Raul Grijalva: Tea Party 'Threatening Our Form Of Government'

[__27__]

Not as much as a democracy is.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, clearly my client did in fact rape that young girl, but I urge you to consider that he raped her less than what the prosecution has asserted.

 

[sailingaway]

LOL!!

"The best thing she could do to help our discourse is keep quiet...."

That is CLASSIC liberal 'tolerance' for other opinions......

 

[xd9fan]

what form of Govt do we have again????

 

[Dr.3D]

what form of Govt do we have again????

It's supposed to be a republic.
Of course there are those who oppose any kind of government, and those people live in a world of make believe.

 

[pcosmar]

what form of Govt do we have again????

What we have?, or what we are supposed to have?

 

[__27__]

It's supposed to be a republic.
Of course there are those who oppose any kind of government, and those people live in a world of make believe.

Yes, clearly those who wish NOT to shove guns in their neighbors face are the ones who live in make believe.

Minarchists, thy cognitive dissonance knows no limits.

 

[Dr.3D]

Yes, clearly those who wish NOT to shove guns in their neighbors face are the ones who live in make believe.

Minarchists, thy cognitive dissonance knows no limits.

Okay smart guy, show me where it this world your form of non government exists. If it doesn't exist, then it is make believe.

 

[__27__]

Okay smart guy, show me where it this world your form of non government exists. If it doesn't exist, then it is make believe.

Okay smart guy, show me where in this world your "limited government" exists. If it doesn't exist, then it is make believe.

Are you really going to use that poor of an argument? If so then anything other than leviathan states waging war around the world and printing money at will is make believe. You better stop supporting Ron and his goal of ending central banking, clearly all of his goals are just make believe.

 

[Dr.3D]

Okay smart guy, show me where in this world your "limited government" exists. If it doesn't exist, then it is make believe.

Are you really going to use that poor of an argument? If so then anything other than leviathan states waging war around the world and printing money at will is make believe. You better stop supporting Ron and his goal of ending central banking, clearly all of his goals are just make believe.

Well sir, limited government did exist for some time in the United States. It would be great if we could return to that limited government. As for the complete lack of government ever existing, perhaps it may have in the days of the cave man, but then again, there is no record of it and thus we can't be sure it ever existed.

 

[__27__]

Well sir, limited government did exist for some time in the United States. It would be great if we could return to that limited government. As for the complete lack of government ever existing, perhaps it may have in the days of the cave man, but then again, there is no record of it and thus we can't be sure it ever existed.

Your level of ignorance on the subject coupled with the air of "I know it all" arrogance is disgusting. You don't even know the history but think you can lecture others on what did and didn't happen.

All of this is beside the point that the system you advocate still requires the initiation of violence on people to gain their obedience to your state. You may be okay with sticking guns in peoples faces to get them to act as you wish, I am not.

BTW, how did that limited US government turn out? Its still a tiny body that barely infringes on any of its citizens....right? Or is it in fact the largest state in history? If you'd like to do your own research on history rather than pulling things out of your ass you could begin by studying the history of states. You would find, just as any Austrian Economist could have told you, the smaller a state begins, the larger it ends. It has been empirically proven time and time again throughout history, but so much for learning from history, right? Your state will be different, right? You will somehow sprinkle magic pixie dust on it and it will defy every piece of logic and history, right?

You believe in make believe.

 

[silverhandorder]

Okay smart guy, show me where in this world your "limited government" exists. If it doesn't exist, then it is make believe.

Are you really going to use that poor of an argument? If so then anything other than leviathan states waging war around the world and printing money at will is make believe. You better stop supporting Ron and his goal of ending central banking, clearly all of his goals are just make believe.

Excuse me but would you take that kind of argument from a slave owner for the first time asking abolitionists to show him where there ever was a society without slavery? I didn't think so.

 

[__27__]

Excuse me but would you take that kind of argument from a slave owner for the first time asking abolitionists to show him where there ever was a society without slavery? I didn't think so.

Welcome to the conversation, sarcasm can be tough to spot if you jump in mid conversation. You should be speaking to 3D, it is his argument not mine.

 

[pcosmar]

Your level of ignorance on the subject coupled with the air of "I know it all" arrogance is disgusting.

Not really.
Even when you look at "primitive" cultures (history) There was still government. Whether clan or tribal, there is still leaders and laws.Still judgement for crossing the line of what is acceptable.
There has never been a time known without such.

You believe in make believe.

to believe otherwise is make believe.

 

[anaconda]

Damn right we're threatening "his form" of government..