Rand's CNN debate perfomance was ok

[JK/SEA]

Tell us how you really feel

People on this board get way too offended. Here's all I'm saying.
1). Rand is right. I'm not in any way suggesting that he "CHANGE" the content of his message, as the above poster seemed to be suggesting.
2). It would be nice if Rand could convey that HE KNOWS that he's right a little more assertively.

You can disagree with that, and that's totally fine. But no need to get mad about it or offended in any way

well, i think its not really a matter of being 'offended', its more of ....who the hell are these people coming in here and trashing our guy. There are real warriors in here who would take a bullet for Ron and Rand if need be, so any 'slight' against them will be met with resistance.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Yes. But he can learn to say what he thinks without saying, 'I think,' first. He can do that.

that verbage is used to bring people over to his side of the argument... i agree that it might look weak to some people.. maybe a majority, but i also use it in my personal conversations as well...... its something i learned from ben franklin

 

[navy-vet]

Well, those of us who want to see Rand as the next POTUS, had best start praying for a miracle, because without that, it ain't gonna happen...

 

[Crashland]

Agree with the OP. Rand's debate performance was probably enough to keep his head above water, but not good enough for much else. I know Rand is passionate about these things, and he has spoken more boldly in the past (CPAC speeches, Senate floor filibuster,...etc), so I'm not sure what is holding him back. It needs to change, you won't win a primary or a general election for that matter, with a professorial attitude. His answers aren't even professorial - they are more like a student answering the professor's question, hoping for approval. I know Rand can do better than that.

 

[navy-vet]

Anyway, considering the state of things, it probably won't matter. I believe we have crossed the event horizon.

 

[Brett85]

I really don't know what more Rand can do. I thought he did about as well as he could in last night's debate. It seems to me like GOP voters are simply rejecting the message of liberty and limited government. Ever since about 2013, after ISIS formed, the GOP has become a much more pro intervention/pro big government party. I think Rand is doing all he can. It's really not his fault. It's just the current political atmosphere and the current state of the Republican Party that's not good right now.

 

[klamath]

Unfortunately, Rand needs more than just your vote klamath and most GOP voters don't see the (political) world the same way you do.

If you really want to know Rand could be the biggest baddest communicator up there and he couldn't sell nonintervention to the GOP. It is why Trump and Fiorina are leading.

 

[JK/SEA]

Well, those of us who want to see Rand as the next POTUS, had best start praying for a miracle, because without that, it ain't gonna happen...

ok...who's 2nd in line behind Rand?

 

[klamath]

I really don't know what more Rand can do. I thought he did about as well as he could in last night's debate. It seems to me like GOP voters are simply rejecting the message of liberty and limited government. Ever since about 2013, after ISIS formed, the GOP has become a much more pro intervention/pro big government party. I think Rand is doing all he can. It's really not his fault. It's just the current political atmosphere and the current state of the Republican Party that's not good right now.

Exactly. It is still a ways out and major events can change the sheeps minds just like the raise of ISIS did about being sick of wars.

 

[Brett85]

If you really want to know Rand could be the biggest baddest communicator up there and he couldn't sell nonintervention to the GOP. It is why Trump and Fiorina are leading.

That's what I'm starting to think. I don't think anyone else could really do any better than Rand is doing. Right now the GOP just wants absolutely nothing to do with liberty and limited government. The Party of 2012-2013 that seemed to be leaning back towards limited government views is now gone.

 

[acptulsa]

that verbage is used to bring people over to his side of the argument... i agree that it might look weak to some people.. maybe a majority, but i also use it in my personal conversations as well...... its something i learned from ben franklin

I don't think there's anything wrong with it either. But strange as it may seem to us, lots of people don't want to share ideas with another human when picking a politician. They want someone who will tell them how wonderful they are and stick it to the enemy, whomever that may be. They don't understand, that's why they want a Republic not a Democracy, and they want to feel whoever they pick will be decisive.

Tell them the most decisive people in the world are the biggest psychotics, however, and they'll tune you out. That is a small change that could make much more difference than it should.

I really don't know what more Rand can do. I thought he did about as well as he could in last night's debate. It seems to me like GOP voters are simply rejecting the message of liberty and limited government. Ever since about 2013, after ISIS formed, the GOP has become a much more pro intervention/pro big government party. I think Rand is doing all he can. It's really not his fault. It's just the current political atmosphere and the current state of the Republican Party that's not good right now.

It's Foxshit. I've been saying for seven years now that Fox is our, and the nation's, biggest enemy.

 

[squirl22]

Rand seemed really nervous at the beginning of the debate, but the last hour, when he got to talk more, I did not sense the nervousness at all. I agree he needs to be more to the point...more direct. He loses people in the way he presents his ideas; I think is over used, I agree, and weak. The MJ debate got mushed up; people are saying today he was supporting the legalization. Instead, they should be talking about the 10th amendment...that's what he should have emphasized....he believed in the 10th amendment and it applies to the states who have legalized mj. The point he was making about Christie and the federal government law superseding the state laws got lost, except on Christie...I think he finally got what Rand was saying about medical mj...if there was federal law outlawing it, then Christie would go after the mother giving it to her son...but it got all mushed up. I have noticed also, not just during the debate but in other circumstances, the other people get credit for saying what Rand has already said. In this instance, Carly said the same thing about the criminalization and got applause...Rand got ignored. His hair is not an issue; what about Trump's?

 

[klamath]

That's what I'm starting to think. I don't think anyone else could really do any better than Rand is doing. Right now the GOP just wants absolutely nothing to do with liberty and limited government. The Party of 2012-2013 that seemed to be leaning back towards limited government views is now gone.

They just care about being the biggest baddest warriors on the planet. Not picking fights around the world just doesn't match their idea of USA!

 

[klamath]

Rand seemed really nervous at the beginning of the debate, but the last hour, when he got to talk more, I did not sense the nervousness at all. I agree he needs to be more to the point...more direct. He loses people in the way he presents his ideas; I think is over used, I agree, and weak. The MJ debate got mushed up; people are saying today he was supporting the legalization. Instead, they should be talking about the 10th amendment...that's what he should have emphasized....he believed in the 10th amendment and it applies to the states who have legalized mj. The point he was making about Christie and the federal government law superseding the state laws got lost, except on Christie...I think he finally got what Rand was saying about medical mj...if there was federal law outlawing it, then Christie would go after the mother giving it to her son...but it got all mushed up. I have noticed also, not just during the debate but in other circumstances, the other people get credit for saying what Rand has already said. In this instance, Carly said the same thing about the criminalization and got applause...Rand got ignored. His hair is not an issue; what about Trump's?

He is a non interventionist in an interventionist party They will not tolerate that.

 

[squirl22]

He is a non interventionist in an interventionist party They will not tolerate that.

I realize I have nothing in common with the republican party...they are a bunch of blood thirsty idiots...I really hope they implode, good possibility if Trump wins the nomination as I think he is really a Dem...then there would be a chance for a new party

 

[navy-vet]

ok...who's 2nd in line behind Rand?

Like I said, I don't think it matters...
And I believe that's why (IMHO), Rand seems to lack the enthusiasm and hope. He realizes it too, and even if he were to win, there wouldn't be any thing that he could do to pull us out of that worm hole....
There's a human culling coming like none that this World has ever seen...

 

[navy-vet]

Wonder who the Central Bankers have in mind?

 

[LibertyEagle]

He is a non interventionist in an interventionist party They will not tolerate that.

That's not it. He can sell it. He has the skill to do that. But, he's coming across as too meek. Plus, he's viewed as straddling the fence on too many issues and they've had it up to their eyeballs with politicians doing that.

 

[Liberty Commentary]

I thought he delivered the message perfectly. He delivered the non-interventionist message in a way that was not harsh, but palatable. The people who like Ben "nice quiet guy" Carson will appreciate his performance.

He should only get really animated when he is telling the idiot GOP base (not Rand's base) something that they want to hear. I think his tax plan is something he should scream and yell about, especially getting rid of the payroll tax. Aside from that, I give him a solid A for this debate. B- for last debate.

By the way, the students at my campus, liberals included, aren't quite voting for Paul but they're REALLY warming up for him. He's positioned himself very well for the general election.

 

[navy-vet]

I liked Fiorina's rant about the abortion thing. Seems to me that she is the only one to actually be so genuinely repulsed by it.
I thought about the old adage about how evil flourishes when good people remain silent and do nothing...