specsaregood
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Probably by the same people too.
Rand pulled out too early
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Probably by the same people too.
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I would have liked to have seen Rand stay in another week to spread the message as long as it was not going to be a half ass effort. Otherwise people may view it as just keeping people on payroll or similar to what Brian said above.
If Rand was streaming his events live on Youtube I would have preferred Rand stayed in the race another week since I believe it would be far more effective in getting his message out. People are more likely to have access to Youtube than Periscope's expiring links and they would continue to be viewed longer after the events.
I think the campaign gave Twitter's Periscope too much credit which I personally saw as a disaster that continued unabated with each event. They could not even pull it off at Twitter's headquarters. Periscope is a joke and using them only helped spread Periscope's brand.
If Rand was streaming his events live on Youtube I would have preferred Rand stayed in the race another week since I believe it would be far more effective in getting his message out. People are more likely to have access to Youtube than Periscope's expiring links and they would continue to be viewed longer after the events.
I think the campaign gave Twitter's Periscope too much credit which I personally saw as a disaster that continued unabated with each event. They could not even pull it off at Twitter's headquarters. Periscope is a joke and using them only helped spread Periscope's brand.
What I hate is the vacuum. The liberty movement needs leaders. Presidential candidates are a good way of getting that type of leadership. I almost wish Amash would jump in today, not because he has a chance in hell, but because we need people making these arguments directly.
I totally get that Rand didn't want to waste people's money, and wanted to be seen being Kentucky's guy. That is very important too. But if he is going to withdraw, withdraw and burn them all down on the way out. Maybe THAT isn't his style, and maybe that was partially his problem.
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Those who are saying his finish ahead of Bush/Kasich/Christie could help him argue for his inclusion in the next debate should keep in mind that Fiorina is essentially trying to make the same argument and ABC didn't budge for her.
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"People" here, is just one person, who is clearly wrong.
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The requirements were top 3 finish in Iowa, top 5 in NH polls, or top whatever it was nationally, 5 or 6, I don't remember.
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That wasn't their criteria. Certain polls were. You know how this works, Drake. It's what they use to cut people out that they don't want on the stage. Did it to Fiorini too.
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Okay. Show the proof that he did.
Did you not read the rules to the NH debate?
1. Ted Cruz
2. Donald Trump
3. Marco Rubio
4. Ben Carson
5. Rand Paul
Those in bold qualified for the debate via the Iowa caucuses.
1. Donald Trump
2. Marco Rubio
3. John Kasich
4. Ted Cruz
5. Jeb Bush
6. Chris Christie
7. Rand Paul
8. Carly Fiorina
9. Ben Carson
The ones in bold qualified via NH polling.
1. Donald Trump
2. Ted Cruz
3. Marco Rubio
4. Ben Carson
5. Jeb Bush
6. John Kasich
7. Rand Paul
8. Carly Fiorina
Those in bold qualify via national polling.
Rand did not qualify.
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He has like 2 kids, doesn't he?
duplicity not irony
Lol, I couldn't help but have those kind of thoughts when I read the thread title.
I believe Rand would've made the debate (he finished top 5 in the only national poll conducted after Iowa, and top 5 in an average of the last five national polls), but we'll never know because Rand made the absurd decision to suspend 36 hours before the debate lineup announcement.
In doing so, Rand let everyone in the liberty movement down - the week between Iowa and NH is the campaign. It's round-the-clock coverage for a week, and it leads to the 'final four' (or three). The focus is intense. Rand's campaign, the liberty movement's de facto mouthpiece, worked hard for a year+ only to suspend on the eve of when the spotlight is brightest. This week's exposure would've been the payoff for all that investment.
You're damn right he pulled out too early, and we all are suffering from blue balls as a result.
In doing so, Rand let everyone in the liberty movement down - the week between Iowa and NH is the campaign. It's round-the-clock coverage for a week, and it leads to the 'final four' (or three). The focus is intense. Rand's campaign, the liberty movement's de facto mouthpiece, worked hard for a year+ only to suspend on the eve of when the spotlight is brightest. This week's exposure would've been the payoff for all that investment.
You're damn right he pulled out too early, and we all are suffering from blue balls as a result.
I still don't understand why he would drop out just before NH....he could have stuck it out that long. He put altogether too much credence in the debates...this last one sounded like all they did was attack each other. He might have gotten in or even if not he could have done a rally, a YouTube, another online town hall...I don't think the debate would have mattered for him. I can't wrap my head around what he did...other than his ego could not swallow the fact that "the youth" did not vote for him...or something like that. I also believe the least he could have done is send out an email to his supporters, at least those who contributed financially to his campaign, explaining why he did this. I has left me with a bit of hesitation in ever thinking of supporting him for anything ever again...I'm not a quitter.
He has three.Lol, I couldn't help but have those kind of thoughts when I read the thread title.
I don 't think it was ego driven. If the youth had made the shocking appearance that he had a strong campaign then he would have stayed. But they didn't. His campaign in IA was on track with the polls, and he landed where the polls placed him.
I think Mitch had him on somewhat of a short leash regarding his KY campaign. Mitch was fundraising for his Senate campaign and none too pleased if Rand was tilting at windmills on the national stage and then dropped the ball in KY.
I think Mitch called.
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Do you have any basis or proof of this? Otherwise, it's just conjecture.
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