Rate Ron's question to McCain

[UziSprayTF]

It was a bad question, I didnt understand it and that means the average joe didnt either. It doesn't matter that McCain didn't look like he knew what he was talking about because everyone else will sympathize with him.

How bout asking "If you got the nomination, is there any way that you would win the general election after making statements that we should be in Iraq for 100 years."

I think this debate overall was his worst tbh. Part of it was because he got zero time and when he did get time he stuttered and seem to mangle his thoughts. The outright unbalance of time was ridiculous.

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It was obvious that McCain didn't know what RP was talking about. But I don't know if it was obvious to the average person.

He could have done a better job showing that McCain is economically illiterate. Maybe something like, "How do you plan to pay for 700 military bases in 130 countries AND cut taxes without bankrupting the country?"

Honestly, I think it's moot anyway. By the time the next president takes office, we'll be in a depression.

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[CurtisLow]

I don't know what he meant.

Ditto, And so did the general public

 

[romeo2]

watch it again. it makes sense if you watch it again. i was like you guys going "wtf, uh i know its an economy question and i know mccain couldnt answer it, but i need to watch it again to hopefully get it" and now that i have, it makes a lot of sense, and i was lmao!!! he didnt answer ANY part of the question, but yeah too bad itll go over everybody's head if they dont watch it again. oh yeah, watch it again.

 

[tropicangela]

Why didn't McCain NAME the group? It seemed like RP wanted him to say the group's name or see if he would say it to give feedback - testing to see if he knew wth he was talking about. McCain never answered the damn question... he never said yes he would get rid of the group or not get rid of the group. I don't even know what group!

 

[RustyBrewster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

 

[Paul4Prez]

It was way too obscure for the average voter, but probably a net positive, to show McCain rambling and avoiding the question.

There were certainly a lot of stronger attack questions he could have used, on any of the candidates, but I think this was seriously a question that Ron Paul was asking as a concerned American citizen, to arguably the leading Republican contender right now -- I think he asked the question out of genuine curiosity.

 

[true_american_patriot]

Hahahaha the fact that so many people have voted this 10, or even above 5 is a sign that this forum is full of 'sheeple' following a different type of pastor. It was a terrible question that was spoken terribly. Why do I care that he probably doesn't know what the blah blah committee is? Is it that important? I've personally never heard of it. Paul didn't even frame it as an attack on his knowledge (maybe out of fear that he might actually know) and instead asked him whether he'd cut it or take its advice... It was just... so terrible.

Attacking him on social security would have been a much better economics question.

Hardly! If you had been paying attention to the debate, early on McCain made a claim that he was 'a well versed expert in economics'. So with Paul asking a question in which McCain sounded like Miss Teen South Carolina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww) answering the question, speaks volumes on McCain's knowledge of economics. ZERO! He'll have all of his cabinet members do his job of being President for him. Team McCain for President!

I voted 10 for this question, because it was brialliant of Paul to ask McCain a question of this magnitude. Who cares if Joe Sixpack understood the question or not. Those that did, will certainly not vote for McCain because of his econimic prowess, or lack thereof.

Perhaps it is you that is 'sheeple' around here?!?

 

[DFF]

At the time, I thought it was bad question, since I didn't understand it. Now, I realize it was just a trap to make McCain look like a economic moron. The "WTF?" look on his face was absolutely priceless.

 

[pacelli]

Dr. Paul laid a trap, and showed how ignorant McCain is on fiscal policy. The current response is not the important part, it's going to be the rehashing of this question later... when McCain's ignorance is pointed out.

Exactly. He shifted his answer and transitioned once AGAIN to talking about his "team" of economic people. He couldn't answer the question because he had no idea what Dr. Paul was talking about.

I think Dr. Paul's intelligence really shined through on this question. It was a strategic move: Allow McCain to expose himself for the idiot that he is on economic policy. And the MSM had been hyping up ALL DAY that the economy was the most important issue on the minds of Americans.

 

[idiom]

He needed to follow up with "So what you are saying is that you don't know who they are, even though they report directly to the President. You don't have an opinion on the Plunge Protection Team, as they are often called, who are trying desperately to prop up the economy? Thats what you are saying, You don't know."

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

At the time, I thought it was bad question, since I didn't understand it. Now, I realize it was just a trap to make McCain look like a economic moron. The "WTF?" look on his face was absolutely priceless.

+1

Yeah, that question was slap in the face for McCain on so many levels. And his reaction was so funny I almost fell out of my chair. But I don't think the question was even meant to speak to the average voter. It was clearly asked for another purpose that we will see the payoff for later.


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[asifp]

Frankly I think it did nothing. Ron Paul talked about a committee that less than 1% of the americans knew about and McCain was able to dance around it.

 

[Tidewise]

"plunge Protection Team"

From Wikipedia:

"Plunge Protection Team"

One theory regarding the Working Group refers to it as the Plunge Protection Team. This theory claims that the Working Group is a scheme to manipulate U.S. stock markets in the event of a market crash by using government funds to buy stocks, or other instruments such as stock index futures.

The term "Plunge Protection Team" was originally the headline for an article in The Washington Post by staff writer Brett D. Fromson, published on Sunday, February 23, 1997.[2] He did not invent the term. It was added later by a copy desk editor as a sensational nickname for the Working Group.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets

 

[The Machine]

It was way too obscure for the average voter, but probably a net positive, to show McCain rambling and avoiding the question.

...I think he asked the question out of genuine curiosity.

I'm not a mind reader, but my take on this, is, that Ron was trying to show McCain is both ignorant on economics, and he is aligned with the establshment insiders.

Many people watching probably didn't get it; because the average viewer has the intelligence of an 8th grader.

There are two governments...the one that is superficially displayed to the public, which is the perceived reality of the majority; the other is a "shadow" government--controlled by private interests--which is the one that McCain has allegiance to. He knew darn well what Ron was refering to, but, his loyalty to the private interests would not allow him to ellaborate on the question. So the end result was, McCain rambled an incoherent answer that would blow by most viewers, and not expose his deep involvement in the alternate government. After all; he is a candidate of change--like the others profess to be--and the illusion has to be upheld. He certainly isn't an economic wiz, but that won't be obvious to the average viewer either.

Based on who comprises the majority of viewers, I'll give it a 3.

 

[Gadsdenfly]

I think it made McCain look weak on economics but that had already been done. Most peopel write RP off as some sort of gold bug economic geek and they don't get this sort of thing. Pretty good but he probably could have come up with a zinger to someone that would have made the soundbites. 6/10

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

I don't know what he meant.

He gets 1 for this!
But truly what helped is the reaction of McCain because his answer and his look regarding Economics proved that he knows nothing about it and that he depends on others to do it for him.
I still going to give 1 for this question.

 

[JohnnyWrath]

I gave it a six...it was obvious to some that McCain probably didn't even know what the group was, but it was NOT obvious enough to the retards in TV land that McCain didn't know anything about it....the delivery wasn't that great in my opinion...but it was the right idea, show that McCain doesn't know anything...he should have asked him why he missed more votes than any other Senator in Washington aside from a guy who's health prevented him from ever returning...McCain is #1 in missing votes with like 55% of votes missed.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

7....Great question and McCain couldn't answer, but Ron never forced him to answer.

I think he tried but he did not get a chance to move forward

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

I gave it 7. It totally exposed McCain's lie about being "well-versed" on the economy. Sadly it was so convoluted that McCain's rambling non-answer might fool a few people.

It was clear McCain was at a complete loss, but you can full some of the people all of the time...

Hopefully we will see more of this in the coverage!

 

[joshdvm]

Putting aside the merits of the question, it would have been much more worthwhile if RP had assertively spoken up toward the end of McCain's fumbling non-answer and said something like, "Senator, you haven't answered whether or not as President you'd keep this Working Group in place—from your response I’m not sure you even understood what I asked you…”

The other candidates do this all the time to each other over trivial things. A little assertiveness here could have gotten some attention and turned this into a home run.