Report: Obama signs EO pretending he has right to ban all imports of firearms & supplies

[sailingaway]

Everyone on the forum that owns an AK or SKS raise your hand.

Guess where 99.9% of AK chow is manufactured? hint: It aint the US of A...

-t

Well, that creates quite a business opportunity for Montana and Idaho based industry, I should think....

 

[Zippyjuan]

I can't find any such executive order. Any links to it?

https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-orders/barack-obama/2013

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

 

[Lucille]

This has to be fake.

What has to be fake? The Federal Register? http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-22/pdf/2013-09392.pdf

Dictator Alert: Biden Pledges More Executive Action On Guns “Later This Week”
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...xecutive-Action-On-Guns-%93Later-This-Week%94

 

[nobody's_hero]

I'm afraid he's already done this. He banned the importation of some couple hundred thousand M1 Garands/M1 Carbines from Korea a few years back. I'm sure he thinks that having the U.N.'s approval is just icing on the cake.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...everses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles/

So no, it's not fake. It's already been done.

 

[Zippyjuan]

What has to be fake? The Federal Register? http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-22/pdf/2013-09392.pdf

Dictator Alert: Biden Pledges More Executive Action On Guns “Later This Week”
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...xecutive-Action-On-Guns-%93Later-This-Week%94

Two things. One- that is not an executive order signed by Obama. Second, that is covering military hardware- like tanks and aircraft and large weapons. From the link you provided:

The following defense articles and
defense services, designated pursuant to
section 38(a) of the Arms Export Control
Act, 22 U.S.C. 2778(a), and E.O. 13637
are subject to controls under this part.
For purposes of this part, the list shall
be known as the U.S. Munitions Import
List (USMIL):
THE U.S. MUNITIONS IMPORT LIST
(USMIL)
* * * * *
CATEGORY V [Reserved]
CATEGORY VII—TANKS AND
MILITARY VEHICLES
* * * * *
(d) [Reserved]
(e) [Reserved]
* * * * *
CATEGORY VIII—AIRCRAFT AND
ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT

Any defense article or defense service
not specifically enumerated in the other
categories of the USMIL that has
substantial military applicability and
that has been specifically designed or
modified for military purposes. The
decision as to whether any article may
be included in this category shall be
made by the Attorney General with the
concurrence of the Secretary of State
and the Secretary of Defense.

 

[Lucille]

So it's all good, Zippy?

“The Importation of Defense Articles and Defense Services — U.S. Munitions Import List references executive orders, amends ATF regulations and clarifies Attorney General authority “to designate defense articles and defense services as part of the statutory USML for purposes of permanent import controls,” among other clauses specified in heavy legalese requiring commensurate analysis to identify just what the administration’s intentions are. Among the speculations of what this could enable are concerns that importing and International Traffic in Arms Regulations [ITAR] may go forward to reflect key elements within the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.”

 

[WM_in_MO]

So fake or no?

 

[Noob]

congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/14/g...ecutive-action-for-gun-control/#ixzz2RQ8hmI2y

 

[Lucille]

So fake or no?

No, it's not fake.

 

[WM_in_MO]

No, it's not fake.

I didnt see a signature on your link.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Congress can overturn this. We've already had an example of them doing just that with an EO. The ONLY reason they did it is because people raised holy hell.

So, will we do that? Will we put in the effort to fax, write, email and call them every single day? Time will tell.

 

[Anti Federalist]

At what point do we the people get together and call these unconstitutional authorities out? Do we write editorials, protest, what?

You assume that which is not evident as fact:

That people want or care about keeping their freedom.

 

[osan]

so, no ammunition from the aussies? i guess they really are planning a war on us, and these are sanctions against us, so we can't arm ourselves.

That nutshells it well enough.

Time is here.

 

[osan]

I find myself the broken record yet again.

The threshold is either upon us or may even have passed where there is no longer a solution to be found within the so-called "system". It now appears that the only choices left are to fight or capitulate.

This is a very bold move on Obama's part. One of the most ostentatious yet; perhaps even the most. All that remains at this point is for him to make an announcement issuing his fiat and all imports are effectively gone. Domestic production will be easy to control. Were a group of patriots to take control of, say, an ammunition plant all Obama would need to do is cut off raw materials and they are screwed. If worse came to worst, a few JDAMs and that book is closed. They have billions of rounds, more than enough to kill every man woman and child within these United States.

We are being set up like bowling pins, folks, and most of America is still at the mall. By the time they come around to realizing they are being ass-raped it will be far too late for them to do anything other than crack a smile and hope it doesn't get any worse, which likely it will. Our military will be abroad and useless to us. DHS & Co. will be putting the big hurt on the rest of us. We might still prevail, but it would be ugly and we have to accept the possibility of foreign troops landing on US soil to aid in maintaining "peace".

Arm up. Stock up. Build suppressors NOW if you intend on fighting because you will need every advantage possible.

But do not underestimate the technology in Their hands. If you paid attention you will have noticed the low-light imaging used in the apprehension of Tsarnaev. They were getting real-time images of his THROUGH the tarp and, if I am not mistaken, the boat hull. This tells me they are operating on frequencies that are not defeated by thermal insulators. That means they can target you through the walls of your house, perhaps even behind masonry. If that is the case, they will be conducting night ops where they will hold a tremendous advantage over us. This is very bad news for us and if we are to survive, much less prevail, we are going to need a whole shit tome more people on board than what I suspect we have. If we don't get them, we will be picked off one by one.

IF push comes to shove and physical violence erupts and by some impossibly wild chance we prevail, we had God damned BETTER get it in our heads and up our asses that we are to possess ALL military technologies in far superior abundance than the military AND non-military governmental agencies must be absolutely banned for all time from the possession of such technologies. We have been lead down the stocks and our heads are almost literally on the block as I type. If you do not want to become an abject slave you had best get your head out of your asshole, get yourself and your shit squared away, and do everything you can to get all the lazy dumbasses you know to wake the hell up. If this EO is what it seems, it is very bad news.

 

[osan]

Congress can overturn this. We've already had an example of them doing just that with an EO. The ONLY reason they did it is because people raised holy hell.

So, will we do that? Will we put in the effort to fax, write, email and call them every single day? Time will tell.

Yes, and I can probably have a 20 foot long dick (after reduction surgery, of course).

The question is whether they will. I am not terribly optimistic on that point. May I be proven wrong on this one.

 

[WM_in_MO]

Someone get Ben Swann on this.
I put it on his FB page.

 

[osan]

Headlines: Congressman Threatens Impeachment If Obama Uses Executive Action For Gun Control, Dies In Freak Accident

Fixed that for you.

 

[phill4paul]

You assume that which is not evident as fact:

That people want or care about keeping their freedom.

On the most "libertarian" "conservative" "Constitutional" site? Hell, half those here would have government do their bidding. Even here. SMFH.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Still no link to an actual executive order?

I have to vote "fake" until somebody can share it.

 

[jmdrake]

Congress can overturn this. We've already had an example of them doing just that with an EO. The ONLY reason they did it is because people raised holy hell.

So, will we do that? Will we put in the effort to fax, write, email and call them every single day? Time will tell.

What executive order of Obama's did they overturn? Hey, I'm all for raising holy hell, and a little unholy hell.