RECLAIM AUSTRALIA; Marchers across Australia against Islam

[Ender]

There are 1.67 BILLION muslims in the world. How many of them are terrorists? Should we ban every religion where somebody associated with that religion commits a crime? What about political ideology? There would be nobody left.

Plus we need a bigger government security apparatus to track everything everybody does to be sure nobody is being a "radical" and evict them.

THIS.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

THIS.

I've said it before but let me repeat, what if I said that countries shouldn't accept neo-nazis, who look up to Hitler, & intend to take over countries by very very high rates of reproduction so that they can reach their "goal" of Aryan race ruling over the rest?

Again, Muhammed was a warlord, he raped, enslaved & killed non-muslims MERELY FOR BEING A NON-MUSLIM, a misogynist, a pedophile & the list of achievements goes on, & muslims look up to this guy, they have very very high rates of reproduction to easily take over countries in a few generations & once they do, non-muslims will be killed or raped or enslaved, forcibly converted or treated like second-class citizens so how are they different than neo-nazis?

The idea that there's a difference between "moderate" & "radical" muslims is laughable because both kinds look up to the same guy - Muhammed; just as it'd be pointless to talk about "moderate" & "radical" neo-nazis because both kinds look up to the same fricking guy - Hitler!

 

[Zippyjuan]

Followers of Jesus also have committed heinous acts. Ban Christians. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/01/ame...tian-fundamentalist-and-far-right-extremists/

From Fox News to the Weekly Standard, neoconservatives have tried to paint terrorism as a largely or exclusively Islamic phenomenon. Their message of Islamophobia has been repeated many times since the George W. Bush era: Islam is inherently violent, Christianity is inherently peaceful, and there is no such thing as a Christian terrorist or a white male terrorist. But the facts don’t bear that out. Far-right white male radicals and extreme Christianists are every bit as capable of acts of terrorism as radical Islamists, and to pretend that such terrorists don’t exist does the public a huge disservice. Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev and the late Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev (the Chechen brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing of April 15, 2013) are both considered white and appear to have been motivated in part by radical Islam. And many terrorist attacks in the United States have been carried out by people who were neither Muslims nor dark-skinned.

When white males of the far right carry out violent attacks, neocons and Republicans typically describe them as lone-wolf extremists rather than people who are part of terrorist networks or well-organized terrorist movements. Yet many of the terrorist attacks in the United States have been carried out by people who had long histories of networking with other terrorists. In fact, most of the terrorist activity occurring in the United States in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from a combination of radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.

Oklahoma City for example. Or read through this list and note how many were (or weren't) committed by radical Islamists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

Sure, arrest extremists who commit crimes. Along with non- extremists who commit crimes. But like you would like to be treated, allow freedom and liberty to the rest to practiced the religion of their own choosing. Banning or restricting somebody or somebody's religion based on the actions of a few is not where you want to go. Freedom is only free when it applies to all- not just a selected few "approved" groups or people.

 

[Ender]

I've said it before but let me repeat, what if I said that countries shouldn't accept neo-nazis, who look up to Hitler, & intend to take over countries by very very high rates of reproduction so that they can reach their "goal" of Aryan race ruling over the rest?

Again, Muhammed was a warlord, he raped, enslaved & killed non-muslims MERELY FOR BEING A NON-MUSLIM, a misogynist, a pedophile & the list of achievements goes on, & muslims look up to this guy, they have very very high rates of reproduction to easily take over countries in a few generations & once they do, non-muslims will be killed or raped or enslaved, forcibly converted or treated like second-class citizens so how are they different than neo-nazis?

The idea that there's a difference between "moderate" & "radical" muslims is laughable because both kinds look up to the same guy - Muhammed; just as it'd be pointless to talk about "moderate" & "radical" neo-nazis because both kinds look up to the same fricking guy - Hitler!

You know nothing about Muslims except what MSM has taught you.

How about the Inquisitions?

How about our "Christian" nation that kills more people than any other country on the planet?

And although Hitler was a bad guy, our so-called allies were much worse.

Get. A. Clue.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

You know nothing about Muslims except what MSM has taught you.

How about the Inquisitions?

How about our "Christian" nation that kills more people than any other country on the planet?

And although Hitler was a bad guy, our so-called allies were much worse.

Get. A. Clue.

Unlike most muslims (since most of them can't even read) & you, I've read the Islamic texts but yeah, what do I know.

What about the inquisitions? I don't have any problem with it if you said that we should keep out people that support inquisitions......

I'm an agnostic-atheist & I don't think America is a "Christian nation", separation of Church & State is quite clear but nonetheless, I don't think anybody following Jesus (or Buddha for that matter) who is more or less in line with non-coercion is much of a problem; on other hand, Muhammed.......

I didn't even say anything about Allies being great or anything; I've merely drawn a parallel between neo-nazis who look up to Hitler, & muslims who look up to Muhammed.
Anybody that is ok with restricting neo-nazi immigration, should by the same token be ok with restricting muslim immigration.

So tell me, would you be ok with it if I proposed keeping out neo-nazi immigrants looking to take over countries through high rates of reproduction?

Yes, I got the clue - either you're totally brainwashed by political correctness or simply impervious to logic & reason.

Nonetheless, I don't think it's possible to have a fruitful discussion with you on this topic so I'll stop. Good day.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Unlike most muslims (since most of them can't even read) & you, I've read the Islamic texts but yeah, what do I know.

What about the inquisitions? I don't have any problem with it if you said that we should keep out people that support inquisitions......

I'm an agnostic-atheist & I don't think America is a "Christian nation", separation of Church & State is quite clear but nonetheless, I don't think anybody following Jesus (or Buddha for that matter) who is more or less in line with non-coercion is much of a problem; on other hand, Muhammed.......

I didn't even say anything about Allies being great or anything; I've merely drawn a parallel between neo-nazis who look up to Hitler, & muslims who look up to Muhammed.
Anybody that is ok with restricting neo-nazi immigration, should by the same token be ok with restricting muslim immigration.

So tell me, would you be ok with it if I proposed keeping out neo-nazi immigrants looking to take over countries through high rates of reproduction?

Yes, I got the clue - either you're totally brainwashed by political correctness or simply impervious to logic & reason.

Nonetheless, I don't think it's possible to have a fruitful discussion with you on this topic so I'll stop. Good day.

You would restrict or ban people based on what their grandkids might or might not do in the future (take over the country like Christians did)?

(Just as a note- Islam also considers Jesus as a great prophet on a par with Mohammed and uses some books of the Bible as part of their texts).

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?

Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Quran confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Quran is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Quran describes the birth of Jesus as follows:

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, the same command that had brought Adam into being with neither a father nor a mother. God has said:

The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:

“I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)

Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:

...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)

Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.1

 

[Traditionalist]

There are 1.67 BILLION muslims in the world. How many of them are terrorists? Should we ban every religion where somebody associated with that religion commits a crime? What about political ideology? There would be nobody left.

Plus we need a bigger government security apparatus to track everything everybody does to be sure nobody is being a "radical" and evict them.

Zippyjuan is right, we should never rely upon empirical evidence, facts, or statistics. Rather, we should base society off of a vague set of principles, moral ambiguities, and an unrealistic emotional outlook on the world.

 

[OReich]

I have nothing against individual Muslims, the reality is that the majority of Middle Easterners an North Africans support Sharia law, which is Islam as a political ideology. That is bad. Every Muslim who does not support Sharia is fine by me. Both the Jewish Torah and Quran say ppl should be killed for leaving the religion (Judaism or Islam respectively). Anyone who kills ppl because those books tell them to is evil. There are dozens of Muslim countries that execute ppl for leaving Islam, or criticizing it, and not a single Jewish one. We don't have to pretend away Islamic extremism to prove that we're tolerant. Islamic extremism is a bigoted ideology, just like white supremacy or feudalism. I never said we should do a damn thing to innocent, random Muslim, in fact my entire argument is to NOT commit acts of violence against innocent, nonviolent ppl. My entire pt is to condemn violence. That's all I've said. And some ppl here can't handle that, so they insinuate that its racist to identify a bigoted ideology violently practiced and supported by millions.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

You would restrict or ban people based on what their grandkids might or might not do in the future (take over the country like Christians did)?

(Just as a note- Islam also considers Jesus as a great prophet on a par with Mohammed and uses some books of the Bible as part of their texts).

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

Let me simplify things for you:

Nazis <-> Hitler <-> killed innocents <-> bad

Muslims <-> Muhammed <-> killed innocents <-> bad

If you can't understand that then I don't think you ever will. Good luck.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

yes, violence and bigotry of all kinds is horrible.

Do you believe arabs and jews are qual as races and neither race is more chosen than the other?

Who in your view is responsible to Iraq Freedom bloodbath that is resulting in cleansing of Christians out of mideast/AlQaeda-Israel-Saudi marriage and later fast Islamization (at least symbolic) of all major Iraqi Freedom invaders - US, UK, Australia ?

What is your view on Zionists' open-ended oppression/occupation of palestinian muslims/christians going on for over 4 decades and anti-semitism towards Palestinians?

Do you support or oppose this call?

"U.S. has to be allowed to retain its white/christian character"


I hope you can respond calmly without getting overly emotional or personal.


3 Mar 2015 - 6:40am
Israel to blame for Australia's rise in anti-Semitism: Margolyes

The 'horrific, ugly head' of anti-Semitism is rising in Australia and Israel is to blame, Jewish actress Miriam Margolyes says.

Stephanie Anderson
Jewish actress Miriam Margolyes says that anti-Semitism is rising in Australia and Israel is to blame.

Ms Margolyes’ comments, which sent “Miriam” trending across Australian Twitter accounts, came in response to a question from an audience member during the ABC’s Q&A program.
Speaking in the wake of the #IllRideWithYou campaign which supported Muslim Australians following the Sydney siege, questioner Erin Gordon asked the show’s panellists why Australian Jews had not seen the same levels of support.
“Who would ride with us, the Australian Jews if we were to travel in particular areas of Sydney and our religious clothing?” she said.
“Anti-Semitic attacks have risen 35 per cent in the past year and physical incidents 200 per cent. Why is there this precedent, yet we have received no widespread support from the general public?”
Ms Margolyes, who was raised in a Jewish household, said it was an uncomfortable truth, but people “don’t like Jews” due to the actions of Israel.
She said the “appalling treatment of the Israelis towards the Palestinian and the settlements that have been built in contravention of the United Nations rulings “ had led to an increase in anti-Semitism.
“We have to just keep fighting about it and demand that we are given the respect that all citizens should enjoy and a sense of safety that all citizens should enjoy,” she said.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/03/israel-blame-australias-rise-anti-semitism-margolyes



Terrorism's Christian Godfather

By Scott MacLeod/Cairo Monday, Jan. 28, 2008

"Habash's group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palest ine (P F L P), pioneered the hi jacking of airplanes as a Middle East terror tactic — one eventually employed by the al-Qaeda hi jackers on 9/11 — way back in 1968 when three P F L P armed operatives commandeered an Israel i El Al ai rliner enroute from Rome to Tel Aviv. Checking in for a flight has never been the same since.

Many P F L P operations remain etched into history as some of the most infamous acts of terrorism. In 1970, P F L P terrorists hijacked four air liners at one time, flew three of them to Jordan, blew them up, and triggered the Black September civil war between Jordan's Hashemite monarchy and Palestinian guerrillas. In 1972, Japanese Red Army terrorists working with the PFLP massacred 24 people at Israel's Lod International Air port (now called B e n G u r i o n International Air port).

What led Habash, a Christian physician — hence his nickname al-Hakim or the doctor — into such a life, of revolution, of killing? The son of a well-to-do merchant, he was trained at the American University of Beirut, the most liberal university in the Middle East then as now. His background was almost identical to that of his best friend, Wadia Haddad, the No. 2 in the PFLP and the operational genius and passionate proponent of the group's terrorist acts. When I asked Habash that question during a series of interviews many years ago, he simply told me about his personal experiences when his family lost its home during israel's 1948 War of Independence, what the Palestinians call the C a t a s t r o p h e."

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...707366,00.html

that's why ppl talk about radical islam and sharia law. the problem is that you criticize ppl for identifying it as a unique ideology. you say you wont differentiate it from govt in general. do you say the same when ppl talk about communism, fascism, socialism, etc.? that all statist philosphies shouldn't be differentiated? you again deny the philosophy itself bycomparing it to different reliegious beleivers or atheist commiting violence. you fundamentally ignore the key issue: ideology. no one is saying that every muslim act of violence is religiously based. but there are a huge amount of muslim states, organizations and individuals that do commit acts of violence, and cite islam as their justification (and the quran and hadith literally endorse the vast majority of the things they say).

I would concede that since Iraqi freedom invasion, there is acclerated Islamization of countries that led the freedom march for Iraqi arab muslims.


54% of GOP Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim, Only 45% of Dems Believe Obama Is Christian

Obama's grandmother visits Makkah
Al Arabiya
Apr 24, 2015 - Sara Omar, paternal grandmother of President Obama, attended an exhibition detailing the life of the Prophet Mohammad in Saudi Arabia.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vari...n-Makkah-.html

Sadly, similar developments are ahead for UK/Australia as happened in the US in next 10-20 years as Iraq blowback effects speed up Islamization there.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Good thing Christians never killed anybody and all Muslims are terrorists (all billion plus of them!!)

Those nice KKK boys promoting Christian values by burning and lynching innocent people. The Cursades where millions of Muslims were told to either convert or die. The IRA "troubles" in Ireland were Catholics and Protestants killing each other and innocents with bombs and bullets. Eric Rudolph- the Olympic bomber was a Christian. Oklahoma City was not Muslims- worst domestic terrorism attack outside 9/11. You can't label an entire group based on the actions of a few.

Let's ban all religions. Except maybe the Quakers and Buddhists.

You refer to Hitler as bad. He used exactly what you are using- fear of a different religion (Judaism) to promote his own goals. "We don't want those people part of our society!"

 

[OReich]

Do you believe arabs and jews are qual as races and neither race is more chosen than the other?

Who in your view is responsible to Iraq Freedom bloodbath that is resulting in cleansing of Christians out of mideast/AlQaeda-Israel-Saudi marriage and later fast Islamization (at least symbolic) of all major Iraqi Freedom invaders - US, UK, Australia ?

What is your view on Zionists' open-ended oppression/occupation of palestinian muslims/christians going on for over 4 decades and anti-semitism towards Palestinians?

Do you support or oppose this call?

"U.S. has to be allowed to retain its white/christian character"


I hope you can respond calmly without getting overly emotional or personal.


3 Mar 2015 - 6:40am
Israel to blame for Australia's rise in anti-Semitism: Margolyes

The 'horrific, ugly head' of anti-Semitism is rising in Australia and Israel is to blame, Jewish actress Miriam Margolyes says.

Stephanie Anderson
Jewish actress Miriam Margolyes says that anti-Semitism is rising in Australia and Israel is to blame.

Ms Margolyes’ comments, which sent “Miriam” trending across Australian Twitter accounts, came in response to a question from an audience member during the ABC’s Q&A program.
Speaking in the wake of the #IllRideWithYou campaign which supported Muslim Australians following the Sydney siege, questioner Erin Gordon asked the show’s panellists why Australian Jews had not seen the same levels of support.
“Who would ride with us, the Australian Jews if we were to travel in particular areas of Sydney and our religious clothing?” she said.
“Anti-Semitic attacks have risen 35 per cent in the past year and physical incidents 200 per cent. Why is there this precedent, yet we have received no widespread support from the general public?”
Ms Margolyes, who was raised in a Jewish household, said it was an uncomfortable truth, but people “don’t like Jews” due to the actions of Israel.
She said the “appalling treatment of the Israelis towards the Palestinian and the settlements that have been built in contravention of the United Nations rulings “ had led to an increase in anti-Semitism.
“We have to just keep fighting about it and demand that we are given the respect that all citizens should enjoy and a sense of safety that all citizens should enjoy,” she said.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/03/israel-blame-australias-rise-anti-semitism-margolyes



Terrorism's Christian Godfather

By Scott MacLeod/Cairo Monday, Jan. 28, 2008

"Habash's group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palest ine (P F L P), pioneered the hi jacking of airplanes as a Middle East terror tactic — one eventually employed by the al-Qaeda hi jackers on 9/11 — way back in 1968 when three P F L P armed operatives commandeered an Israel i El Al ai rliner enroute from Rome to Tel Aviv. Checking in for a flight has never been the same since.

Many P F L P operations remain etched into history as some of the most infamous acts of terrorism. In 1970, P F L P terrorists hijacked four air liners at one time, flew three of them to Jordan, blew them up, and triggered the Black September civil war between Jordan's Hashemite monarchy and Palestinian guerrillas. In 1972, Japanese Red Army terrorists working with the PFLP massacred 24 people at Israel's Lod International Air port (now called B e n G u r i o n International Air port).

What led Habash, a Christian physician — hence his nickname al-Hakim or the doctor — into such a life, of revolution, of killing? The son of a well-to-do merchant, he was trained at the American University of Beirut, the most liberal university in the Middle East then as now. His background was almost identical to that of his best friend, Wadia Haddad, the No. 2 in the PFLP and the operational genius and passionate proponent of the group's terrorist acts. When I asked Habash that question during a series of interviews many years ago, he simply told me about his personal experiences when his family lost its home during israel's 1948 War of Independence, what the Palestinians call the C a t a s t r o p h e."

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...707366,00.html








I would concede that since Iraqi freedom invasion, there is acclerated Islamization of countries that led the freedom march for Iraqi arab muslims.


54% of GOP Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim, Only 45% of Dems Believe Obama Is Christian

Obama's grandmother visits Makkah
Al Arabiya
Apr 24, 2015 - Sara Omar, paternal grandmother of President Obama, attended an exhibition detailing the life of the Prophet Mohammad in Saudi Arabia.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vari...n-Makkah-.html

Sadly, similar developments are ahead for UK/Australia as happened in the US in next 10-20 years as Iraq blowback effects speed up Islamization there.

Israel isn't responsible for anti-semitism in Australia's Muslim community, the prophet Muhammad is. He promised to kill every Jew, did in fact kill Jews for being Jewish in Kaybar (northern Arabia) and other places, and called them the descendants of apes and pigs. So when you see Muslims in the US chanting "We are Hamas" (which quotes Muhammad calling for Jew-killing in the Hadith), or "Kaybar, Kaybar Oh Jew" and "Muhammad's army will return" at a rally that's purportedly for "peace," remember what human being these ppl are obsessing over and emulating. I'm not accusing ppl of secretly wanting to kill Jews, I'm accusing them of literally meaning what they say when they happily call for the killing of Jews: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...mas-Kaybar-Oh-Jew-Muhammad-s-army-will-return If Muslims cared about Israel over Muslims being killed, then where are the riots and flag-burning over ISIS, al-Qaida, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Assad, Boko Haram...

Yep, I've always said I believe in equality. Israel is the one country in the Middle East where every religious group and gender has equal rights. Palestine is where they don't allow anyone to vote, and where they execute ppl for criticizing or leaving Islam, being gay, being raped, or committing adultery. Palestine is where Jews are not allowed to live, Palestine is where ppl are executed for selling land to Jews. Palestine is where children are taught in schools that killing Jews will get them to heaven. Palestine is where they insist no Jew can ever, ever live, by law. Palestine attacks Israel endlessly, promising to destroy all of it since before either side stole land, and promising to kick out or kill every Jew (Hamas promises to kill every Jew, governs 40% of the Palestinian population in Gaza, and is the recognized government by the PA). Israel offers peace treaties, Palestine rejects all peace treaties and says that all negotiations were a farce (Arafat said this repeatedly, referencing the Oslo Accords and failed Camp David accords).

You vilify the one country in the Middle East that treats every religious group equally. You vilify the one country where Muslims vote in real elections, the one country where women are protected from rape abuse by husbands and other family members, the one country where Jews can live or pray without being harassed. You ignore the fact that Palestine attacks Israel and promises to kick out or kill every Jew, and has in fact kicked out any Jews under their jurisdiction, and then you have the audacity to imply that I'm the one who thinks ppl should be treated differently? Palestine executes ppl for converting to Christianity, and you condemn Israel for oppressing Palestinian Christians?

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I wonder what will Islam-lovers feel if Nazis start a new religion with Hitler as their prophet, etc; I wonder if Islam-lovers will then protect this new religion to avoid religious discrimination, & talk of respecting "moderate" nazis & hating "radical" nazis & stuff. Should be interesting

 

[OReich]

I wonder what will Islam-lovers feel if Nazis start a new religion with Hitler as their prophet, etc; I wonder if Islam-lovers will then protect this new religion to avoid religious discrimination, & talk of respecting "moderate" nazis & hating "radical" nazis & stuff. Should be interesting

Exactly. I'd say the same thing about the old Jewish kingdoms, or the Catholic Church, or any Jewish terrorist that burns a baby alive like last week. But we don't need to pretend away and ignore the massive quantity of violence coming from Islamism, and the massive support it receives. Its not just 'terrorism,' its Sharia law violently oppressing ppl with the arm of the state, just like Muhammad himself when he conquered vast amounts of land in his lifetime. Its insane to think that we need to modify free speech because Muslims freak out if we criticize a pedophile serial killer. I have no problem making fun of Judaism and Mozes or any other religion, but somehow the only religion we're not allowed to criticize is the one that's used as a legal system by hundreds of millions of people. Muslim extremists have twisted blasphemy into hate speech, as if criticizing Muhammad, a real human being that raped and murdered children, means we therefore hate people. We happily criticize violent religious texts that sit on a page doing nothing, but then refuse to talk about violent religious texts that are in fact responsible for being killed every day, hether through terrorism or state violence.

No one is saying round up the Muslims. I'm just pissed that millions of Muslims openly want me to be rounded up, and some are in my hometown: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forum.php Forgive me for being upset if my fellow Americans want me dead. I hope my desire to stay alive doesn't offend all you "tolerant" folk.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I wonder what will Islam-lovers feel if Nazis start a new religion with Hitler as their prophet, etc; I wonder if Islam-lovers will then protect this new religion to avoid religious discrimination, & talk of respecting "moderate" nazis & hating "radical" nazis & stuff. Should be interesting

So you support what Hitler did via the Jews. They should have been repressed and driven out. As we should with the Muslims. As Arab countries should do with Christians. We can re-divide all countries based solely on Religion.

 

[OReich]

So you support what Hitler did via the Jews. They should have been repressed and driven out. As we should with the Muslims. As Arab countries should do with Christians. We can re-divide all countries based solely on Religion.

You're a pathetic troll, and the ppl who think you're real are even more pathetic.

 

[alucard13mm]

Its very telling if you go to muslim countries and you are expected to blend in and follow their customs... but once they are in the west and free, they want you to make exceptions for them.

Even in asian muslims countries like, indonesia, you have to list your religion on your id card. Imagine the outrage if you had to list your religion and gun ownership on id cards...

 

[Zippyjuan]

It is very telling (and sad) that we claim to be in favor of freedom and liberty (not just on the forum but in the country as a whole) yet want to exclude people who aren't like us and want the same freedoms and liberties- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association. Freedoms enshrined in the Constitution. To be free, you must also be able to tolerate others who do not agree with you. Freedom for some is not truely freedom.

 

[OReich]

It is very telling (and sad) that we claim to be in favor of freedom and liberty (not just on the forum but in the country as a whole) yet want to exclude people who aren't like us and want the same freedoms and liberties- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association. Freedoms enshrined in the Constitution. To be free, you must also be able to tolerate others who do not agree with you. Freedom for some is not truely freedom.

So if I criticize a Muslim extremist for murdering an innocent civilians, that means I'm a bigot who hates the constitution and wants to keep out all Muslims? Where did I say this? Identifying the fact that there are Muslim bigots is the equivalent of wanting to round them up? Muhammad literally called on his followers to fight and kill Jews specifically, and I say I don't like that, that means I want people to be kicked out of this country? I'm identifying the source of a violent ideology. Its that simple. All you do is build up strawmen; you blatantly accuse ppl of wanting bigoted policies for complaining about Islamic bigotry, then joke that you're a paid agent of Israel (as if that doesn't play into Jewish stereotypes). Do you think that a Muslim that supports Sharia law supports religious freedom? Its a simple question, I'm sorry if that's too tough for you to answer.

I'm not singling out Islam, ppl screaming "Allahu Ahkbar" as they kidnap and murder thousands single out Islam. States that execute ppl for violating Islamic law single out Islam. I'm just identifying the fact that ppl want to kill me for being a Jew, atheist and (proud) blasphemer.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Those who commit crimes should be punished for them. Having a belief- however extreme- is not a crime. Religion should not be the issue (or even an issue). White Christian extremists also commit violent crimes against innocent people.