Re-cutting "FOR LIBERTY" to be used as a RP/R3V 2012 campaign tool - View within

[ForLibertyFight]

Great video.
It reminded me of the first time I heard the message of liberty. Truly inspirational.

I do want to offer some constructive criticism:

- CPAC victories in 2010 and 2011 need to be included. It will show how the movement has progressed from almost nothing to winning the biggest conservative conventions two years in a row. It will also show people who are exposed to Ron's message for the first time that we HAVE a shot at winning in 2012.
- I think more video "quotes" about Ron Paul need to be included. Things that tell the new viewers about his integrity, message and honesty.
This video IMO would fit right in.


Continue your great work.

 

[Dave Aiello]

3:50 - 4:28 is beatuiful. I've never heard a single statement which better describes exactly why we all love Ron Paul. 3:05 - 3:45 is excellent as well.

 

[AdamT]

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With the video in its current form, you ignite a very strong desire in people to see Ron Paul as president. What you need to work on now is the second half of the equation, figuring out how to develop that belief in people watching it that he can win. Here is my suggestion. Leave everything the way it is now, except for the edits you planned to incorporate to make it better. What you need to do is take the ending as it is right now at the Rally for the Republic and expand it. This might require you to cut some more unnecessary parts from the first part of the film in order to keep the running time the same. In expanding the ending, what needs to be added are the accomplishments of Ron Paul's grassroots movement since his campaign ended, the Audit the Fed bill gaining mainstream acceptance, the rise of the tea party triggered by Ron's campaign, his son Rand Paul's election to the senate, his massive acceptance and newfound exposure in the media as a ratings powerhouse, our back to back wins at CPAC and finally ending the film with Ron announcing his 2012 bid for the presidency, the viewer's new goal to look forward to. Hopefully you'll have your footage of Ron's announcement within the month.

This might seem like a lot to cover in the short amount of time allowed, but I think it can be done. We don't need to have a full focus on each of these events, maybe a minute to two minutes or even less on each event just glossing over what happened, but they need to be shown back to back, each event propelling Ron even further into the spotlight and the acceptance of the media. There's a lot of acceptance from the media to be shown, such as the hosts of some of these shows begging him to run again, like Dylan Ratigan's recent interview with Ron, or even acceptance from the general public, such as his rise in the polls or his hypothetical tie with Obama. All of this will help to create the perception or belief in the viewer that Ron has accomplished much since the campaign and really can win now. I'd like a comment from you guys on my suggestion if possible. I believe it's probably the most important thing you still need to convey within the film, the belief that he can win in 2012. Then we can mass produce this thing and get it out to potential voters!

I understand the need for this, and thanks for the thorough run-down. This is something I've thought about before, but the way you spelled it out was really good. I think this might be doable, but we don't have any interviews covering the storyline after the Rally. I may be able to shoot a new interview with Jack Hunter (he will be here in WI the end of April) that could cover some of it.

I am thinking this section could maybe stand apart from the rest, in that it might look different or be in a slightly different style. Could this be an Avaroth-style 3-4 min section kind of stepping through time following the Rally up until the 2012 announcement?

What I would need are the best Youtube clips that can be assembled with the best soundbytes to tell the story building up to the 2012 announcement. We can take care of the rest, but any help assembling these YTs would really help make this happen, as it wasn't something we had originally planned on doing.

Yeah, a lot has happened since 2008, and RP has been on countless programs for interviews - but we just want the best bits out of all that to effectively do the job. Much will have to be skipped over. He's given good speeches at CPAC 2010 & 2011 (have footage from both), but we need the absolute best bits of the story to do it in a speedy manner with the most impact. Then the 2012 announcement clip (when it happens lol) will be the last clip.

Need to lay out a storyboard of what clips (with timecodes) and in what order. Anyone want to assist with this?

 

[nayjevin]

I am thinking this section could maybe stand apart from the rest, in that it might look different or be in a slightly different style.

I had a similar thought, kind of picturing a dvd menu with two videos, split down the middle, one side 'for liberty - the story of last election' and the other side 'the plan for this election.'

Need to lay out a storyboard of what clips (with timecodes) and in what order. Anyone want to assist with this?

I've always worked by allowing this to happen during production, I suppose I get a pretty good idea in my head of what I want, but it tends to work out organically. I'm not all that experienced though, what are your thoughts on this? Glad to help but I don't see how one person could make a storyboard then another make a video. Maybe folks give suggestions with more specific timecodes and leave the rest up to the artist?

 

[AdamT]

I had a similar thought, kind of picturing a dvd menu with two videos, split down the middle, one side 'for liberty - the story of last election' and the other side 'the plan for this election.'

I envision the new section immediately following the last clip at the Rally where RP is waving in slow-mo. The music there might even get edited to carry a little bit over into the new section as a transition. Then a new song might start up with the new section to deliver this thing in an uplifting way. Essentially where the credits/blooper section is now. It would go there in place of that (credits/bloopers will likely be cut in it's current form).

I've always worked by allowing this to happen during production, I suppose I get a pretty good idea in my head of what I want, but it tends to work out organically. I'm not all that experienced though, what are your thoughts on this? Glad to help but I don't see how one person could make a storyboard then another make a video. Maybe folks give suggestions with more specific timecodes and leave the rest up to the artist?

Bad wording on "storyboard", meant more of a shot list of YT links with timecodes of the needed soundbytes.

 

[Sentinelrv]

If you're actually thinking about doing this then you might want to start a new thread solely for getting help in creating this new section. This thread is currently dedicated to something else and many people may not be visiting it anymore because they think they already know what it's about. If you create a new thread, maybe include my quote there and then tell people what you need from them in order for this to get done, what kinds of video clips for which events. I'm sure a new discussion will evolve out of this adding a lot more ideas to how it could be done, what should be included and why. I'd also post it in the Ron Paul Grassroots Central forum, because it will get lost in General Politics, just as what's happening to this thread.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

I think it was a great re-cut, it gets me so excited everytime I watch it. I can't wait. I definitely think adding clips in of him polling neck and neck with Obama and other people encouraging him to run (Dylan Ratigan) are good additions.

 

[Dave Aiello]

much needed bump

 

[Eric21ND]

Not sure how I missed this video in the past!! One of the best "get to know Ron" video's I have seen.

If there was one video to introduce Ron Paul to people I would probably give them this video to watch. I love how he talks about being a doctor, his military experience, and his family. All three topics are winners and you can literally see Dr. Paul glowing when talking about delivering babies. He comes across so cute and charming. And if he comes across that way to me, women would eat this up!

 

[Vessol]

Excellent stuff.

 

[Eric21ND]

Have looked into it and BR is approx 3x the cost to manufacture vs DVD. There are other problems though.....authoring one of these is vastly more complex, right now I don't own a BR burner or any of the software that would be needed to author. Just not sure it's the right time for a BR, especially considering these are meant for handouts.

Another thing is acquiring 720p or better version of the bonus material sections would be really difficult. People make these as web videos and probably aren't thinking about HD. Some might not even be sourced in HD, so the benefits of the BR format would be moreless wasted. The Doc is sourced at 720p 24p, so that would look beautiful. But the rest....

Good points, thanks for looking into anyway. 720p looks quite nice so no complaints. Cost is a factor as well, I know I want to be able to put these in the hands of every primary voter in Iowa.

 

[Eric21ND]

This video doesn't get any love around here not sure why, but I think its great. If you wanted to invoke a sadness to losing the campaign in 2008, I suggest using this song, or maybe it could be used when the credits roll, either way its a powerful song.

This song was written and performed at CAMELOT CASTLE HOTEL, ENGLAND written and performed by John Mappin. It is dedicated to RON PAUL and is a tribute to the wonderful work that he is doing. More details at www.camelotcastle.com and at www.ripplesofpeace.org

 

[Eric21ND]

We need more intellectuals speaking well of Dr. Paul....more Thomas Woods, more Michael Scheuer, more Daniel Hannan. Maybe we can include something on the extras. Scheuer has a great video on youtube thats 40 mins long and Hannan had an amazing exchange with Sean Hannity over foreign policy and Hannity got owned. Both pieces back up Ron Paul's position wholeheartedly.

 

[Eric21ND]

Found another good video with a Vietnam veteran.

 

[extrmmxer]

Fantastic cut version. Huge asset for 2012. Thanks for all your hard work.

 

[Eric21ND]

Whats the status?

 

[AdamT]

Just finished shooting a new interview with Jack Hunter to drive the addendum section. Great commentary from Jack, he walked us through the end of 2008 up to the 2012 announcement. Here's a still.

 

[Sentinelrv]

So you're going ahead with the expansion at the end of the video then? If so, that's great because this will be a great tool used to convert people.

 

[AdamT]

Yep, new 4 minute ending is what we're planning.

 

[fj45lvr]

there is time restraints of course but it would be nice for the mentally challenged to engage in critical thinking to give a bit more biographical info on those commenting on Paul and the campaign.