Rand Paul to GOP: Our voter ID push is “offending people”

[Southron]

There are in North Carolina.

For or against voter ID?

 

[milgram]

Axelrod introduced the issue by questioning Republican efforts to restrict early voting. The local GOP tried to do that in my state too -- not a fan of this transparently selfish tactic at all.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

For or against voter ID?

Both. The leftward half of the left will crawl through broken glass to vote against anybody who supports it, and the rightward half of the right will swim through sulfuric acid to vote against anybody who opposes it.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Axelrod introduced the issue by questioning Republican efforts to restrict early voting. The local GOP tried to do that in my state too -- not a fan of this transparently selfish tactic at all.

Be careful picking up propaganda. NC changed Early Voting by running it for fewer days, but requiring more total hours. The goal was to give MORE opportunity to early vote, including opening up weekends to early voting, while spending less money overall to do so. The dramatic increase in early voting turnout demonstrates that we were in fact successful in our intent. But if you listen to the left propaganda, we 'restricted early voting.'

 

[GunnyFreedom]

And I'll bet you dollars to donuts that Axelrod was complaining about North Carolina specifically, even if he never mentioned our State. We've been one of his pet issues since 2011.

 

[Superfly]

Rand will be crushed in a debate by Santorum? How?

I think what he meant to say was Santorum....

...is frothy at the mouth thinking about debating Rand.

 

[TaftFan]

I really can't stress enough how stupid it was of him to say this. The question is, will he try to "clarify"? He had better.

 

[invisible]

I'm very opposed to voter id laws being strengthened. While I very much so detest voter fraud, the issue at hand here is real id, not voter id. The only id I have is an expired out of state driver's license. I refuse to be subjected to real id, so can't get a new one, or even a non-driver id without having to give up my biometrics, which I refuse to do. Luckily, when both registering to vote when I moved here, and in voting in the recent municipal elections, no one ever bothered to ask me for an id. Even so, both times I came prepared with plenty of proof that I lived where my registration indicated, even though none of it was an "id". So if I suddenly can't vote without a "valid id", then how am I supposed to vote for people who would repeal real id, so that I can finally get a "valid id" again?

 

[RandallFan]

McCain was humbled by the backlash against his amnesty in 2007. When will Rand Paul get humbled?

McCain was a war hero with a warchest.

 

[Brett85]

Axelrod introduced the issue by questioning Republican efforts to restrict early voting. The local GOP tried to do that in my state too -- not a fan of this transparently selfish tactic at all.

So should there be no restrictions on early voting at all? Should people be allowed to vote 8 months before the election? Should people be allowed to vote during the middle of the night? Or on Sundays?

 

[Brett85]

Rand will be crushed in a debate by Santorum? How?

I think that what he was saying is that with these kind of statements, Rand is making Santorum look like a conservative. Rand is moving far to the left on a number of different issues, and it's mind boggling why he's choosing to do that.

 

[RandallFan]

Santorum gave the Democrats ammo on wages. Romney did too.

Now Rand is treading into that area.

Does Rand have the same position as Alison Grimes on voter ID? Where is Mitch McConnell and establishment Kentucky GOP on this?

 

[Brett85]

I believe that it's extremely offensive and repulsive for anyone to suggest that blacks aren't smart enough and aren't capable of providing a photo ID at the polling booth. Opposing voter ID laws for that reason is an extremely racist position.

 

[RandallFan]

For instance, Johnson said he favored requiring people to show photo identification before voting in order to deter potential vote fraud. Grimes said such a rule would be a barrier to voting for minorities, senior citizens and others less likely to have such identification.

http://www.kentucky.com/2011/11/09/1951946/democrat-alison-lundergan-grimes.html

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[juleswin]

I believe that it's extremely offensive and repulsive for anyone to suggest that blacks aren't smart enough and aren't capable of providing a photo ID at the polling booth. Opposing voter ID laws for that reason is an extremely racist position.

Yup, its the soft bigotry of lowered expectation at play here. The democrats believe that without their protect against voter ID laws, blacks mainly will be restricted from voting. The only people that believe this garbage are democratic party activities and my guess is Rand. I always wonder why the democrats and the activities getting all riled up about voter ID laws never make any serious attempt to help these people get ID when the elections are over, they seem to only care when it "affects" them getting the votes.

Also the slippery solve argument is bull, we already require ID to board an aeroplane, getting welfare, apply for social security benefits etc etc all which are sufficient enough to bring about national ID or real ID. He has to be very careful of this because the people that are passionate against the voter ID laws will never ever voter for him and the people that are for it who are likely to vote for him may be turned off now.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Also the slippery solve argument is bull, we already require ID to board an aeroplane, getting welfare, apply for social security benefits etc etc all which are sufficient enough to bring about national ID or real ID.

Is it constitutional to demand ID to vote for representation? Yes or no will suffice.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Is it constitutional to demand ID to vote for representation? Yes or no will suffice.

Of course it is Constitutional. There is no section in the US Constitution that prohibits the States from requiring identification to vote.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

I'll raise your government issued IDs with government implanted RFDs. Really, IDs can be forged so easily. If we want to make sure to end voter fraud we should do it right. And, as long as 51% agree, its just, right?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Of course it is Constitutional. There is no section in the US Constitution that prohibits the States from requiring identification to vote.

But there are states who say that it is unconstitutional. Right? I think Arkansas is the most recent to point out voter disfranchisement by way of a violation of state constitution?

 

[georgiaboy]

purple fingers for the win!