Rand Paul: We Must Demilitarize the Police

[surf]

wonderful. well done. way to be a bold man, Rand.

 

[acptulsa]

Perfect. Way to, as the chess players say, seize the initiative!

MSNBC is going to have a heart attack... A tea party conservatarian leading the way on issues of race, civil liberties, and police brutality???? What ever will the liberals do??

The liberals will do what they always do--follow. The only question is, will they follow the good shepherd or will they continue to be fooled by that wolf?

 

[thoughtomator]

look who is following Rand's lead:

Claire McCaskill: ‘We need to demilitarize’

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/ferguson-claire-mccaskill-demilitarize-110013.html

 

[alucard13mm]

All liberals talk about is gays and race...

 

[jct74]

"Rand Paul" and "We Must Demilitarize the Police" are both trending on twitter right now.

 

[jtap]

This is well worth getting behind. Great stuff from Rand.

 

[twomp]

All liberals talk about is gays and race...

Same thing with the evangelicals. Good on Rand for putting this out. Paul SIXTEEN!!!

 

[presence]

Until you give me justice, you can't tell me about obeying or disobeying the law.

Dick Gregory 1965

from the TIME video at the link in OP.

 

[francisco]

My god, he nailed it...

My God, an actual Leader!

It's been a real long time since we've seen one of those (who had an actual shot at getting elected). Everyone here knows why I had to add the last qualifier clause.

 

[francisco]

"Rand Paul" and "We Must Demilitarize the Police" are both trending on twitter right now.

This is well worth getting behind. Great stuff from Rand.

It's really happening, guys and gals. Gotta get behind it in a big way, now.

 

[francisco]

here the facebook link, at least vote up some positive comments if you don't have time to post your own.

https://www.facebook.com/RandPaul/posts/10152436787001107

Rand posted this on his FB and could use some supportive comments. The usual bootlicking police defenders are out in full force claiming the police are not militarized at all and then there are others who claim they love the fact that police are militarized because they like being protected. Wtf! I hate people.

Done.

 

[menciusmoldbug]

Who Curb-Stomped Officer Friendly?

 

[devil21]

Who Curb-Stomped Officer Friendly?

Wow.

You can dance around this point all you like, but in cold light, there is no evading it permanently. Automatic rifles, APCs, tanks, gas, drones, helicopters, and ceramic plate armor are all necessary to maintain order in a society that is disorderly, culturally chaotic, and ridden by internal political conflict. Tyranny is the natural end point of the choices that Americans have made, and it ought not to be celebrated. Commanding the police to disarm while also demanding that they continue their impossible missions on behalf of the state is just as ill-fated a proposal.

Ill not argue the point made in the article that general apathy and ignorance has led to some of the country's ills, but that statement above cancels out any other logical points made. Not one mention is made that it is the gov't itself, through its' controller's intentional deceptions, corruption and urging on of general apathy, that is responsible for this situation in the first place. That article reeks of Hegelian Dialectic. "You asked for it, you got it!" Um no I did not. I did not ask for unenforced borders. I did not ask for insane foreign policy that leads to terrorism (9/11 oddities notwithstanding). I did not ask for a war on drugs. I did not ask for any of these things and most Americans, I believe, did not either. It was sold to them as solutions to problems the gov't created.

To end the tyranny, you must go after the original causes: chiefly, that the country is no longer governable as a single unit.

No. To end tyranny you remove the people responsible for it.

 

[jct74]

LOL

Rand Paul Stole The Idea To Demilitarize The Police From Democrats

By: Jason Easley and Sarah Jones
Thursday, August, 14th, 2014, 5:44 pm


Noted plagiarist Sen. Rand Paul wrote in an editorial today about the need to demilitarize the police. However, this wasn’t Paul’s own idea. Democratic Rep. Hank Johnson first wrote about his legislation in March.

...

When the situation in Ferguson, MO erupted, Rand Paul picked up Rep. Johnson’s idea and made it his own. Rep. Johnson announced today that he will be introducing his legislation. As Johnson pointed out in his article, the problem is that the Pentagon loves to give the surplus equipment to local law enforcement because it allows them to ask for more new equipment in next year’s budget.

The problem isn’t the Republicans’ favorite vague boogeyman “big government.” The real issue is their favorite form of welfare in disguise, which is military spending. Notice that Sen. Paul never once called out the Military Industrial Complex that is fueling this program. He can’t risk alienating Republican primary voters by looking like he is against a big red state job creator.

Democrats and liberals should not fall for Rand Paul’s act. The next original idea Sen. Paul has will be his first. The reason so many on the left like the idea of demilitarizing the police is because it first came from one of their own, Rep. Hank Johnson.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/14/rand-paul-stole-idea-demilitarize-police-democrats.html

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Spin: The growing web Troll industry
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/spin-1/the-growing-web-troll-industry.html

Those aren't trolls. People really believe that.

 

[devil21]

Those aren't trolls. People really believe that.

Much more complicated than that and depends on how far one wants to drill down to define shilling. Is a "paid troll/shill" only a person that is specifically paid to push PR agendas? Or are paid shills also people that work in those industries that are advocating for their paychecks to keep coming, regardless of the impact of their industry (MIC, for example) on others.

 

[Cleaner44]

More of this is a good thing...

Democratic Congressman Will Introduce Police Demilitarization Bill
Rep. Hank Johnson pivots off Ferguson to introduce the “Stop Militarizing Law Enforcement Act.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/d...police-demilitarizatio?utm_term=rbaj8n#a4sm5v

 

[satchelmcqueen]

good by rand!!

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Much more complicated than that and depends on how far one wants to drill down to define shilling. Is a "paid troll/shill" only a person that is specifically paid to push PR agendas? Or are paid shills also people that work in those industries that are advocating for their paychecks to keep coming, regardless of the impact of their industry (MIC, for example) on others.

You can define troll or shill however you want. The majority of people who live in America feel that way, and they voice their opinion on social media.

 

[Crashland]

I guess I agree with Rand here? He is not very clear what he actually supports or doesn't support. Where do you draw the line between the gear that might be appropriate for riot/mob control, vs. "military" gear which is supposedly inappropriate? What equipment specifically is being abused by police? How should the police have handled situations x, y, and z differently than they actually did in reality? Rand is cleverly at least engaging in the conversation about the situation in MO but I'm not seeing a whole lot of substance in his op ed.