and
http://www.classicarms.us/

You will need to go through an FFL for the transfer.

Ask around, workplace, neighbors, friends, etc., for an FFL. They will likely be much cheaper than a gunshop for making the transfer.

Be advised that there is a very wide range in the quality of AKs depending on who manufactured them. The VEPR is the best quality IMO of any recent offerings, but are no longer available.

Please, stay legal. The BATFE has absolutely no sense of humor.

 

[krott5333]

check out this forum: http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=77

If you can afford about $500, I'd recommend a Yugo underfolder. If you want to go cheaper, go with a used SAR-1 if you can find one. Otherwise, the WASR-10 isn't bad either.

 

[Defining Obscene]

I found a gun show nearby and at the end of this week!

People who have gunshow experience, what kind of prices can I expect for a Rommy AK-47 WASR?

 

[krott5333]

I found a gun show nearby and at the end of this week!

People who have gunshow experience, what kind of prices can I expect for a Rommy AK-47 WASR?

eh.. maybe I've had bad luck with gun shows, but i seldom find a good deal at a gun show.

I'd call around to your local shops, and see what they have. If they dont have anything, ask them how much an FFL transfer costs. Don't pay over $30 for one.

Once you find a good deal on an FFL transfer, you can order from sites like www.jgsales.com , www.southernohiogun.com , www.aimsurplus.com , etc.


And you shouldnt be paying more than about $380 for a WASR.

Aim has em for $350, but they have the Yugos for $419.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/New_Long_Guns.html

 

[Defining Obscene]

eh.. maybe I've had bad luck with gun shows, but i seldom find a good deal at a gun show.

I'd call around to your local shops, and see what they have. If they dont have anything, ask them how much an FFL transfer costs. Don't pay over $30 for one.

Once you find a good deal on an FFL transfer, you can order from sites like www.jgsales.com , www.southernohiogun.com , www.aimsurplus.com , etc.


And you shouldnt be paying more than about $380 for a WASR.

Aim has em for $350, but they have the Yugos for $419.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/New_Long_Guns.html

Hmm, no good deals even with FFL fee? Now I'm rethinking.

Any other opinions?

 

[xj0hnx]

Was that a mistake? The AR is considerably more accurate out of the box than an AK.

This is not nescessarily true. VEPRs, and Arsenals are both out of the box as accurate as an off the shelf AR, and out to 100m, even 200m a good AK is as accurate as the person firing it. The real problem with AKs, besides inferior sights, is that most in America are parts guns rebuilt on US made receivers, out of old comblock guns, and a lot of the time the barrels are less than stellar, but then again it's an assault rifle, not a competition rifle. If it can hit minute of chest at 100m, it does what it is supposed, if I want to shoot sub MOA groups I'll use my .308

 

[exomniac]

check out this forum: http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=77

If you can afford about $500, I'd recommend a Yugo underfolder.

What he said. Century Arms builds these with American made recievers and Yugo (the best) parts. Solid as a rock, and an underfolding stock. Go ask local dealers to order you one. If you want a runnin' gun that you can strip down and reassemble in your sleep there isnt much choice at all.

 

[mrwomp]

They're pretty readily available here in Minnesota..

You might find that you'll have better luck at a gun show than a gun shop though.

I'm personally partial to the AR-15, as it's essentially the same rifle I had in the Marine Corps, but I'm giving the AK more thought having spoken with a friend of mine based primarily on the cost. An AK can be bought for roughly half of the price of an AR, and ammo can be had for dirt cheap.

i got my wasr 10 romanian ak for roughly a quarter of the price of a AR-15 tho that was the gun i really wanted my funds did not allow it but i don't regret the purchase it is a super reliable gun

btw i am in michigan and they are readily available at any gun shop

 

[Defining Obscene]

Checked out a gun show today, saw a few AKs but they were all overpriced. Came close to buying a Saiga, but I held out. I'm just going to buy online I guess.

 

[RedLightning]

I'd just like to say, I would go for a yugo AK over a Romanian. Which is what I did. The rifle if taken care of will outlast you, you might as well get a nice one.

 

[Conservative Christian]

I thought it was federal law that if a firearm is to be sold across state lines it had to be through a FFL?

That applies to handguns only at the federal level. There are no federal restrictions on buying shotguns and rifles in other states. However, some states have laws prohibiting this.

 

[Conservative Christian]

Really? Does this include fully automatics? I hope so, I must admit the temptation is great.

For personal/home defense, all you really need is a quality military style semi-auto.

 

[pcosmar]

That applies to handguns only at the federal level. There are no federal restrictions on buying shotguns and rifles in other states. However, some states have laws prohibiting this.

Incorrect information.
Transfers of firearms between states must go through a FFL.
The only exception is when a gun is willed to someone, and antique arms.
http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/opd/AppendixC.htm

A. Requiring Federal Licenses for Transferring Firearms Under the GCA

One of the GCA's key provisions creates a licensing scheme that regulates the interstate movement of firearms. Persons engaged in the business of manufacturing, importing, or dealing in firearms-referred to as "federal firearms licensees" (FFLs)-must obtain a license from the Secretary of the Treasury. The license entitles the holder to ship, transport, and receive firearms in interstate or foreign commerce. The FFL must maintain records of all acquisitions and dispositions of firearms and comply with applicable state and local laws in transferring firearms. The recordkeeping requirements help allow some crime guns to be traced. Combined with other obligations and restrictions imposed on firearms dealers, manufacturers, and importers, these requirements help provide a basis for investigating illegal firearms trafficking.(2)

C. Controlling the Interstate Flow of Firearms Under the GCA

The GCA helps individual states enforce their own laws regulating firearms possession and transfers by generally prohibiting the transport and shipment of firearms across state lines, except among FFLs. Before the GCA, differences among state controls over firearms commerce impaired the ability of states to enforce their own laws. The GCA's interstate prohibitions were intended to minimize the impact of different state laws, which had led to illicit commerce in guns between states with little firearms regulation and jurisdictions with strict controls.

 

[Conservative Christian]

nothing wrong with combloc weapons. nothin'. Kalashnikov was a genius and created a fantastic weapon that shoots in ANY condition.

The main objection to combloc weapons isn't one of construction quality.

The major problem is that you're buying weapons manufactured in state-owned facilities, thus providing liberty-hating central governments with substantial funds to maintain control over their citizens.

Just something to think about.

 

[RedLightning]

The main objection to combloc weapons isn't one of construction quality.

The major problem is that you're buying weapons manufactured in state-owned facilities, thus providing liberty-hating central governments with substantial funds to maintain control over their citizens.

Just something to think about.

Thats really only partly true nowadays. Since the import ban on "non sporting" firearms you can only import sporting versions of "assault weapons" or parts kits. Like on current Yugolslavian AKM's they import parts like the stock, then an American company builds the reciever and barrel along with a few other things which make it legally an American made firearm.

 

[Conservative Christian]

Incorrect information.
Transfers of firearms between states must go through a FFL.
The only exception is when a gun is willed to someone, and antique arms.

You're still not reading very well, and once again you make an apples and oranges comparison.

I was referring to an individual entering another state to buy a weapon at a gun shop, NOT dealer TRANSFERS across state lines.

It's perfectly legal in many states for somebody from another state to walk in a gun shop and purchase a longarm, and walk out with it. They just can't order one through the mail or off the internet, and have it shipped to them from another state.

So in regard to the particular situation I'm talking about, YOUR information is incorrect.

 

[Conservative Christian]

Thats really only partly true nowadays. Since the import ban on "non sporting" firearms you can only import sporting versions of "assault weapons" or parts kits. Like on current Yugolslavian AKM's they import parts like the stock, then an American company builds the reciever and barrel along with a few other things which make it legally an American made firearm.

Much more than stocks are being produced and sold by liberty-hating socialist governments who oppress their citizens.

Millions of "sporting" firearms are being imported from these countries, as well as many of the key metal parts for non-sporting weapons.

Oppressive regimes are making many millions of dollars a year off Americans looking for a "good" deal. Money which will be used to finance, build and maintain their war machines, terrorist operations and oppressive governments.