Reince Priebus discusses the nomination of Ron Paul. Also says he reads DailyPaul..lol

Good to know: So Reince...exactly what kind of drugs were you on at the RNC? Edit* What kind of drugs are you on in this video? Did you know you blew a bubble with your bubble gum on camera?


*taking a chance he reads here too
 
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Serious estimate, y'all.... How many votes did Mitt Romney lose, because of RNC/Romney ham-handedness?

Ron has said he got two million votes in the primaries. Ron Paul people are pretty "plugged in" but I'll assume just 1/4 of these watch the videos and are disturbed by the reports out of the convention. That's 500,000 people.

Out of 500,000 maybe half of them never would have voted for Romney under any circumstances, but let's say the other half of those were at least open minded that if Paul's delegates were treated properly, and Paul got a 15 minute speech at the convention, that half again might have grumblingly gone along and voted for Romeny. That's 250,000 votes lost.

But then... there are also generic "Tea Party" people, as well as old line conservatives such as Morton Blackwell, hard right John Birch types, social conservatives, and others who never liked Romney very much. If even 200,000 of those learn about the 2012 convention and rules change, and 20% of them don't vote for Romney, that's another 40,000 lost.

I'll throw in another 10,000 for Independents and Democrats that like Ron Paul.

I can easily see 300,000 lost votes. Haven't we heard before that 50,000 votes spread across the county in the right places, could have tipped George W Bush's elections?

I have to wonder if the die is cast, and Romney sowed the seeds of his demise at the RNC.
 
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Well, let's make sure the people living in the tossup states find out about the shenanigans.

VA NC MI FL NH OH and others.
 
Well it's only logical that the more people see those videos, the more it hurts Romney. There is already a media narrative developing that Mitt did not get much of a convention "bounce" in the polls. The speculation tends to be that "There are few undecideds anymore" or "There wasn't much news to report from Tampa" etc.

But I think the subsequent set of polls that come out over next week will be telling. Most people were not glued to the Forums and TwitterSphere like hard core RPF posters were, during the last few days in August as the convention unfolded.

Then it takes a few days for videos to be encoded and uploaded, dissimenated throug the web and e-mail. (I'm still getting e-mail clips of Eastwoods speech sent to me, even now).

The Rules Cramdown was absorbed into people's thinking this past week. Next week I think it'll be factored into poll responses.

If Romney is still chasing Obama next week, he's behind the 8 ball. He'll need some kind of "October surprise" to shift the campaign momentum.
 
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Part of the reason Republican leaders thought there was some scheme to elect people as delegates for other candidates who would then go rogue and vote for Ron Paul at the RNC is because they read so many posts from people saying that at DP and here. We ended up with fewer Ron Paul supporters at the convention because of that.
 
Serious estimate, y'all.... How many votes did Mitt Romney lose, because of RNC/Romney ham-handedness?

Ron has said he got two million votes in the primaries. Ron Paul people are pretty "plugged in" but I'll assume just 1/4 of these watch the videos and are disturbed by the reports out of the convention. That's 500,000 people.

Out of 500,000 maybe half of them never would have voted for Romney under any circumstances, but let's say the other half of those were at least open minded that if Paul's delegates were treated properly, and Paul got a 15 minute speech at the convention, that half again might have grumblingly gone along and voted for Romeny. That's 250,000 votes lost.

But then... there are also generic "Tea Party" people, as well as old line conservatives such as Morton Blackwell, hard right John Birch types, social conservatives, and others who never liked Romney very much. If even 200,000 of those learn about the 2012 convention and rules change, and 20% of them don't vote for Romney, that's another 40,000 lost.

I'll throw in another 10,000 for Independents and Democrats that like Ron Paul.

I can easily see 300,000 lost votes. Haven't we heard before that 50,000 votes spread across the county in the right places, could have tipped George W Bush's elections?

I have to wonder if the die is cast, and Romney sowed the seeds of his demise at the RNC.

Considering Republican talking heads like Rush were complaining about what went down at the convention (the 2016 nominee handpicking their delegates), it's safe to say a decent portion of voters will associate the tactics with Romney and sit out as a result. The question is how many?
 
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It seemed Rush quit that narrative pretty quickly. Hmm. Wonder why?
 
AND, Rush never said that the same strong-armed tactics happened with the DNC's TelePrompTer. It was all "They're booing GOD."
 
Part of the reason Republican leaders thought there was some scheme to elect people as delegates for other candidates who would then go rogue and vote for Ron Paul at the RNC is because they read so many posts from people saying that at DP and here. We ended up with fewer Ron Paul supporters at the convention because of that.

You could be right, but I think that speaks to the disconnect culturally between the Romney camp and younger RP leaning people.

Those of us in the movement know the importance of working within the rules and demonstrating that we're the aggreived party when foul play happens. I never took the chatter of ignoring the binding seriously, it was just Internet bravado. There is a big difference in how people behave when speaking face to face with party officials, versus what various donors and grassroots people speculate about online.

RP people are often accusted of being conspiracy theorists, yet I think the convention demonstrated quite a bit of paranoia on the part of Romney's campaign.

In short, they played their hand badly.
 
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If you look a drudge now it looks like Obama is now taking a decisive lead in the polls.
 
I honestly think Obama's best weapon is George W. Bush.

It may seem overused in neocon circles, but it's basically true that Obama started out with one helluva Bush-created mess.
 
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I honestly think Obama's best weapon is George W. Bush.

It may seem overused in neocon circles, but it's basically true that Obama started out with one helluva Bush-created mess.
I'd grant that point too. Isn't it telling that W was never seen or mentioned at the convention? Or that his brother, who was a two-time governor *in Florida* also was invisible?

All of the speeches were vetted by camp Romney. If the Bushes were welcome, they'd have been there.

It was not like prior GOP conventions I have viewed, where past presidents like Gerald Ford were given prime speaking spots.
 
Part of the reason Republican leaders thought there was some scheme to elect people as delegates for other candidates who would then go rogue and vote for Ron Paul at the RNC is because they read so many posts from people saying that at DP and here. We ended up with fewer Ron Paul supporters at the convention because of that.

This is a big reason. And it was exacerbated by a small group of "Romney supporters" lobbying RNC for a couple months before the convention, saying that RP has delegates who are intent on scorched earth policies. It's also a big reason why MassGOP kicked out some of their delegates.
 
Preibus reads the daily paul ? Then prolly reads over here too .. I bet these people are members, that would explain some of the divisions among us.

Psssst !!
 
There have been other bios compiled on Romney that sustain the narrative of him being a controlling jerk.

All any of the state GOP leaders had to do was have some straight talk with the RP delegates. Will you keep you word? What are your real expectations? (That Paul's votes be counted, that he gets a speech, and some platform planks.)

Despite what some wild-eyes Paulistas were saying on Internet forums, I see the RNC train wreck as Romney's fault. They could not establish any personal trust with people who were not part of "them". This is a bad personality trait, and it calls into question just what kind of administration he'd really run, if elected.

Governing effectively involves coalition-building. Team Romney failed at it.
 
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Good to know: So Reince...exactly what kind of drugs were you on at the RNC? Edit* What kind of drugs are you on in this video? Did you know you blew a bubble with your bubble gum on camera?


*taking a chance he reads here too
LOL
 
Serious estimate, y'all.... How many votes did Mitt Romney lose, because of RNC/Romney ham-handedness?

Ron has said he got two million votes in the primaries. Ron Paul people are pretty "plugged in" but I'll assume just 1/4 of these watch the videos and are disturbed by the reports out of the convention. That's 500,000 people.

Out of 500,000 maybe half of them never would have voted for Romney under any circumstances, but let's say the other half of those were at least open minded that if Paul's delegates were treated properly, and Paul got a 15 minute speech at the convention, that half again might have grumblingly gone along and voted for Romeny. That's 250,000 votes lost.

But then... there are also generic "Tea Party" people, as well as old line conservatives such as Morton Blackwell, hard right John Birch types, social conservatives, and others who never liked Romney very much. If even 200,000 of those learn about the 2012 convention and rules change, and 20% of them don't vote for Romney, that's another 40,000 lost.

I'll throw in another 10,000 for Independents and Democrats that like Ron Paul.

I can easily see 300,000 lost votes. Haven't we heard before that 50,000 votes spread across the county in the right places, could have tipped George W Bush's elections?

I have to wonder if the die is cast, and Romney sowed the seeds of his demise at the RNC.

Don't forget that some will even vote for Obama just to ensure Romney loses, due to the campaign and convention shenanigans. That's a double whammy against Willard since he'll have to convert another vote to his side just to offset.
 
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