Rand's WSJ Op-Ed: Blow Up the Tax Code and Start Over

[Occam's Banana]

Why does the RPF's occasionally freeze up and then save multiple duplicate posts?

Methinks your connection or computer freezes up and you submit the same page multiple times.

The freezing is on the RPF side. The multiple posts is on the user side when you try resubmitting or refreshing the page in the middle of said freeze

Notice the timestamp on anaconda's first post: 3:38 AM CDT (a different hour may be shown for you, depending on your time zone).

RPFs "freezes" every day from about 3:35 to 3:40 AM CDT. I assume that some kind of automated "housekeeping" is being done during this time (cleaning up and compressing databases or stuff like that, I would guess).

If you try to post anything during that time, you are apt to end up with one or more duplicates of your post. This seems to happen when you try to submit a post while the housekeeping process is running. To avoid this, don't try to post anything during this five-or-so minute "window."

If you do try to post something during this time and you get a prompt to "leave the page" or "resend," choose "leave the page" - "resend"ing will result in a duplicate post.

My guess for why this happens - and this is pure, wild-ass speculation on my part (I know nothing about vBulletin internals) - is that when you submit a post during housekeeping, you post is temporarily stored in a queue until the the housekeeping process terminates (at which time your queued post will be submitted). At the same time, the submission process "times out" (because the post database is not available for modification during housekeeping) and asks whether you want to resubmit your post - even though your post is already queued for submission. (Apparently the submission process is unaware of the housekeeping process's temporary queue for submissions.) Or something like that ...

 

[axiomata]

The proposal is $15k exemption per filer (so $30k joint) and $5k per dependent. It's relatively consistent (but with larger numbers) with the current tax code where a single filer gets ~$10k in deduction/exemptions; married gets ~$20k; additional dependents are ~$4k exemption.

30+5+5=40 not 50

 

[Uriah]

30+5+5=40 not 50

It's not $5k per dependent rather $5k per person. 15+15+5+5+5+5=50

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I've always supported this idea! Man, people would be a LOT more attentive to government pigs if they were forced to pay the bill themselves...

Precisely! Make the mouthbreathers aware.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Beck and company were drooling over Rand's tax plan today. Pat the one who usually hates on Rand said it made him want to leave the radio show and work to get Rand elected like Kibbe. Pretty good stuff.

Got a link?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I like it because it is a straight attempt to write an original Constitutional principle into the current paradigm. The apportioning of taxes to the States (the States collect XYZ tax and pay their portion to the federal government according to the number of population in your State.) and leave the State to determine how it collects revenue.

The idea was "balanced equally on all persons." In today's withholding state and wage taxation nobody really knows where the balance lands. By restoring an original Constitutional principle into existence within a currently-written Constitutional paradigm, I find myself thoroughly impressed. If carried out, this could fully prepare the economy and the nation as a whole to repeal the 16thA and restore State apportioning. The restoration of State apportioning will make the States the king governments in America again.

Exciting huh?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Honestly not feeling the whole "family of four" deal. It's essentially penalizing people who don't want or have a large (larger) family. Seems he could have done without that part. The first $50k should be exempt regardless of how many are in your household.

Darn, I thought the first 50k I make was exempt. I don't want to pay for a family of four to keep my 50k

 

[LatinsforPaul]

Got a link?

https://soundcloud.com/glennbeck/prayers-for-charleston-south-carolina-61815#t=1:54:10

and...

 

[RabbitMan]

Darn, I thought the first 50k I make was exempt. I don't want to pay for a family of four to keep my 50k

I have a feeling that it will be more in the range of $30k for individuals.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I have a feeling that it will be more in the range of $30k for individuals.

Still a nice savings, but it should be 50k exempt across the board and I'd be all over this!

 

[anaconda]

Thanks to everyone that chimed in about the multiple post issue: jurgs01, phill4paul, Crashland, & Occam's Banana.

 

[anaconda]

Honestly not feeling the whole "family of four" deal. It's essentially penalizing people who don't want or have a large (larger) family. Seems he could have done without that part. The first $50k should be exempt regardless of how many are in your household.

Couldn't agree more. Hopefully that was just some type of loose "talking" point, or at least something Rand will "walk back" more sooner than later.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

One of the best aspects about Rand's plan is that it keeps personal, business and corporate rates all the same. A separate tax code for personal and corporate taxes is by definition corporatist in nature.